AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #6

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  1. BRRI

    BRRI Well-Known Member

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    There were other financial judgements as well in that time period. 5 in total. Equity loan for $13,000 taken May 2017
     
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  2. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    So do news articles. Different guy.
     
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  3. IceIce9

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    I would think the dog would have been barking like crazy! Surprised it wasn’t shot.

    Wonder if the “a lot of yelling” can be analyzed and deciphered to see if any words can be extracted. If the yelling involved names of persons it could indicate the murderer knew the victims, or at least knew who they were.
     
  4. Le Singe

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    one thing i really wish we knew was, when they say yelling do they mean two or more people yelling back and forth or is it possible its just one (maybe gravely injured) person yelling.
     
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    I took disconnected to mean that the family gave up their landline at some point in the past, unrelated to this incident, and no one ever recycled the number.
     
  6. NervousNellie

    NervousNellie Well-Known Member

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    Or the dog was hiding? I have two dogs; one would greet someone kicking in the door excitedly, the other would run to her crate.
     
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    can someone verify Rice Lake Chronotype.. somewhere on there the is the entire Dispatcher log I cannot seem to find it but I have seen copies of it. I am also trying to do it from my phone.
     
  8. IceIce9

    IceIce9 Well-Known Member

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    What would a $13,000 equity loan from a year and a half ago have to do with two murders and a little girl missing?

    I am not arguing with you just respectfully asking, because my brain doesn’t make a connection.
     
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  9. Confusion

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    I've decided on a theory for now, and will probably stick with it until it becomes too obvious that I'm wrong for me to ignore the facts. I'm going on the assumption (I know, bad idea) that the neighbor had misread her clock and it was actually just a few minutes.

    Today I think that someone was upset with the father over something. In that area it could be anything from owing money to insulting a sister to stealing a favorite fishing spot, so I'm not going to even try to guess what it was. Whatever it was had him extremely upset, and he went to the house to have it out with him. When he knocked/rang, the father (sorry, I can't remember all the initials) started to open the door and said something derogatory about him being there. The guy kicked the door open, knocking him off balance, and shot him.

    That could have been the end of it, but the mother comes in the room before he's gone. She turns and runs, and he chases her and shoots her. Jayme comes out of her room to see what's going on just as her mother calls 911. She freaks out about what's happened and he yells at her to be quiet. Mom died before she could say anything, but he hears the dispatcher trying to get a response from her and disables the phone. Because he knows LE will probably be there soon, he grabs Jayme to use as a hostage in case he doesn't get away in time.

    Unfortunately, if that were the case, it would mean that she is probably dead by now; if she's not, she probably will be soon when he realizes that he can't just let her go. Not sure I can say it's y opinion since I'm not sure if I believe any of it, but it's my story for now.
     
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    SeekingJana,

    IMO #1 Theory: the Perp has been fantasizing about JLC for quite some time and is obsessed. I think he planned this, brought gun(s) blazing, brought some sort of cords or ties, maybe more equipment. I think he imagined different scenarios or obstacles in the house, and tried to prepare for them. I believe the parents had no chance of survival, he intended to kill them, and he intended to abduct JLC.

    Do you believe he planned this for some period of time?
     
  11. MassGuy

    MassGuy The Monsters Aren’t The Ones Beneath The Bed

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    It seems to be that there was some sort of commotion, and not a lone person yelling (as I originally thought).
     
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    Yes, and although he took a huge risk taking her from her bedroom, he was very careful not to wake anyone in the house. Her sister was right there in the same room, although she later remembered him being there. In this case, the perp is both brazen and violent, with no regard for human life. This makes it all the more frightening. Jmo
     
  13. Wrenny

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    Not a yorkie, from the pictures. A little dog though. Pictures look like a shih tzu.
     
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    why you say that? maybe they have info only killers know and want to protect jayme. im going to give them benefit of the doubt.
     
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    <modsnip - quoted post removed>
    Phew! Anyway, at least I can possibly safely suggest he's been married before.
    Barron County Case Number 1998FA000083 <modsnip - full name> vs James Michael Closs
     
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    I have these pop-ups if I use Google Chrome but not with Samsung Internet, so you might try a different search engine if possible.
     
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    If it was disconnected by the wall or wires were cut the phone would still ring for the caller. If it was disconnected because they didn't pay their bill or canceled their phone service then the caller would hear a message like, "This number is no longer in service". So when the log states the landline was disconnected I am thinking they mean the number was no longer in service otherwise it seems like they would have said the landline just rang.
     
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    Curious as to what made the 911 operator note possible suicide during that “yelling” call? Is that protocol when they can’t decipher what’s going on? IMO he/she heard more than what they logged.
     
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    So in catching up and reading about the kicked in door it occurs to me that here in Indianapolis we call this crime home invasion. It's actually become fairly common here. Some thugs, two or more will violently break in to a (random usually) home during the night and completely traumatize and abuse the occupants, often brutally beating them and assaulting them for hours. Sometimes they are murdered, sometimes they are left in critical condition, etc. Occasionally they arrest people and it's usually young, adults in their teens and 20s that are the perpetrators. Recall Amanda Blackburn's heinous Indianapolis home invasion for reference.

    general info: Home invasion - Wikipedia
     
  20. MsBetsy

    MsBetsy Well-Known Member

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    Yes, when he refers to a disturbance, or commotion or whichever word he used, it made me think there was a significant fight or struggle. The description of the crime scene makes me think that as well. Trails of blood, or at least a tremendous amount of it. Jmo
     
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