AMBER ALERT WI - Jayme Closs, 13, Barron, missing after parents found shot to death, 15 Oct 2018 *endangered* #8

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  1. cluciano63

    cluciano63 Well-Known Member

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    Rewards do not USUALLY help, imo...just increase work for LE. No one with real info is innocent, imo. And others won’t know where she is. There is lots of media so she is getting lots of attention. JMO
     
  2. crhedBngr

    crhedBngr Well-Known Member

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    FWIW, the same two inmates who were booked into the Barron County Jail on 10/17 with no charge listed are still incarcerated. Initials are MAC and DJP.
     
  3. Bluebythec

    Bluebythec Well-Known Member

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    I forgot to mention the reason I said Jayme was drinking a cold soda was they said the cell phone plus evidence led them to know tha Jayme was there the whole time. I'm thinking the soda was in her room still cold.
     
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  4. SharonNeedles

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    The first mention of a possible suicide was from the first officer at the scene who saw the father’s body. This was an initial impression only. The officer at that point would have only known that he was responding to an open line 911 call and possible domestic disturbance. Upon seeing a body with an apparent gunshot wound and nobody else around he described it as a possible suicide attempt in his communications to dispatch.

    To be clear - nobody thought this was a possible suicide before the officers arrived, and obviously nobody thought it was a possible suicide as the crime scene unfolded.
     
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  5. crhedBngr

    crhedBngr Well-Known Member

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    Link, please? I don't recall reading this anywhere.
     
  6. Inthedetails

    Inthedetails Well-Known Member

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    Okay, this is another thought:

    The objective was to abduct and keep Jayme and also kill the parents because the parents would be able to figure out who abducted their daughter. In other words, the abductor was known to the parents. So, in order to not get caught, the parents had to be killed (as opposed to killed simply because they were home at the time).

    justanothertheorytoconsider, jmo, speculation
     
  7. thesnowflakesparkles

    thesnowflakesparkles Well-Known Member

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    <modsnip - quoted post has been removed>

    The community is on edge and in shock. I have lived in major cities and moved to this area about five years ago. While this would not have been out of character for some of those places, it is absolutely unheard of here. A lot of the speculation has no basis in fact and is fear motivated.

    That being said, I have heard meth involvement (by the perpetrator, not the Closs family), random, sex offender, online predator, etc. Basically every theory seen here. They family was well liked as I noted before which is why this is so strange. They were the average, everyday household in these parts.

    <modsnip - not victim friendly> even before the Sheriff stated she is innocent, the locals I had spoken with described her the same way-shy, introverted, incapable of something so horrific. I am 100% convinced she is the unfortunate victim and I am frustrated she hasn't been found yet.

    Sorry if this isn't very helpful, I don't really have any new theories and I haven't even made up my mind what I think happened yet. I love hearing all of your theories, though!
     
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  8. SandyQLS

    SandyQLS may your life be filled with avocados

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    Most casino games are against the house. But there are poker games against other players that are set aside in a raised floor area inside a corral. Those games seem to be subject to extra intensive security measures. Could James have been playing and another player became enraged about even a smallish loss, followed him home like in a road rage incident?

    Do they allow card rooms in WI that are not the actual casino? Those places seem to be magnets for crime.

    Sports bars? I can remember reading in the news (not in WI) about two surprise shootings at nice sports bars over trivial matters. Did James like to go watch the games somewhere?
     
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  9. margarita25

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    Night there be any jurisdictional aspects considering this is a Native American casino—-iirc from Savannah’s case there are independent organizations, etc (sorry not explaining myself well).
     
  10. Lizzack1

    Lizzack1 Active Member

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    My online dating profile literally says “you know how when you’re 31, single, live alone, and are listening to the police scanner at night...”
     
  11. margarita25

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    Hi the snowflakesparkles,

    Gosh do I know hst horrible feeling about a community being an edge, I have experienced that in a horrific local abduction and murder case. The feelings of fear, etc are indescribable and my heart really goes out to all of you. Just know that LE is doing their absolute best and has amazing resources at hand. Thank you for being with us and for helping with a map, etc.
     
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  12. Marli61

    Marli61 Well-Known Member

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    Respectfully, do you have a link for this or is this your own speculation? If it's the latter I highly doubt a 13 yr old girl would be up at that time of night drinking a soda. JMO
     
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    Earnest Hargon was in was in his 40s when he drove 100 miles in a corvette to his cousin's house. Earnest was adopted so not blood related. He killed Michael Hargon at his front door. Shot his wife Rebecca. He put Michael's body in the corvette seats, sitting on his feet. Piled injured Rebecca and their 4 year old son on top of Michael, drove 100 miles and buried them. Rebecca was strangled. The child strangled with a strap. He would never have been caught except he told his wife what he did over Valentine's dinner at a restaurant. She turned him in 2 weeks later. Motive: revenge for being cut out of a will. Earnest was a truck driver, addicted to methamphetamine. His wife was a veterinarian.

    Note that there was no planning. He took a corvette. Yet had he not told his wife, he probably would have gotten away with this crime. House was left empty with blood everywhere. He threw the gun out his car window somewhere on that 100 mile drive. This is what I think they had volunteers looking for in Jayme's case.
     
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  14. EJB123456

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    I wish we knew more about the timeline. I have similarly aged children and there is basically zero chance they’d be awake at midnight or 12:30am on a school night. And we’ve had the doorbell ring, I’ve screamed at sporting events on TV, a locked interior door has been kicked open and nothing will wake them up.

    ETA: That’s not to say an extended situation would not eventually wake her up. I’m just thinking out loud. If all of this happened close to midnight - she’d be in pajamas with no shoes and have to get out of bed from a deep sleep. Certainly not hanging out drinking pop in her room.
     
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    Did dad work or frequent the casino? Cameras everywhere in there.

    I have thought dad might have been coming in rather than inside answering the door!
     
  16. margarita25

    margarita25 Well-Known Member

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    Thank you for your input.

    Would this be classified more under Family Annhilator?
     
  17. SharonNeedles

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    Do you realize what a tightly regulated business a casino is? Every employee goes through an extensive background investigation to get a gaming license and any subsequent criminal activity can get that license immediately revoked. If I get pulled over for a DUI tonight I’ll lose my license before I go to work tomorrow - even before a guilty verdict. Not to mention the fact that I’m on camera from the minute I arrive on property until I leave. If I pick my nose it’s on camera.
     
  18. Inthedetails

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    You were clear, imo, that you were suggesting a theory.

    jmo
     
  19. SJ16321

    SJ16321 Well-Known Member

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    I think it's something similar although I wouldn't say we can guess down to such small details with the limited evidence we have. I'd never rule anything out until the evidence does but I'm convinced the perp went there for Jayme. None of the other theories make sense with them taking her.

    The perp must know her fairly well or seen her around a lot and be absolutely obsessed with her. If this is just your standard paedophile then I'm sure there's plenty of other little 13 year old girls to grab in the local area who wouldn't require the effort this did. You'd also expect the majority of paedophiles to wait and seize an opportunity, rather than brazenly grab her from her own home.

    I think the perp went there to get Jayme and the homicides happened because A) the perp panicked as you've mentioned in your post or B) he was so obsessed with Jayme that nothing was going to stop him taking her.
     
  20. Jethro4WS

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    No clues, no sightings in search for Jayme Closs
     
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