Found Deceased WI - Kodie Dutcher, 10, may be suicidal, Baraboo, 6 July 2020

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  1. evilwise

    evilwise Well-Known Member

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    I agree that nearly all child suicides are impulsive. It's not that uncommon for them especially girls to poison themselves either but for one to go hide in a cornfield so she wouldn't be found and saved seems a click above normal to me. Not saying it necessarily means anything but it makes the case noteworthy.
     
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  2. Hazelnutty

    Hazelnutty Kindness Matters

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    Absolutely heartbreaking
     
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  3. airportwoman

    airportwoman Well-Known Member

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    Her mother may have been in denial, or didn't know what signs she needed to look for.

    I also noticed that no paternal relatives are named in Kodie's obituary. That says a lot to me.
     
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  4. PeriwinkleE

    PeriwinkleE Well-Known Member

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    My heart hurts for this girl. I hope her family holds her close.
     
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  5. TristanP

    TristanP Well-Known Member

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    Pharmacologic suicide means suicide by drugs. As opposed to cutting her wrists or hanging herself, etc.

    All drugs are “action” drugs. That the whole point. They have an action that occurs in the body to provide a treatment.
     
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  6. LunaInvidia

    LunaInvidia Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, I think people are hung up on the fact that she left the house, and it could have just been that she did impulsively decide that she wanted to die, based on some trigger, and she may have been enough of a sensitive child to know finding her body would be an extra heartbreak for her mother and wanted to at least avoid that, without being able to think in more long term of preventing the grief at all.
     
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  7. TristanP

    TristanP Well-Known Member

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    Her mother said she had no idea whatsoever that anything was wrong.
     
  8. realanastasia

    realanastasia Well-Known Member

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    Your first statement is extremely unkind, speculating that the mother, who by all accounts--so far at least--was very close with her daughter, was "in denial" or just plain unaware "what signs she needed to look for."

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  9. Tippy Lynn

    Tippy Lynn Well-Known Member

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    My heart aches for this little girl and her loved ones.
     
  10. Peppery

    Peppery Well-Known Member

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    Another thing to consider is we don’t know when Kodie ingested the drugs. She may have been heavily under the influence by the time she left the apartment, not thinking about her shoes or where she was going. She was probably half the weight of an average adult for whom most rx drugs are prescribed. Two or three might have been enough to cause her death. We just don’t know.

    Re: mental illness in children-the fact that we even have pediatric psychiatric facilities shows that children are suffering. From personal experience, it’s extremely difficult to find placement in one of these facilities and my child (at age 12) was admitted nearly 3 hours away. The youngest child on her wing was 5. We were in an adjoining room when he was admitted and he had to be sedated by 2 large security men and carried to his room. The majority of kids in her unit were 10-13 and had all attempted suicide in some manner.

    Kodie was about to turn 11 in a few weeks. Depending on school system, she either just completed 5th or 6th grade. That’s usually the end of elementary or beginning of middle school, prime bullying time.
    RIP sweet girl
     
  11. bears10

    bears10 Well-Known Member

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    and wasn’t her mom due home soon?
     
  12. squareandrabbet

    squareandrabbet Well-Known Member

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    But not surprising.

    We’ve taken kids who have already worked through separation anxiety to matriculate, and put them in a situation where they now have to go through it all over again.
     
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    mpnola Well-Known Member

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    Rest easy, sweet child. I hate that your pain was so deep that you thought leaving was the only way out. You are loved.
     
  14. cindizzle

    cindizzle Well-Known Member

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    When I was ten, I ingested a large handful of otc pain relievers in an attempt to overdose. I recall feeling like my head was spinning and needing to get air. I went outside and walked up and down my street. Perhaps this little girl left her house without shoes on for a similar reason.
     
  15. GoneGoldfishin'

    GoneGoldfishin' Well-Known Member

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    I'm so sorry you went through that, but very happy that you survived. <3 ((hugs))
     
  16. bevyofbagels

    bevyofbagels Active Member

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    I just feel so sad when I think about all the ways Kodie's life could have gone had she managed to crawl out from that dark place.

    I struggled with depression between ages 12-17, and again two years ago, though I was thankfully never suicidal. This last time I had the advantage of knowing that it gets better, and that gave me the strength to reach out. When you're young and in the middle of it you don't know that it gets better, you can't see the light at the end. And you don't know that you're loved and worthy. Let's all resolve to remind kids when we see them struggling.
     
  17. shinimeggie

    shinimeggie Well-Known Member

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    I wanted to say to everyone on this board who had or has mental health problems and/or suicide attempts --

    You are loved, you are safe, and many people (including myself) are glad you're here

    I know that's random words from a stranger on some message board, and I know that's not worth a lot. But I really hope that it at least gives you comfort that random people from all around can care for each other, and really, truly mean that they're glad you survived your worst days, your worst attempts to end those days, and want you to be here (on this planet) in the future.
     
  18. crhedBngr

    crhedBngr Attempting to Keep Calm and Carry On.

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    Your words are worth a lot!

    Thank you for posting this.
     
  19. PhoebeTries

    PhoebeTries Well-Known Member

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    I agree, shinimeggie, your words really touched me. Everyone can make a difference, even for a stranger :)
     
  20. bittle

    bittle Active Member

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    Am I the only one that wonders if the mother's "fairly new" relationship played into this tragedy, in the WORST way?
     
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