Will the Long Island Serial Killer ever be caught?

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Will the Long Island Serial Killer ever be caught?

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  2. NO.

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  3. NOT SURE.

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  1. deedee21

    deedee21 Well-Known Member

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    How did the girl in question get home?
     
  2. hawkshaw

    hawkshaw Well-Known Member

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    Postmortem lividity. Also known as livor mortis, this is caused by the pooling and settling of blood within the blood vessels from the effect of gravity. It appears as a purple discoloration of the skin. During life, the pumping action of the heart maintains a constant flow of blood through the numerous vessels of the body. Upon death, this pumping action ceases, and the blood pools within the dependent portions of the body. The location of livor mortis is determined by the position of the body after death. If the body is lying face down, livor will develop on the front of the body rather than on the back. The observation of lividity is important for two reasons:

    It gives the investigator a general idea how long the body has been dead;
    It tells you definitely whether or not the body was moved after death.

    For example, if lividity is observed on the back of the body found lying face down, you can be sure that the body had originally been on its back. Lividity begins about 30 minutes after death with full development after 3 to 4 hours and becomes "fixed" in 8 to 10 hours. Fixed means that the livor has settled in one position for more than 8 hours and can no longer be significantly shifted by changing the position of the body. However, parts of the body that remain in direct contact with an object, such as the floor, a piece of pipe or wood, or even the weapon, will remain white, as the pressure will not allow the blood to settle into the dependent capillaries.
     
  3. hawkshaw

    hawkshaw Well-Known Member

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    He probably took her home. I believe we know who carried out the transportation part of it. This guy picked the gals up and dropped them off. It doesn't mean ALL gals were picked up and dropped off by the same person.
     
  4. maddalena1

    maddalena1 New Member

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    Read the book ultimate evil

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  5. Sam67crow

    Sam67crow Verified Expert DNA Analyst

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    qq, is there DNA from any of the LISK victims? I formerly worked with Suffolk Co. crime lab and curious as to where the science is on this case.
     
  6. deedee21

    deedee21 Well-Known Member

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    Remains were in the elements anywhere from 3 months to several yrs. Wouldnt the DNA be degraded?
     
  7. Sam67crow

    Sam67crow Verified Expert DNA Analyst

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    Not necessarily, I have gotten DNA from cases that are decades old, it all depends on the circumstances.
     
  8. Al Ka

    Al Ka Well-Known Member

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    Suffolk LE does not have too good raport with press so not much information has been released to public. I mean even FBI has been fobbed off by them to stay away. So no idea, but they probably do have lots of evidence. FBI is now working on it, but again, not too much was released yet.
     
  9. Al Ka

    Al Ka Well-Known Member

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    By the way, this was released yesterday:

    BREAKING: Judge demands transcript of 911 call in Long Island Serial Killer investigation

    In what may turn out to be a significant and certainly a long-awaited development, a Long Island judge has ordered the Suffolk County Police Department to hand over a transcript of the 911 call made by an escort whose mysterious disappearance led to the discovery of the Long Island Serial Killer’s dumping ground.
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    Judge Sanford Berland ordered Suffolk County police officials to “produce the reasons why they can’t release the tapes
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    Berland also reportedly ordered them to provide the judge with a full transcript of the 911 call for him to review.

    The attorney said Tuesday was the first time a judge has demanded a transcript of the call. The county has been given a deadline of March 19

    http://www.crimeonline.com/2018/03/...rial-killer-investigation-911-call-exclusive/
     
  10. Sam67crow

    Sam67crow Verified Expert DNA Analyst

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    What a shame! They were lovely to work with, but I was working FOR them. I suppose they draw in ranks when the outside comes pounding on their door. Just seems like a waste when cooperation amongst LE is a really important tool in solving larger crimes.


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  11. hawkshaw

    hawkshaw Well-Known Member

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    It's interesting that LI's leading newspaper NEWSDAY hasn't printed a word about the 911 tapes. This is why Blog Boards such as this are important.
     
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    LE works together? The question is how they work together and for what purposes. A lot of clues even in Newsday to suggest otherwise.
     
  13. Sam67crow

    Sam67crow Verified Expert DNA Analyst

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    What is the rationale for not releasing the tapes?


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  14. Sam67crow

    Sam67crow Verified Expert DNA Analyst

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    I know I am not a popular opinion on LE [emoji846], but I have had positive experiences in my 10 years in almost all cases. Not to say they are faultless, but I still give them the benefit of the doubt for a good chunk of personal experience working with them from the outside.


    (I’m new don’t crunch me for stupid questions)
     
  15. hawkshaw

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    I think many appreciate your experiences with SCPD. I think for the large part SCPD cops are as good as they get. But is a lot more complicated than that.

    You have to understand what happened in the Loeb case to understand what goes on in the minds of a police officer/police department.
     
  16. deedee21

    deedee21 Well-Known Member

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    LE claims as a RULE they dont release 911 tapes.
    That rule provides a smokescreen for the tapes they really dont want the public to hear. IMO.
     
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    Agreed Hawk.. well said. This should be big news locally.

    Where are you Newsday/News12LI?
     
  18. Sam67crow

    Sam67crow Verified Expert DNA Analyst

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    Don’t release to judges? That seems odd... I get not releasing them to the media to a degree.


    (I’m new don’t crunch me for stupid questions)
     
  19. Hatfield

    Hatfield Well-Known Member

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    Good news.

    Hope the judge gets the audio too. If I was the judge I would demand both audio and transcripts. Never know if someone is trying to coverup for someone that may have did this crime.
     
  20. deedee21

    deedee21 Well-Known Member

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    They were ordered to hand over the tapes over a yr ago. They appealed.
    Correct me if Im wrong folks. Didnt a Det say he will never hand over the tapes?
     

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