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Will the Long Island Serial Killer ever be caught?

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Will the Long Island Serial Killer ever be caught?

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  2. NO.

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  3. NOT SURE.

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  1. hawkshaw

    hawkshaw Well-Known Member

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    At this point does it make any difference.....who is going to believe it anyway. As soon as they come up with a good suspect the forces of evil get them off the suspect list faster than you can say Jack Robinson. It is really Condition Hopeless.
     
  2. hawkshaw

    hawkshaw Well-Known Member

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    ps://www.nytimes.com/1987/02/02/nyregion/li-trial-is-scrutinized-two-years-after-verdict.html
     
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    SecretAgentMan New Member

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    Yeah, you're probably right. I'm sure they had viable suspects & let them go. This is the world we live in, its who you know & the payoffs & favors you can do for each other..
     
  4. hawkshaw

    hawkshaw Well-Known Member

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    It really has nothing to do with payoffs -per se, and favors. It has to do with opening up a can of worms no one wants opened. In Suffolk county a lot of people trade in information about each other.

    Another very viable suspect just popped up on the scene. He is one of thousands that can fit like a glove as a suspect. He is very much part of the system. The good news is the feds have him because the case was never picked up by Spota. Might be a couple of judges involved.

    NOTHING CHANGES IN SUFFOLK COUNTY unless you call things getting worse not a change.

    You folks should GOOGLE: David Trager and add on something like the criminal justice system infected. That will bring you to several stories going back to as early as 1987. He was a US attorney, EDNY, Chairman of the NYS SIC, and a federal judge. Read his opinions on all the usual suspects, including the FBI.
     
  5. NY Ranger Fan

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    If we're talking about the same HF, he's been dead since January of 2011. Do the math backwards, could be plausible as heck...
     
  6. SecretAgentMan

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    Has any DNA evidence been found from any of the bags the Gilgo 4 women were put in from the suspect? Or is it something the feds are keeping quiet about........then again, I wonder if Suffolk county had any evidence destroyed since there were cover ups.
     
  7. deedee21

    deedee21 Well-Known Member

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    DNA was probably degraded and destroyed.
    They must have some type of forensics. Hopefully.
     
  8. Breaking Bad

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    Hackett worked for Suffolk County -
    it's even worse
    he worked with the coppers.

    1+1 = ZERO in this case.

    Hackett was a sworn member of the Suffolk County Police Dept
    years - 2000 and 2001.

    He had a uniform and a badge.
    hmmmmmmmmmm
     
  9. SecretAgentMan

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    Is this a conspiracy of guys covering up for a known killer to them? What a cesspool Suffolk County.........if the feds never get the killer, it definitely won't happen from within SC police dept.
     
  10. harvgr81

    harvgr81 Well-Known Member

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    I found this article dated Jan 29 1987

    https://www.nytimes.com/1987/01/29/nyregion/suffolk-police-are-described-as-deficient.html

    In the first day of public hearings on charges of corruption and mismanagement in criminal-justice agencies here, the commission chairman, David G. Trager, also said the problems in the department were ''shamefully tolerated by the District Attorney's office.''
    ''The rationalization that the ends justify the means seems to be infecting portions of Suffolk's criminal-justice system,'' Mr. Trager said. ''Unchecked, it may undermine the county's entire justice system.''
     
  11. SecretAgentMan

    SecretAgentMan New Member

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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost...reaking-into-home-swiping-womans-panties/amp/


    Judge arrested for breaking into home, swiping woman’s panties





    It’s first-degree panty larceny.

    A Long Island judge got caught with his robes down Thursday after he broke into a neighbor’s house and took off in possession of a pair of women’s panties, a report said.

    Suffolk County Judge Robert Cicale snuck into the East Islip home at around 9 a.m. but fled once he realized a 23-year-old women was inside, according to Newsday.

    The woman called 911 and gave them a description of Cicale.

    Cops then discovered the judge outside the home and with the undies on his person, the paper said.

    “He was found with . . . female undergarments. We don’t know if these were the proceeds from the burglary today or a previous break-in,” Acting Commissioner Stuart Cameron told Newsday.

    Cicale was charged with second-degree burglary.
     
  12. hawkshaw

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    My information is it is a lot worse than that and might come out in court tomorrow, I can only can go on what I heard and if it is true we have to ask why did it take so long to catch him. Just what I heard.
     
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    LE was not sure if garments were from a previous breakin? Does that mean he was wearing them when arrested?
     
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    hawkshaw Well-Known Member

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    The one consistent thread with older and experienced SCPD cops is : The worse you are the higher you go in the PD. That is not to say Cameron is such a cop, but I heard it too often to be ignored.
     
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    Your link has a better detailed article, & here it is:



    By Zachary R. Dowdy and Michael O’Keeffe



    Updated March 29, 2018 8:22 PM
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    A Suffolk District Court judge was arrested Thursday and charged with burglary, after Suffolk police said he entered a neighbor’s home in East Islip without permission.

    Robert Cicale, 49, of Donna Place, is scheduled to be arraigned Friday in the same kind of court where he presides, police said. He was arrested at about 9 a.m. after he entered a neighbor’s home on Donna Place and then ran away after realizing someone was inside the residence, police said.

    He is charged with second-degree burglary and was being held overnight at the Third Precinct before arraignment in First District Court in Central Islip.



    It was unclear Thursday evening if he had an attorney.

    Acting Police Commissioner Stuart Cameron said a 23-year-old female was at the home alone when she heard a noise and saw a man in the house. When police responded to her 911 call, they found a man outside who matched the description she gave and who later was identified as Cicale, Cameron said.

    Police found female underpants in Cicale’s possession, but it was unclear whether the underwear was stolen Thursday, Cameron said.

    “He was found with . . . female undergarments. We don’t know if these were the proceeds from the burglary today or a previous break-in,” Cameron said in an interview Thursday.

    It was unclear whether the judge knew the woman at the house, he said.



    Cicale was elected in 2015 on the Republican, Conservative, Green, Independence and Reform party lines. He also served as Islip Town attorney and worked for the Legal Aid Society, which represents indigent defendants.

    A spokesman for the state Office of Court Administration, Lucian Chalfen, said in an email: “We will be addressing the judge’s status in the morning. He will be arraigned by a Nassau County district court judge who will be sitting in Central Islip.”



    Chris Brocato, president of the Suffolk County Criminal Bar Association, said, “He has a reputation not only as a good judge but as a good human being, too.”

    He said the judge was “universally loved” by prosecutors and defense attorneys, adding “This is a very nice individual, a very compassionate individual.”

    “When you knew you had to go to D-52 [his courtroom], you knew you were going to be treated fairly,” Brocato said.
     
  17. hawkshaw

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    I guess the good news is Jimmy Burke is in jail and this poor fellow couldn't be blackmailed to do the bidding of Spota's criminal enterprise.
     
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    I'm assuming he had the panties in.his pocket. IMO, any man breaking into or just walking in thru an unlocked door to steal a woman's panties is sick in.the head.
     
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    Hawk, you ever hear of Russell Williams, a rapist & killer that was a Colonel in the Canadian military that was a decorated military pilot who had flown Canadian Forces VIP aircraft for dignitaries such as Queen Elizabeth II, Prince Philip, and the Governor General and Prime Minister of Canada.

    He had broken into like 82 women's homes & stolen lingerie, panties & bras. Then he moved onto sexually assaulting 3 women, taking & killing one before getting caught.

    A lot of these stories start with breaking in & stealing women's panties/lingerie, then moving to sexual assault & then murder.

    I wonder if he just started down on this road, or was at it for a while......he's 49 years old, so not young, but not too old either.
     
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    The new article says the panties were worn, here's a new link from an article today.


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost...of-stealing-dirty-panties-heads-to-court/amp/



    The Long Island judge who cops say broke into a neighbor’s home and was later found with a pair of the women’s worn underwear was mum Friday morning as he was walked from an area police station in handcuffs.

    Suffolk County District Judge Robert Cicale, 49, was escorted out of the Suffolk County Police Department’s 3rd Precinct in Bayshore by two detectives just before 8 a.m.



    Cicale, wearing a gray Ralph Lauren polo, dark jeans and blue plastic shoe covers over his feet, said nothing to reporters as he was led out of the front of the precinct stationhouse and put in the back of a waiting black detective’s car.

    Cops say a 23-year-old East Islip woman was home alone Thursday morning when she heard a noise and then saw a man who ran off.

    The startled woman called 911 and gave a description of the suspect.

    Cicale, a married father of three who matched that description, was arrested near the home and with the stolen “soiled female undergarments” on his person, authorities said.

    He was charged with second-degree burglary and was awaiting arraignment Friday.
     

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