detectivewannabe
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Back to the list...Phil Hartman's wife
I dont think clara premeditated it either, betty did. She was a nut, and still is..Jules said:I don't think it's quite fair to lump Clara in with Betty (I know you're not doing that - just stating that they are entirely different situations). Betty was a bey-otch for a long time and did some really messed up stuff. Clara had one instance where she snapped.
While I would have liked to have seen Clara get a bit lighter sentence (vehicular homicide) as I don't feel her crime was premeditated, I believe the jury did the right thing. I don't believe Clara went there to run him over and kill him. I think her rage had taken over for those few short minutes and she couldn't control herself. I do not think she is a cold-blooded murderer. However, had they given her a lighter sentence, there would be plenty more situations just like hers in the news.
michelle said:I dont think clara premeditated it either, betty did. She was a nut, and still is..
:laugh: LOL...Oh man i haven't heard that one, that is freaking funny!!Jules said:Agreed. She's another whose cheese has slid off her cracker.
michelle said::laugh: LOL...Oh man i haven't heard that one, that is freaking funny!!
michelle said::laugh: LOL...Oh man i haven't heard that one, that is freaking funny!!
NewMom2003 said:I saw her write it a week or so ago. It's my favorite "Julesism".
NewMom2003 said:And yes, Betty was off her rocker and I do believe Clara just snapped. If she had just run over him the one time, I could go for vehicular homicide, but she ran over him 3 times with his daughter in the car!!!!!
kellideister said:I had not commented earlier, because quite honestly I was floored with the initial post. Anyway, statistics prove that far more women are murdered by their male partners than men are murdered by their female partners. Yes, women do abuse. Yes, women do kill their husbands. However, the scale is not balanced as some have suggested. It is also a fact that men use physical violence; whereas women will use violence that is not physical. However, I don't think it should be insinuated that women are more 'cunning.' This insinutes that the females crime is worse than the males crime and that is not the case. Both are equally tragic. On my website, I list all deaths and abuse incidents that I hear about, male or female. This is because I know that both are victims of domestic violence. However, it is not on an equal level.
When sharing statistics, it is probably best to share those that are most recent. One of the statistics I list is from 1993. I have chosen that one to coincide with the initial post.
Just my thoughts.
Wasnt Sandy Murphy aquitted?Pepper said:Back to the list:
Sandy Murphy (live-in girlfriend) killed Ted Binion, casino owner
Jean Harris killed Dr. Herman Tarnower (Scarlsdale Diet author)
Claudine Longet killed Spider Sabich
I think, in this day and age, when an autopsy is done they automatically also do a toxicology. Therefore, that would rule out any deaths that are wrongly classified. Many are now performed using the toxicology tests, so if they were indeed poisoned, it would show up in the tests the labs run. I don't believe, personally, that women 'get away with' murder any more than men do. There are both men and women that kill people and 'hide' it.Pepper said:Often in these cases, especially if the victim is past the age of 40, death is deemed to be the result of natural causes, especially if the victim has a medical history of heart disease.My point is that I believe many more females than males "get away with murder" because of the methods they choose. So maybe they commit the crime more often than the statistics would lead us to believe.
About your friend you no longer socialize with; hopefully her hubby won't go out on her!NewMom2003 said:As far as I'm concerned her sentence was way too light. She only got something like 20 years. IMO, she should have life in prison. I understand her rage, but to murder him???? No way.
I remember the day the verdict came in. We were having dinner with friends and one of the wives said she was sad that Clara was convicted at all. This woman was almost in tears over it. She said it was David's fault that he was dead because he was having an affair and he deserved what Clara did to him. I almost came out of my chair at her because I had never heard something so profoundly stupid come out of her mouth. My husband literally held my legs on my chair with his hands under the table. He could tell I was about to make a scene. Needless to say we don't socialize with this couple anymore. To this day she believes Clara was wrongly convicted. :doh:
I do feel sorry for Clara's children and her step-daughter because they have lost their parents, but this was Clara's doing and she must pay the consequences.