Discussion in 'Located Persons Discussion' started by PommyMommy, Sep 12, 2021.
Agreed, very plausible.
The moment I saw him swinging the Jackery around I instantly doubted he could be a true woodsman. It looked like a beer commercial.
Not if that's exactly the reason why someone was going bonkers and losing it. It seems to be counterproductive. What was she supposed to do without her phone and keys. Walk around without any form of security? When you're already in distress? When you already suffer from anxiety and he knows it? Maybe that would have calmed HIM down but it certainly didn't sound like it was her chosen way to calm down, it only made things worse.
Maybe that’s why a trail app showed either her or his phone in Puerto Rico? Can’t remember which WSer caught that many threads back…
I am not a criminologist, but would they congregate like that and set up a processing tent anywhere near where the remains were found? If that is a crime scene they sure are contaminating it.
If it was an "official" notice, it should be able to be verified. I have asked before, has this been confirmed?
Is that a skeleton you can see right there under the canopy?
Oh dear, poor Brian. It was HER van. He should have gone for that walk and removed himself, not her.
yeah i guess i'd just think you could whip up some texts while going to the bathroom, brushing her teeth, before falling asleep, etc.......... like he'd have to be mega controlling (which no doubt he is) to be looming over her shoulder 24/7 watching her send every text message........... which is probably why she used snapchat to talk to her friend, so the messages would disappear.
My point was just that in a situation like that it is completely believable and understandable to want to lock himself in the van the way he explained it to the police. It being her van is of no consequence in that specific situation.
Agreed, everyone has a persona they put on for the "stage" of social reality - classic sociological reassoning. IMO he exhibited anti-social traits on the basis of his alleged NEET lifestyle and controlling nature combined with further alleged psychological dysfunction (as alleged by GP friend in her interview).
Except he knows she is never coming home.
August 27: Gabby texts Mom and Snapchat-texts friend that she is heading to Yellowstone
August 29: Gabby doesn’t answer call from friend about plans at Yellowstone National Park.
I think this is the most relevant aspect of this timeline. That meeting might have been what triggered the fatal fight. That friend claimed Brian was jealous & controlling whenever they got together and even went as far as stealing her ID and making her delete a tracking app (so her friend can’t locate her). Brian may have believed Gabby would try to leave with the friend. She may have even said it in a fight. That threat may have been what set Brian over the edge or led to him being so hostile and paranoid that another violent fight broke out and caused her death via strangulation.
If a person is asleep, or their face is available, their phone can be unlocked with facial recognition whether or not they're alive/aware of it
Also, was there any evidence that BL was the one that actually left the vehicle there?
It is incredibly sad. I get the feeling GP downplayed any troubles she had in that relationship. She took on all the blame in the one video we’ve seen. She was also trying hard to establish an online SM influence, depicting a happy-go-lucky, beautiful young couple, traveling together in some amazing places. Revealing to anyone that their relationship was not ideal does not fit into that narrative.
I was in a controlling relationship when I was her age. Everyone loved him, and initially, I did too. When I started seeing the signs of abuse (it was all verbal and manipulation), I tried speaking to a few friends but no one believed me. We got into an argument one evening (at MY apartment) and he would not leave so I left. On foot. At night. I walked to a friend’s house that was about 4 or 5 miles away. He showed up. Drove his truck up into the yard, right up to the front door. When my friend wouldn’t open the door, he kicked it down and came inside. I ran for the phone but he grabbed it out of my hand, yanked the cord out of the wall (showing my age here), then wrapped the cord around my neck and tried to strangle me.
thankfully, the neighbor called the police as soon as he had driven the truck into the yard and arrived in time.
I guess I’m sharing that because this is really what drew me into this case. That could have been me. I wish so badly that it didn’t have to happen to Gabby. She deserves so much better.
LE has more information about their GP and BL locations that they are telling us. So they must have conclusive evidence that they were no where near the area when the Moab couple was killed.
I understand being bugged b h something. Maybe you have any insight as to why he was hitchhiking on the 29? What would be the reason for that?
Actually, around my neck of the woods it's not uncommon to arrange for someone to retrieve a car and pick a person up at another point along the trail/river etc.. For instance, he could have said-- if I'm not back by 7pm it means I'm camping-- please get the car and I'll call you for a ride when I'm ready. JMO
Frankly, if someone is crawling through a window OVER ME to gain access to their vehicle, I'm getting out immediately.
And sure, what we know is just *his* explanation to LE. Given what I've observed of his abusive behavior toward her regarding the issue of the van, this is another in a long line of controlling behavior. He could have gotten out, handed her the keys, said chill out, & gone to walk around without grievous bodily injury to himself. imo.