Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #24

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  1. MLaps

    MLaps Well-Known Member

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    Bloodhound can pick up a days old human scent at a long distance. German Shepherds are one of the most common breeds employed in scent detection work and are praised for their keen sense of smell, focus, and determination. German Shepherds are also used in search and rescue efforts not just for cadaver.

    A bit of info on cadaver dogs - Cadaver dogs are able to tell the difference between human remains and animal remains, which means they’ll know right away if the scent they’re picking up is from a person or from decomposing wildlife - they're trained to differentiate between types of decomposing flesh. Because they’re trained to pick up scents both on the ground and in the air, cadaver dogs can identify crime scenes even if the body has since been moved. Depending on the circumstances, they may also be able to lead search teams to where the body was relocated to. They can identify hundreds of different scents related to decomposition.
     
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    Surely there must be cctv in the area of his home where they can see BL and if he actually went to the reserve or not?
     
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    If (big if), BL is in the Carlton Reserve he wouldn't be able to sustain this long without a decent amount of food and water. Not to mention, he didn't appear to have an ounce of body fat. I keep thinking of the show "Alone". The participants on that show are all hardcore and even they have a hard time living.....I just don't see BL being that stealthy.
    moo
     
  5. ThoughtFox

    ThoughtFox Expecting the Unexpected

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    Underground caves in Florida are full of water. In fact, that swamp is mostly under water right now. If he's there, which I doubt, he is more likely up a tree than in a cave.
     
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    There's been a lot of questions about the video from the helicopter from when they discovered Gabby's body. I don't believe that part of the video exists anywhere. It was from KSL5 and I was watching on facebook while they had a helicopter flying over the area. It went over where there was a huddle of people, the tent hadn't been put up yet. Then it started to make a bigger circle, headed toward the road and then started over to where the edge of the stream or river was. That's when you could see a body, in a clear area near the water. The newscaster immediately said something like "should we be filming this?" and then the body was out of frame. It was not buried, and I noticed later, when I went back to see if what I thought I saw was really a body, it was gone. I haven't seen it since, it's not any of the photos or videos that are being put out there on news stations or twitter or youtube. My guess it, it's been deleted. So if you're looking for a body in any of the current videos, it's not there, it's off camera of where they're setting up the tent.
     
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    I have a question regarding the 911 caller and the witness statement. Is it the same person? The written statement leaves out such important information. I do also recall during the traffic stop that LE mentioned possibly 2 witnesses. Just confused and wondering if any of you amazing people know.

    https://twitter.com/BrianEntin/status/1440670342637232131
     
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    Possibly and maybe that's why they are back here. They definitely aren't going to tell us that though Im guessing.
     
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    @TTF14 - only because I think he would have been found by now. Also I think that after he killed Gabby and went through a freak-out, then after a few days of yoga :p, he set out on a deliberate course. So I think if he were going to kill himself, he would have done it by now. That said, I do think if/when he is cornered by police, he is more likely to commit suicide rather than being taken into custody. Total SWAG on my part.
     
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    Based on comments I've seen here and there, I think some of our members were watching the livestream when Gabby's remains were accidentally shown. To those people - was she on the side of the creek, near where the cross made of rocks was placed or was she more toward the trees, where the tent was erected?
     
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    Tealgrove #Where Is Summer? #Gannon Is My Hero

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    Not necessarily. I know of Golden Retrievers and Labrador Retrievers that are trained cadaver dogs.

    We have several VI's here that I hope weigh in.

    The blood hounds are great for tracking. They put their noses to the ground and their big floppy ears help pull the scent in. They get used a lot for tracking lost people and following a scent.

    Retrievers and the Sporting Breeds tend to be air scenters. Their noses go up and they get scent off the wind. They will be working a pattern and then all of a sudden their heads go up and you can see them scenting. They may go off the pattern at that point and find something. I've seen spaniels as well as Retrievers do this kind of work.
     
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    If there is, we're not going to know about it since it's a FBI lead investigation. They're keeping this extremely tight lipped. For one, he's still out there somewhere - maybe dead, who knows - but if he's alive, he might be following this closely somehow to see if they're getting close to finding him. Any leak from the FBI would have him getting ready for his next move. I believe JB on WFLA talked about this yesterday.
     
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    I think he’s dead.. moo
     
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    I had my GSD mix in SAR training for a while (before she blew out her knee and had to drop out). Our trainer (who is head of one of the leading SAR groups in this exact area of Florida where BL's family lives) told us that literally any dog can excel at any of the different types of searches. During the time I was in training, the best student dog in our group was a little lapdog type (a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, I think, or one of that type of breed).

    But for cadaver searches, some dogs get really freaked out by the scent of human remains. I saw some of the dogs in our training group just shut down when we worked with cadaver scents. My own dog wasn't bothered by it at all, and in fact she seemed more interested in finding remains than in finding live people, so she probably would have ended up being used more in cadaver searches.

    So it's really more a function of what an individual dog is good at.
     
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    If there is, we're not going to know about it since it's a FBI lead investigation. They're keeping this extremely tight lipped. For one, he's still out there somewhere - maybe dead, who knows - but if he's alive, he might be following this closely somehow to see if they're getting close to finding him. Any leak from the FBI would have him getting ready for his next move. I believe JB on WFLA talked about
    And beagles too!
     
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    There was a lot of discussion about that when they removed the item. Many posters here felt it was not a gun case. People had many different opinions about the item.

    jmo
     
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    They didn't need to go to NY to see the sights. They were from NY. They'd met there in highschool (Long Island, IIRC). I think it was her mom who'd said, they went to NY to attend a family event before taking off on their trip. You might be able to stretch the length of the trip back in time to when they left Florida, but I don't think that would add up to the several additional months he added to it when speaking to police. They didn't spend an extra 2-3 months getting from FL to NY and staying in NY; highly unlikely, as I see it.
     
  19. CrimeDawg123

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    This - I agree. I'm guessing NYC, with that accent and all. He'd stand out anywhere else in the south.
     
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    This is the part that bugs me. I truly cannot fathom his parents being (from what we can discern and speculate) this composed if they are seriously worried about their son committing suicide. As someone who once ran away from my parents to attempt to take my own life, I can't imagine how his parents can seem so unconcerned. My parents were calling everyone they could think of when they realized something was off––the Laundries just seem a little too composed for parents of a child they believe to be in crisis, MOO.
     
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