Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #34

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  1. Cecelia

    Cecelia Well-Known Member

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    I would really like to think...really, I hope this is all it was...that he was "bro'ing up" BL in an effort to make BL reveal whether or how abusive he may really have been. "Women, they're all crazy you-know-whats, amirite? Sometimes you need to give 'em a slap...right my man?" That kind of thing. After all, these police officers know they are wearing body cameras. They have to know there's always a chance the public will see what they are doing up close.

    I really hope that's all it was.
     
  2. penguinface

    penguinface Well-Known Member

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    Maybe they had backup drives back home, or, having only just started out making videos longer than short insta posts, had not got round to/not thought of the importance of backups yet?
     
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  3. mitzy

    mitzy Well-Known Member

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    5TB is plenty of space for a road trip. I don’t see why Gabby would need more than one external hard drive for a trip like that, even with video and photos she took. We don’t even know if she shot in raw or not and that affects file size.

    I don’t know… I’m trying not to get offended by what people say online, but there’s a tone I’m sensing with “serious photographers do this and that” that I don’t like. I don’t think it’s fair to Gabby, who IMO took her newfound career path seriously, to compare her to people who have been doing this for years.

    Professional photographers drag whole suitcases of gear on shoots… and they can also only carry a camera or two. Depending on the project.

    As a photographer I have several external drives, but I only ever use one at a time. IMO Gabby’s 5TB of space was more than enough for her needs on the road and maybe in general, since she was a beginner (no one buys a truckload of equipment when starting out).

    MOO

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  4. wanderingalong

    wanderingalong New Member

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    Evidence is my thought; but I’m thinking he’d have a sense of what types of interactions she’d gotten on film. And if there’s anything remotely incriminating (I’m talking about small verbal spats, but enough that it looks bad), he’d grab the drive and trash it ASAP. Unless he deleted the files and (wrongly) assumed that would be enough. MOO.
     
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  5. Mike in WNY

    Mike in WNY Well-Known Member

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    Also not to be rude or insensitive, but fact is there's big money in this story. Clicks = $$$. It's the world in which we live... and that reality should always be in mind. I'd be interested to see what the rating and share of publicized programming is for the last week or so... and going into next week.
     
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    There is really no reason to have two people's names on a vehicle title. I've been married for nine years and we have never put both of our names on titles to any of the vehicles we have owned...
     
  7. dtowndetective411

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    Great points!! I appreciate the different options. I plan on writing sort of a profile for each scenario and what those behaviors would mean and what that would look like. I think it’s safe to assume it was a very complicated emotional situation for him (if he is not a total antisocial sociopath) so his behaviors can definitely be judged from a wide variety of scenarios and I want to take the time to go through each scenario carefully and present it, taking into account the different possibilities for how it played out and what that would feel like and therefore what his actions would look like. Basically, how A would lead to B would lead to C and now D, for each different A/B/C/D. “If this, then that” throwing all my psych training and case research into the mix ;)
     
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  8. dkryder

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    i thought i read or listened to a news report earlier this week that stated LE had brought in a portable cell tower to aid in communications but i can't find any news article at the moment. anyway, i'll speculate that they did. one benefit other than aid LE is that it due the power of the signal it forces cellphone devices in the area to connect so over the course of a few hours any device within a certain radius is connected to the portable cell. then it's possible to map the radius. it's also possible to exclude known friendly devices like any LE that are within the area from the map. so it's possible to have a map of any unknown devices in pretty much real time. so if LE blocked off the nature reserve area from public traffic in a certain radius in theory only LE devices should be in the area. if you eliminate known friendlies then there should be no devices in the blocked off area. i'm guessing some unknowns showed up at some point early on. my thinking is dogs convinced them the first day or so that brian went into the reserve then because of water lost the track but something else keeps them there. not saying the signal is continuous or always in same location. i also think it's possible they want him just give up in one way or another. just some speculation and MOO.
     
  9. passionflower

    passionflower Just 1 tip to find a killer

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    And no wedding date set? Ring? Did they just say they were engaged to look better
     
  10. Michaellan

    Michaellan Well-Known Member

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    But if his story will be that he left her alone but alive, he will say he had no reason to believe she was dead when he used.
     
  11. Mom24

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    And by the 911 call we know Brian hit Gabby. I'm sure this wasn't the first time, since he hit her in public in plain view of others. I do think Brian had begun to hate her. The statements he made about her to LE were incredibly hard to hear, and they're not statements someone makes when they love someone. These were not people who had not spent inordinate amounts of time together before. They lived together for some time in a home with his parents. If that isn't a pressure cooker, I don't know what is. I'd rather be homeless with my husband than live in our in-law's house. Ugh. And we've all been in pressure cooker situations with people we love and haven't murdered them.

    Had Brian alerted authorities, even after coming home, it would have shown some level of remorse. But he hasn't. He refused to even furnish any information as to where they last were. He used his murdered fiance's credit/debit cards to fund his trip home and then gave himself a financial cushion. He went on the run. He involved his parents in the mess. At this point he's shown that Gabby is nothing more than an obstacle in his life, a piece of garbage that means nothing to him. That's not a sentiment that comes from a momentary break, it's who he is.
     
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    Following this case but I haven't posted until now. There's just too little evidence to ascertain 1) if BL remains alive, 2) his location, 3) full timeline, 4) role of parents in BL's disappearance. I have only speculation based on my own judgment as a scientist who works with (non-forensic) evidence.

    So, MOO, on an aspect of the first question only:

    If he is alive, it's only because he's had help. For example: He is staying with a family friend. Or, if he's on his own, it's because he has adequate resources for now and the weather remains mild. For example: he's staying an abandoned structure in TN (not GA) such as a barn in/near the AT with access to fresh water and some dried food supplies that he brought. As I write this, I think it sounds completely absurd. And it isn't sustainable by any measure. It's just my best guess for the "alive, on his own" scenario, which is advanced more often in posts than "he is dead." I strongly suspect he doesn't have the ability to survive for long on his own w/out both warm shelter and food drops. Because he can't survive for long on his own does not imply he's dead. There isn't enough evidence to come to any conclusion.

    Like everyone else, I wait for more evidence and information.
     
  13. EmmieA

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    I agree with everything you said here. IMO it could be just as simple as the culmination of stress of the trip, coupled with one last fight or comment that he didn’t like. GP crying frequently tells me this wasn’t the dream trip either of them envisioned.
     
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    If you're married, that's one thing. But, if you're not, your partner may not be able to take title if you pass away. Laws of intestacy succession vary by state, but some states don't recognize common law marriages and the remaining partner may be shut out of the vehicles.
     
  15. JayWill

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    And as the woman in that story shows, the law does not care what she 'meant' to do.
     
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    MOO bottling up rage as a characteristic is not "retaliating" when the person "snaps," they are proactively laying in wait for the right circumstances to "justify" outbursts of violence.

    Murderers think of themselves as victims.
     
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    Some have wondered who owned the Nissan Sentra that Gabby and Brian drove around the west for their prior trip, in 2020. According to her dad, JP, he leased the Sentra for her and Brian to drive.

    Also, I don't believe the Mustang is Brian's. Their friend Rose said the van was their only vehicle.
    Missing “Van Life” Woman’s Father Speaks Out: The Dr. Phil Interview
     
  18. Devil In The Details

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    This is not indicative of her not wanting to share. He very well may had a driving record which made obtaining insurance cost prohibitive.
     
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    Playing devil's advocate here. Let's say BL is either apprehended or turns himself in. A well known defense attorney replaces his current, ineffective council. They go to court and the new story is...
    Brian and Gabby, as they had done so many times before, kissed and made up. He decides to go off on his own to hunt berries or camera shots and leaves Gabby near the van to update the website. Upon his return, Gabby is nowhere to be seen, so he peers through the thicket to see if she's exploring the creek bed. Suddenly, he sees two men menacing and beating her. He panics, throws on his backpack and beats it out of there. He's so terrified that he offers $200 to the first campers he meets to get him the hell out of dodge. He's conflicted, he doesn't know if she needs help, she's dead, whatever. Once he reaches Jackson, he develops a conscience, decides to hitch a ride back to the vicinity of the van, stealthily works his way back to the crime scene and finds the assailants gone and Gabby dead. He KNOWS the Moab PD has him and her together battling. He KNOWS he's the last identifiable person to be seen with her. He panics further, leaves her dead body out in the open, grabs the van and books for Florida where he withholds this info from his parents - only relating that something terrifying happened out on the road and he might have either been followed or is in mortal danger. They spot him $5K, drive him to parts unknown and tell him to lose himself.
    Johnny Cochran once said, "Sometimes, the one who wins is the one with the best narrative."

    Reasonable doubt? Does Brian walk?
     
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    There are unfortunately corrupt attorneys out there.
     
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