Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #45

[ringbearer]

"Are you ok with letting her have the van"? And the next time the cop, talking to Brian, says "your" van. But it was HER van he was trying to steal. I don't know how one cop can be so wrong for 45 minutes, completely ignoring what the witness said about play fighting, BL trying to take her phone, and shutting her out. And not even mentioning that the other witness said differently.

So for 45 minutes he completely twists it all, then pulls the rabbit out of the hat "saving" her re non attempt to hurt him. All but taking the other cop by the hand.

So in a way he saved her but in the end Brian got her anyway.



There are really no words. The separation anxiety was Gabby from her van and belongings.

I asked about the ownership of the van based on this video, but the thread moves so fast and I don't think I got an answer. I wasn't following this case from the beginning and don't know where the info about the van ownership came from. Do you have a link that the van was owned by Gabby or her family?

 

[Angels Advocate]

Your reply to ringbearer triggered a possibility for me. I agree with you that it wasn't an accident. I believe he realized he was losing control over Gabby and began raging at her. Then he lost self control and it spiraled to her death. But the new thought is that, should he be alive, captured, and have to answer ~ His answer will be that he pushed her (remember that's the first thing he said in the first released body cam video) and that she 'accidentally' fell died. As in, he didn't mean to kill her ~ it was an accident. To be clear, this is not what I believe happened but it is what I imagine would be his claim.

We can take some comfort in the fact that however he killed her - it was obviously homicide - because the autopsy report shows that. So he won’t likely be able to claim a simple push - something must be there showing it’s obviously murder.

 

[tiara1972]

We are following the trail laid out by Brian. You may be of the opinion there are other trails but that does not negate the trail that points to Brian as the main suspect. I am aware only POI may be discussed. I have yet to read any information from any source on any site that leads me in a different direction than Brian being the POI other than it is possible with nothing to back it up. MOO

No one has heard from Brian. He has not laid out this trail. This trail has been laid out by authorities and MSM, for us, to drive our focus only on him. And it might be correct. But we haven't had access to ANY information, from authorities or MSM, to rule out or rule in whether or not this is the case. And since he is innocent until proven guilty, and there are loads of other paths to poke around in and question, some super obvious ones that should be chased and allowed to be eliminated publicly. The curious just get curiouser about why information has been heavily redacted, shut off, minimized without explanation, etc. Just things that make you go hmmm. MOO.

 

[dtowndetective411]

Yeah, I was surprised when I saw the video since before it was released Gabby was described as "hysterical." In the report the officer wrote Gabby had gone into a "manic state" in the van, and that her statement was "inconsistent" to what Brian said, "further suggesting her confused and emotional state."

It was if he believed everything Brian told him and nothing Gabby said.

Unless he was suggesting she was the victim, I don't see why he wrote, "At no time during my investigation did Gabrielle stop crying, breathing heavily, or compose a sentence without needing to wipe away tears, wipe her nose, or rub her knees with her hands."

Your last sentence there - whewwww.
“Unless he was suggesting she was the victim” — which he wasn’t and which makes it so clear in hindsight that her emotion from the get go was mischaracterized as “crazy/manic/hysterical”

ALSO, if they all agreed it was more of a mental health crisis than a DV, then they should have offered mental health resources. They should know that a “manic state” can be serious and dangerous and she should be given help, not left alone in a van. EVEN WITH their mischaracterizations (of the situation and her emotional state), they didn’t offer her help to aide her. (BTW, I am NOT saying that she was in a manic state. I have very much close experience with that and for them to throw around that term so loosely is serious misjudgment and ignorance.)

ETA: (I agree with you @MsBetsy …any tone/emotion in my post is not in response to your post, just anger at the situation!)

 

[Jurisprudence]

I would have, too. I hope that he didn't though, because his attorney said he d never even been on that BLOCK.... jmo

But, can we just think about how horrible this would actually be if that scenario (which we know is not fact), was a reality? Just imagine if they actually called the police on their sons's GF's parents for knocking on their door - knocking because they're looking for their missing daughter. Knocking because the Laundries, who in this scenario would be the 911 callers, had been ignoring their calls and texts. That would truly be horrific IMO. Insult to injury MOO.

 

[terrypla]

Just watched the second body cam video.
It’s just heartbreaking
And scary some of the things this officer says. Not in the sense of being inappropriate…but the foreshadowing of events is eerie.

I agree. My heart broke!!! I can't imagine what how he is feeling, especially having a daughter almost GPs age.

 

[ninvestigate]

It is possible that the DNA samples from
original clothing given to LE for missing Brian search did not match with sample they took a couple of days ago or some other anomaly has occurred with samples.

They hauled so much stuff out of that house, not to mention an entire van and -- for a period of time -- his personal vehicle that IMO this is difficult to believe.

 

[ringbearer]

We can take some comfort in the fact that however he killed her - it was obviously homicide - because the autopsy report shows that. So he won’t likely be able to claim a simple push - something must be there showing it’s obviously murder.

That's what I thought. But someone posted above that a homicide COD does NOT rule out an accident. It just means that the cause of death was another person. Don't shoot the messenger!

 

[Alethea]

I get what you are saying, and I hear you. I have federal government experience myself. Which is why I find it so shocking that the FBI continues to return to the home, the "target," knowing full well that every time they do, they set off a journalistic firestorm (and increase tensions amongst the public). They also expose agents to the media, which is undesirable. The government stresses a philosophy of "getting away from the X," or the area of "action," so as to minimize risk. This is not happening with these repeat collection visits.

Which is why I am so shocked at what I am seeing, and querying for information anyone might be able to add to give context to this patchwork approach. If they need to keep getting specialized warrants to collect certain items, for example, then I'd love to learn more about this and welcome any public evidence that could support it.

The FBI doesn't care about the media. This is Florida - it happens in every Florida case for some reason.

The FBI has to act within the confines of the search warrants they obtain. Information found in Search A can be used as probable cause for a search warrant for Search B. This happens all the time.

The FBI is reviewing surveillance footage. They may see items in the footage that then become relevant to them where they need a new warrant to go to the house to collect them. They can't know during the first search what will be relevant later. So this happens a lot.

ETA: I definitely would not believe what SB is saying about each time the FBI shows up at the house. He's allowed to spin or outright lie to the press if he wants.

 

[MassGuy]

I get what you are saying, and I hear you. I have federal government experience myself. Which is why I find it so shocking that the FBI continues to return to the home, the "target," knowing full well that every time they do, they set off a journalistic firestorm (and increase tensions amongst the public). They also expose agents to the media, which is undesirable. The government stresses a philosophy of "getting away from the X," or the area of "action," so as to minimize risk. This is not happening with these repeat collection visits.

Which is why I am so shocked at what I am seeing, and querying for information anyone might be able to add to give context to this patchwork approach. If they need to keep getting specialized warrants to collect certain items, for example, then I'd love to learn more about this and welcome any public evidence that could support it.

They don't ever share any of that at this stage; that's how every case goes. So there's not going to be any "public evidence."

Their duty is to bring Gabby's killer to justice; not share case compromising information with a hungry public.

 

[4mouse]

Gabby's mother Nicole Schmidt told DailyMail.com in an exclusive interview that on September 10 she reached out to Brian and his mother Roberta Laundrie trying to reach her daughter after she had not heard from Gabby since August 25.

'I texted Brian's mom that I was trying to get in touch with Gabby. I also texted Brian. I got no replies,' Schmidt said.

'I knew something was wrong,' Schmidt said. 'I felt something was off and I needed to get her reported missing immediately'

She went to report Gabby missing later that day but police initially blew her off. The next day, she was allowed to file a report with the Suffolk County police department.

Mother of missing Gabby Petito says boyfriend and his family IGNORED her desperate texts | Daily Mail Online

So Brian DID have a phone of his own. Contrary to what he told police in Moab.

 

[PommyMommy]

I asked about the ownership of the van based on this video, but the thread moves so fast and I don't think I got an answer. I wasn't following this case from the beginning and don't know where the info about the van ownership came from. Do you have a link that the van was owned by Gabby or her family?

There are lots of them in the media thread:

Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 8/25/21, MEDIA, MAPS *NO DISCUSSION* | Page 35 (websleuths.com)

 

[SouthAussie]

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When this matter gets to court for a murder/manslaughter trial, we will see why the FBI appear to be looking at only BL for this crime.

If they are negligently ignoring other possibilities, the defense will be very quick to bring that up and then create reasonable doubt.

I think there must be some irrefutable evidence. As I personally do not believe the FBI are slackers.

imo

 

[Just Jayla]

His whole smiley demeanor just reinforced for the police officers the idea that he was a normal, easygoing guy dealing with his “crazy chick”.

It all played out like crap. Just crap.
They get a call BL is hitting her. He's driving like a bat out of hell. They must fully expect to encounter a "typical" DV situation once they get him pulled over.
Instead, she gets out crying and talking about what she did to him, then he gets out with cuts on his face and a stupid 'it's all good' grin.
They did probably think exactly what you wrote. It's so frustrating. Women who are victims of DV do fight back and decent humans do feel guilt when they have a meltdown. It's more complicated than dude bigger/dude must always bruise her to confirm real DV.
Yet I don't know what, procedurally, they could have done differently that I myself couldn't rebut with a reason why it would not have helped in the end.
Just crap.

 

[cady]

They hauled so much stuff out of that house, not to mention an entire van and -- for a period of time -- his personal vehicle that IMO this is difficult to believe.

The Mustang is registered to his father. Not his "personal" vehicle. jmo

 

[kittythehare]

They hauled so much stuff out of that house, not to mention an entire van and -- for a period of time -- his personal vehicle that IMO this is difficult to believe.

It is for me too, plus the hours they spent searching the place..
Is it possible that the original clothing given did not match with laboratory testing of whatever they took away? Original clothing given for search I mean, I know the instant (2 hr DNA) can be used but samples are usually sent to a laboratory too.
Timing may be consistent with returned lab samples?
Wrong clothes, different owner? Not Brian's clothes?

It's a wide reach from me here.

Other thing to remember is that FBI only became lead agency in the last few days...
May be conducting their own separate and new investigation of everything from the start.?

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Yeah, I was surprised when I saw the video since before it was released Gabby was described as "hysterical." In the report the officer wrote Gabby had gone into a "manic state" in the van, and that her statement was "inconsistent" to what Brian said, "further suggesting her confused and emotional state."

It was if he believed everything Brian told him and nothing Gabby said.

Unless he was suggesting she was the victim, I don't see why he wrote, "At no time during my investigation did Gabrielle stop crying, breathing heavily, or compose a sentence without needing to wipe away tears, wipe her nose, or rub her knees with her hands."

BBM

Ding ding ding ding ding!

 

[Shadowtrix]

Just watched the latest body cam video, and while Brian's standing there with those officers who were explaining to him that Gabby would be the one getting charged as she was the aggressor, as they put it, Brian immediately and nonchalantly cuts in with, "we're a team."

Sitting in the back of the squad car when the one officer's explaining to Gabby that officers' hands are tied and they'd need to separate her and Brian for the night, through tears, Gabby tells the officer, "we're a team, I'm sorry, I couldn't handle that."

To me, it's more clear than ever Brian probably drilled that notion of 'codependency' into Gabby's brain on a regular basis as a means to try and control her. JMO.

 

[ringbearer]

There are lots of them in the media thread:

Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 8/25/21, MEDIA, MAPS *NO DISCUSSION* | Page 35 (websleuths.com)

I searched that thread and see one link from the Independent saying that it was Gabby's van, without further comment. Is there anything else you know of?

 

[JayWill]

They don't ever share any of that at this stage; that's how every case goes. So there's not going to be any "public evidence."

Their duty is to bring Gabby's killer to justice; not share case compromising information with a hungry public.

Americans would have a heart attack at the British justice system, where NO info is given out until a guilty verdict is determined.