Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #62

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  1. SouthAussie

    SouthAussie Well-Known Member

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    Thanks. I am not going to pin it down that narrowly.
    I have yet to read a link - pertaining to Gabby's death - that pins it down that narrowly.


    Manual strangulation (also known as "throttling") is strangling with the hands, fingers, or other extremities and sometimes also with blunt objects, such as batons.
    Strangling - Wikipedia

    Blue listed the cause of death as "manual strangulation/throttling."
    Manual strangulation refers to the compression of the neck using one or both hands or a knee or forearm.
    Gabby Petito died by strangulation, coroner rules
     
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  2. esayer

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    sure, but if a killer like Brian were to draw, those are probably the types of drawings they would draw...as opposed to drawings of woodland animals and flowers. IMO.
     
  3. esayer

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    yep but throttling is just hands.
     
  4. SouthAussie

    SouthAussie Well-Known Member

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    My concern does not lay with lining Gabby's death up with BL's movements.
    My concern lays with reasonable doubt, presented to the jury, that another could have been involved - with that wide of a time of death.
     
  5. CharlestonGal

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    Understood. But the coroner specified: Death by manual strangulation/throttling.
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    I do agree with others on here that the scratches on Brian's face during the Moab interview were from Gabby defending herself while being strangled.

    As for previous pics with no marks on Gabby, remember that women can hide bruises with makeup and pics can be strategically taken.
     
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    I think it would take a VERY good defense attorney and a very bad prosecutor for this to cause reasonable doubt in a jury. (Reasonable is the key word here.) With that said, I totally get that concern.
     
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    Oh, I got you. I was saying that I don't think he ever considered stopping. There are a thousand different ways it could've gone down, though. We could toss plausible ideas around all day. I didn't think so before but the not more it sinks in...
     
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    Thank you! I have been trying to get my head around this.
    Could not figure out how her body could have lain there for 3 to 4 weeks undiscovered.
    Now, I wonder if there was some access from the other side of the creek?
    MOO.
     
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    The manner death inherently confirms no item was used. Throttling is very specific to hands. There is no need for clarity. It's clear on its own IMO.
     
  11. JuneRose

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    Here is my idea of what happened and the simplest is usually the best.
    I have thought and thought of what could have happened tht goes along with what we know for a fact.
    I believe that after the arguement in town at the resturant they started out for the next place they had planned on camping," due to the fact that Red White and Bethune stated that the van was parked in a way that was unusual to how someone would normally park if they were gonna camp there" I think they continued to argue after they left and it got pretty heated inside the van, so heated in fact that BL pulled the van over at the first place he saw to just get off the main road. They left he vehicle and continued fighting, at some point Gabby ran to escape BL,s since he most likely was becomming physical, she may have even yanked the keys out of the ignition to stop him from leaving her, he took off after her and in the place she was found is where he caught up to her. After the resturant arguement and then argueng with Gabby im sure he was in a complete rage. He grabbed her, strangled her, took the keys and ran back to the van and aas his anger subsided and he realized what he had done he hauled butt.........
     
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    If I am following this thread correctly though, the original post that brought this up was an article with a statement from the Palm Beach County FL state's attorney implying that prosecutors in his office were preparing to file charges. They ertainly wouldn't be involved. IMO
     
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    He strangled her.
    and he srangled her dream
    and he strangled everything he could never be
     
  14. esayer

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    I will bet one million dollars there will be no trial. He has nothing to stand on. Taking a plea will be much better for him, he doesn't stand a chance at trial IMO.
     
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    This is a page 12 map someone mentioned before if you were wondering where it was like I was. It shows how far it would be to carry or drag from the van.
     
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    I did not see any ax to grind, he was very patient with the redundant and sometimes unprofessional questions asked. I don’t disagree that he should not have said it, indirectly revealing his opinion on who killed her per the evidence he has seen. I think he was honestly answering that he wished that other deaths received attention. I don’t think he is wrong and if this ever goes to trial, which I highly doubt it ever does, the DA will be making a DV narrative every chance he gets leading up to trial. MOO
     
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    It was mentioned many threads ago that those orange spray paint splotches are the way they indicate three-dimensional source points to recreate a scene. They're not bullet holes or blood stains or even necessarily where evidence was found, but markers to indicate x and y and z axis points, if that makes sense. :)
     
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    Manual strangulation = no ligature, tools, ropes, clothing was used. Just the strength of one human upon another, by use of a part of their body (arm round neck, choke hold, kneeling on neck etc)

    Throttling = a form of manual strangulation when using just the hands on the throat.

    From this I deduce Gabby was killed by someone strangling her with their hands around her throat. :( It pains me to type that.

    MOO
     
  19. CharlestonGal

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    This is very true. I spent a couple of decades living on various military bases, which are obviously federal property, and unless a crime was committed directly against the government they were routinely turned over to the state for prosecution. Murder, child abuse, domestic assault, DUI, you name it. jmo
     
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    PrairieWind Verified Attorney

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    I don't know of any particular treatment of this area. However, there is concurrent jurisdiction. While Bridger-Teton is federal property, it is still within the the State of Wyoming, Teton County. So the State can pursue it if the feds decline.
     
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