Discussion in 'Located Persons Discussion' started by PommyMommy, Sep 12, 2021.
Good. It may take a while for results. They also need a forensic mycologist.
I think the van was there before she was killed bc the witness tells us it was. GP could have been in the back, or off somewhere with wifi working on the vlog, etc. when the witness filmed it on the 26th. I think it was initially assumed they were gone because the Victor Idaho merchant claimed to have had the conversation with them in Victor on "the 25th or 26th." MOO We know something happened that made them turn back because they were at Merry Piglets on the 27th - and not in Yellowstone or by the West Yellowstone, MT entrance to it. So whatever was happening with them, was on-going for days, maybe even weeks. JMO It wasn't a one-off, IMO.
Plus, Gabby texts her mom that day, saying "We're in Grand Teton NP" or something like that.
But I wonder if they could find a place to stay. Because they ended up delaying their trip (the one that Gabby had tried to make reservations for) in SLC, while BL goes back home.
That threw them off. Looking for campsites near Yellowstone (including GT) is a nightmare. Truly.
Today, most infants born in American hospitals are foot printed and entered into a National Data Base.
I had thought about this, too, but you articulate it way better. I think they assumed he had his pack, because it wasn't in the house, as you say, but he might have ditched it between the Tetons and home. I'm not sure his parents knew what the pack even looked like, except to say it "had a belt." Actually most packs intended for hiking have a belt. (Travel packs often have belts, too.) School book bags don't generally, but they don't go on trails, unless you're just getting into it. All this means, by any account, the Ls weren't super familiar with "his" pack.
The pack thing might be moot, anyway. He could just get a new one or buy one off Craigslist.
Great point about the clothes.
The reason I wonder if they camped there the 25th, too, is because of the Jenny Lake sighting. It would be close by.
Tipster talks about spotting Gabby Petito's van in Grand Teton National Park
Baker said it was 5 p.m. on Aug. 25, when she and her husband spotted Petito’s van in the Jenny Lake parking area.
“I’m sure of it,” Baker said. “It had the black ladder on the back and the two black rooftops on top, the two bars, and we made the comment that would be the perfect little camper van to go around in.”
Which is one reason I think it's possible they ended up in a non-parking area and camping in a non-camping location, out if view, across the creek. Even if they left for MP and came back to someone else parked in that spot, they could park anywhere off that road they could fit. Imo.
LE investigation is the key together with the autopsy IMO. The coroner is an elected official. The forensic specialists will be key, together with the witness video and accounts, as well as the paper (receipts) and digital footprint as far as one can be established, will tell the tale. JMO MOO
If I was to keep my kid out of thesuper max ….I would take him to north of Atlanta to the base of the App trail….give him a fist full of dollars and say….run……soooo. ….walking at the rate of 5-10 miles per day/dusk……..camping , hiding….staying parallel to the trail……avoiding people…..staying away from open fields…. (hey fbi, did he take the pup tent ?)……..that puts him around west virginia now…….he’s gonna hit vermont and go straight north…. using his compass….cross into Canada and be gone. He will steal food from cars along the way. Buy food from old people in small grocery stores with his hat and beard and legal mask. He can hunker down with mountain folks without internet. He will totally fit in with the Burlington Vermonters. I feel sorry for the next girl ( if hes guilty)
Is there any video from the Merry Piglets or more eyewitness accounts? The one couple where the lady reported it, said they noticed nothing unusual until they were leaving, sounded like they were asked to leave. Wonder what the event was, surely someone overheard/witnessed.
Not local LE. The lead agency is the FBI. The lead field office is FBI Denver. I would have expected the US Marshals to become involved once he was a fugitive, but they were never mentioned, and never confirmed, until now. So I'm glad to have received this confirmation. I had been joking it was time to call in Tommy Lee Jones just so we could get this guy and put this to bed. JMO MOO
Provide him with the Ghillie suit as well. He'd likely make it.
IIRC, the owner acknowledged on the restaurant's social media page that GP and BL were there and that the restaurant had been in contact with the FBI and would say nothing further. But, if I also recall correctly, there was some links many threads ago that stated there was no video from the restaurant. Someone on here will very likely be able to remember and confirm or deny. MOO JMO
I did it too for my kiddo and nieces. I keep all of the pertinent stuff along with the current year school photo in our safe. BL’s fingers would be bigger now but I assume the prints are basically the same, just bigger?
I had this same conversation with someone after the story about the van lifer who saw BL driving slowly near the spot the van was seen in without GP in sight. Someone said that if they were looking for a new spot to camp they would definitely be in the front helping search for a spot. And I offered what you just said, that maybe they had camped their their the night before and BL was going slow to relocate the spot. If so, GP could have easily been in the back getting their gear ready for setting up camp. Maybe so, maybe not.
Probably the hotel wifi....
Side note: Gosh I hated that place when I was on the AT... It all seemed so vacant, with a huge reservoir for a view. The AT shelter there has tiers. It was full that night I was there...24 people on shelves one above the other. It's called the Fontana Hilton. You have to take a shuttle to the Fontana Resort. One reason the couple might have caught attention is that there are a lot of hikers clustered right there, and they're hanging out for the night. They have time on their hands, since darkness comes early. Plenty of time to discuss what they might have seen. Hikers would also likely to be going to the Resort to buy alcohol.
But this is a really good sign if hikers are conferrin,g and the marshals are willing to listen.
And after Jenny Lake is, when I expect, they made their way to Victor, Idaho. MOO Something happened and they turned around. MOO
Do you think LE has sent up drones in the day ? Or heat seeking for him at night ? Or is that too much for this type of manhunt ?
I did my kid and my nieces. WS has me paranoid, err… proactive. I shared the link a page or two ago.