Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #74

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  1. Figuring

    Figuring Well-Known Member

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    I agree totally. I said this elsewhere, but I am agnostic about the L's knowledge/role (if any) until LE says more about that, if they ever do. However, it is very hard to understand SB's continually changing comments about very significant things, such as:

    - phone bought on 14th; then changed it to the 4th
    - BL went missing on the 14th; then changed it to the 13th
    - BL was reported missing on the 17th; now changed it to the 13th

    He could have very well never said anything about any of this to reporters, but instead he either lied or made a series of errors. It is just so hard to take his word at face value, & not because I want to demonize the L's (I don't), but because of his own words & practices. JMO
     


  2. JerseyWasHome2

    JerseyWasHome2 Well-Known Member

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    Is the 11th the day the neighbors supposedly saw him dash down a back alley between fences (when they impounded the van)? So right - how did he spend the next day? Cool, calm and collected, or was there a LOT of discussion taking place in that house...
     
  3. NCWatcher

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    BBM

    The former co-worker from the landscaping business didn't describe BL's temper as "terrible." And he didn't say he got "extremely" jealous, just that he appeared to be jealous.

    The article said:

    "He said he never witnessed Laundrie being mean or abusive to his now-deceased former fiancée, 22-year-old Gabby Petito, but he did appear to be jealous if he spotted her talking to other guys."

    "He never came across as the kind of person that would be the killing type," Michael Livingston, who said he worked with Laundrie, 23, in parts of 2017 and 2018, told Fox News Digital. "But he did have that tendency to be — I don’t wanna say the wrong thing and make him sound worse than he already is — he was kind of a guy who would get p---ed off pretty quick."

    He did say he was weird because he did yoga, had clean hands, and used the word Zen. Hmmm.

    JMO


    Brian Laundrie’s former co-worker remembers him as ‘chameleon’ and ‘weirdo’ who sometimes lost temper
     
  4. Maligned1

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    Or, perhaps he killed himself over his guilt and remorse, didn't find himself fit to live after what he'd done? It could be either way and the truth is the public will probably never know.

    I think there is plenty of room for both our interpretations.
     
  5. AdahJo

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    Right? But now he's pretty sure that the remains are BL. After less than one day.
     
  6. Coquette

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    IMO, Image #10 of the full skeletal remains with an explanation of how it happened makes sense to me adding birds and alligators.

    From the link:

    "Rapid skeletonization of remains may occur in bodies of water in tropical areas due to water temperature and carnivorous fish species. This individual reportedly went missing only a few days prior to recovery."
     
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  7. Gemmie

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    Whoa at the caption below that last pic. And it was skeletonized in only a few days! That means that BL may, or may not, have been dead a long time. It could have been as little as a few days. FL is warm so rapid skeletonization likely occurred. Swap 'carnivorous fish' in the quote below for gaters, wild cats, feral pigs, etc. I hope his parents are watching the Disney channel and staying OFF news sites, or any site that may have breaking news flashes. They don't need to be tormented like that.

    Rapid skeletonization of remains may occur in bodies of water in tropical areas due to water temperature and carnivorous fish species. This individual reportedly went missing only a few days prior to recovery.

    Source: Decomposition Changes in Bodies Recovered from Water
     
  8. housewife

    housewife Coercive Control is a form of Domestic Violence

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    It says to me Brian felt the need to alter his language when speaking with the police. And that he seemed very comfortable doing that at a moment's notice. He also felt the need to establish he and Gabby were in a loving, committed, typical relationship to the police before they asked too many questions.
     
  9. cottonweaver

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    Very interesting clip.
    So if the former Assistant D of the FBI is saying that, it wasn't me being OTT about those search protocols by LE
     
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    10ofRods Verified Anthropologist

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    Unless he went to the AT and then came back in time to die a couple of weeks ago (so as to have skeletal remains), BL has been in that preserve since Sept 13. I find this the most likely scenario. He went there to kill himself and did. Time of death will be difficult to establish, but they'll make an estimate. That dry bag may provide better evidence as to where he was for a month, through its dust, pollen, mold and mildew.

    DNA analysis will allow identification of BL even if remains are skeletal. Just one tooth is enough. The DNA in teeth lasts a long time. DNA in the bones can be reconstructed (which is how we're getting more Neanderthal DNA, even though the bones are 30,000 years old). If the skull is around, it will be immediately obvious to any biological anthropologist if it's BL, IMO, as he had some distinctive features and we get used to looking at skulls and seeing faces instead - but naturally that has to be backed up by other analysis.
     
  12. chupacabra

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    what stuff, specifically, did he have with him that is puzzling?
     
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    His backpack and the dry bag, etc. If you are planning to suicide, why would you carry that stuff with you?
     
  14. Bekind89

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    I have lived in the south all of my life and I can honestly say that I despise heat, humidity, and insects, lol.
    But in a swamp-like environment those insects buzzing in your ears, biting you relentlessly, my fear of poisonous snakes and ANY spider, yikes! I would probably come flying out of that swamp with my hands over my head begging them to arrest me, lol.
    Jmo
     
  15. Balthazar

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    I would 100% expect that the communication between FBI and NPPD was minimal. Further, we now have absolute proof that BL was exactly where the Laundries said he would be in the first place. Had the FBI and NPPD not waited 5 days to begin searching and had they searched where the Laundries said to search, BL probably would have been found the day after he went hiking and didn't return home. It seems that the NPPD was confused and following the wrong man in Tampa and I have no idea why the FBI waited to begin searching and then went to the Carlton Reserve instead of where the Laundries said to go.
     
  16. Mom24

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    My guess is that Brian wasn't there when the dogs went through that area. Brian may have trekked around a bit for a few days before dying or killing himself. It would make sense to go to a place that he knew had already been searched to hide or kill himself. It's been over 30 days since he was last seen, and bodies can skeletonize in water in as little as 3 weeks, so it's possible. It makes sense if the dogs missed him because he just wasn't there.
     
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    As he's representing his clients, and presumably being paid for his professional services, you would think that he would get the facts right first time of asking.
     
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    Brian Laundrie search: Family lawyer addresses rumors parents planted evidence in Florida swamp

    With the media watching the parents’ every move for weeks, the possibility that they could have planted evidence seems unlikely.

    "When I spoke to them Tuesday night, they said, ‘We want to go in the preserve tomorrow," Bertolino told Fox News Digital Thursday. "What do I think about that? I told them it was a great idea, and I thought we should notify law enforcement so there's no issue."

    He said he told authorities with a text message.

    "They texted me back and said, 'Thanks for the heads up,’" he said. "And as you could see, law enforcement was there on Wednesday morning."

    The parents arrived at the park shortly before 7:30 a.m. Roberta put on a red backpack stuffed full of water bottles, which were visible through the fabric. Chris got out of his red Ram truck empty-handed.

    A moment after they parked, two members of law enforcement arrived in another pickup truck and wearing hiking gear. They tailed the couple into the park as Chris looked off the trail into a handful of brushy areas and Roberta largely stuck to the beaten path.

    Roughly 30 to 45 minutes into the search, they reached an area that Bertolino said the parents previously directed investigators to examine as they looked for Brian Laundrie.

    While the parents found a white bag and another item a few yards off the trail, authorities separately found a notebook and backpack believed to have belonged to their son. They also found human remains, which have not yet been identified.

    The Laundries together stepped through a patch of brambles, toward another clearing. That’s where they found a white bag on the ground next to a dark object about 12 to 18 inches across.

    After a whispered discussion, they placed the object in the bag and picked everything up. Bertolino later told Fox News Digital that the items they found there belonged to Brian Laundrie and that the parents did not want to leave it on the ground as they went to fetch investigators due to the presence of a reporter.

    So they picked it up, made their way back toward the entrance of the park and handed the bag to an officer. The parents appeared heartbroken at the officer’s words before exiting the area.

    "Chris confirmed with me just this morning that when him and Roberta looked, I believe it was on the 14th (of September), the whole area was waist deep or higher in water," Bertolino said. "The FBI confirmed that yesterday that that area until recently had been flooded with water. When that water receded, obviously more things were accessible."
     
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    I don't believe he committed suicide either. I want proof these remains are POI BL. From what I've heard/read how it went down yesterday morning, and how the L's found items belonging to their son is beyond a miracle.
     
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