Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #75

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  1. Balthazar

    Balthazar Well-Known Member

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    I agree. There was no evading once BL was home.

    I am, however, very unhappy with how NPPD and the FBI handled surveillance of BL once he was at home. There is no way on earth he should have been able to go "hiking" without LE knowing about it and following him. Even worse, when contacted by SB that BL had not returned home that evening the FBI apparently didn't react at all, otherwise, he almost certainly could have been found the following day. Meanwhile NPPD was busy tailing some guy in Tampa. What a mess. I am extremely pro-LE, but they don't get a pass on this situation which was 100% their fault for not having BL under surveillance from the time that they knew GP was missing and that BL had driven her van back to his parents home alone. I don't even want to get started on the search for BL.
     
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  2. AdahJo

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    Exactly.
     
  3. Backhoe411

    Backhoe411 Active Member

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    He did avoid being brought to a court to be judged, I didn't expect his remains would be found at that park. But I don't know what LE knows. As for justice, I think a natural course of events took place, and if justice means you put someone in a cage for the rest of their life, I understand keeping them away from society. It is a sad story,
     
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    They didn't find the 'body'....LE did.
     
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  5. Figuring

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    No definitive evidence yet about cause or manner of death. Part of skull was found, which leads to some speculation of a gunshot. But still very unconfirmed.
     
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    I agree wholeheartedly! the one good thing from this case, other than the foundation, of course, is that it's helped shed light on the complex issue that is DV and made more ppl aware of the very complex signs and symptoms. Gabby's had a good impact on the world.
     
  7. annwn

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    Kind of defeats the point if you don't carry a mobile phone around. But the lack of moment can point at a suspect.

    Oh VPN's. While I support the use of VPN's for most users. The simple fact is that anything the FBI wants the FBI gets.

    So the easiest way to get around vpn's, is simply look for the human to fail to use them. Now lets say that you use your vpn all the time. Then, it is easy to put down a honey pot for you.

    Lets say that you always visit this website at 9:30. It is simple for most agencies to insert malicious code into your stream of this site. It infects your computer with out you knowing and tells the agency anything they want.

    There is also weakness in the code it self that the fbi has used. Personally. VPN will slow them down, but they can always get between you and your final site.
     
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  8. Claire182

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    Perfect right? gabbys law (love) Could a law like that be passed in the US? Maybe we should message her parents somehow. Clare also was strangled and her abuser/murderer committed suicide. MOO
     
  9. BCSleuth

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    That's exactly my point. They obviously had no grounds. So all the nonsense about his parents helping him evade is just nonsense.
     
  10. cottonweaver

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    Haven't watched it yet but already the timing seems off to me but....
    wouldn't the Laundries have instructed or at least given him the permission to take media bookings?
     
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  11. housewife

    housewife Coercive Control is a form of Domestic Violence

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    I stand corrected.
    I could have sworn the Petito family said they included Cassie in their frantic calls/texts.
    I guess only the phone records would confirm if Cassie's phone ever received those calls.
     
  12. Alethea

    Alethea Verified Attorney

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    Lawyers can't say no to legal process. They can instruct their clients not to answer or make incriminating statements, but if LE arrests you for theft and brings you into the office, you have to sit there even if you don't say anything.

    And I know very well when the bank charges were brought. I was the one who pulled the indictments from PACER. But there is no reason they couldn't have been brought weeks earlier since the event happened on 8/29-9/1. They just didn't get around to looking at it.
     
  13. Jurisprudence

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    Me either, Trooper. Not on the suicide, and not on the Laundries. I'm waiting until the evidence comes in. I wanna know COD and approximate date of death. Hopefully they can get this. MOO
     
  14. Floridagirl1006

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    Good question. IMO they had an idea where he may have been. Things are different when rains come in and flood things. I don’t think they were as familiar as him about the area. And he was a little distance from where he parked making it a bit more difficult. If they are like any parents like me IMO if they knew he did something to harm himself and knew exactly where he was they would have found him sooner and prevented the wildlife from having a picnic. JMO as a mom.
     
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  15. Figuring

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    You are definitely one of the good ones, Alethea!
     
  16. RickshawFan

    RickshawFan Verified Outdoor Recreation Specialist

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    Great perspective here. I'd like to toss in another that IMO is very applicable here.

    For folks who kill themselves in the wilderness, it is often difficult for survivors to know if they had a death wish or met with an accident. Leaving survivors with that kind of ambiguity may be the point. It might be super-difficult to convey to friends and family how deep your distress at life is that you felt compelled to kill yourself. But what if you had an "accident" in the mountains? They'd never know for sure whether it was suicide or accident.
    Indeed, in the case of BL, this has compounded my rage. We will never know (barring clean evidence, e.g. of a bullet hole or rope) whether BL killed himself or he fell into the swamp or he was attacked by animals. He's left his family with ALL this ambiguity, another of his messes to clean up.
     
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    I just can't get over the fact that they repeatedly stated with confidence that they KNEW where BL was. They didn't know. The statement they released today basically admitted it, saying they were "working with the best intelligence on what we thought at the time." They lied to the community, which to me is a massive breach of trust and confidence. They could have equivocated, they could have said, "The Laundrie attorney says BL is in such-and-such place," or even "The Laundrie family is not releasing that information," but instead NPPD stated several times that they knew his whereabouts. If they hadn't made those statement, if they hadn't pretended that they had BL in their sights, I wonder if efforts might have begun sooner to keep tabs on him, officially or unofficially.

    I hope, if nothing else, that LE will take that to heart going forward on future cases, and not give a false sense of security to the community when something like this happens again. If you don't know where your POI is, haven't had a single set of eyes on him to confirm he's in your jurisdiction, please don't say you do.
     
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    We will only know when or it they ate asked, And they will be.
     
  19. Nanceedroo

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    This isn’t a Romeo and Juliet story. Someone brutally put his hands around Gabby’s throat and, while inches from her face, choked the life out of her. If it was Brian Laundrie, that is the very opposite of love in every sense of the word.
     
  20. 10ofRods

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    Which is in and of itself, a kind of clue. Some people would not be able to stay silent in this situation. I figure that the family culture favors being taciturn, reticent and quiet. Seems to extend to both C and her husband. Just because some people are like this, doesn't make them weird - because there a lot of people who are like this.
     
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