You're so Vain by Carly Simon mystery man

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  1. Steely Dan

    Steely Dan Former Member

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    I think she said he's not known as David.
     
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    Steely Dan Former Member

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    I think she admitted not too long ago it was Warren Beatty. It was clear enough that when I played the song on the radio, that's what I went with, I remember. I didn't think it was up for speculation, anymore, actually!
     
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    She said it's a little about Warren, but the song has characteristics of three people, I'm assuming one is the main guy, Charles William Donaldson. JMO
     
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    Actually, I think the song is about me.
     
  6. Steely Dan

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    Geez DK, I had no idea you were so vain. :rolleyes:
     
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    I'm reading Me, The Mob, and The Music, by Tommy James (of Tommy James and the Shondells). It's a stretch, but Morris Levy could be a candidate. He was vain, flamboyant, bred racehorses, was a mobster (hence knowing his horses would win) and was a womanizer. He was also Jewish and might have interacted with the same social circles as Carly's family. When did Carly first hold a charity event to reveal the name? Levy died in 1990.

    ETA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Levy
     
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    Interesting tidbit I just read in the above mentioned book:

    Back history is the Gambinos were taking over in NYC, and the Genovese family was being hit hard. Morris (AKA, Moishe or Mo within the record industry) was indebted to the Genovese family and was in danger.

    Italy is south of France.
     
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    Trident Studios who produced Carly's first album:

    http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/oct08/articles/soundtechniques.htm
     
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    [h=1]Carly and Lucy Simon on Music, Fame, Sibling Rivalry and, Yes, James Taylor[/h]
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/26/fashion/carly-and-lucy-simon-on-sibling-rivalry-and-yes-james-taylor.html?emc=edit_th_20150426&nl=todaysheadlines&nlid=58395070



    I didn't know this, and I was/am a huge Cat Stevens/Yusuf Islam fan.:blushing:

    Thought the article would have something about "You're so Vain"...........nope!
     
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    LinasK Verified insider- Mark Dribin case

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    I still have this album I think.
     
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    bluesneakers not today satan

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    :loveyou:
     
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    So Carly, who was your vainest Lover?Warren Beatty, Jack Nicholson, Mick Jagger - even Jeremy Irons. Carly 'You're So Vain' Simon's memoirs reveal the astonishing A-list notches on her bedpost

    Carly Simon's lovers include some of Hollywood’s most infamous studs

    Warren Beatty, Jack Nicholson, Kris Kristofferson and singer Mick Jagger

    She now confirms at least one of You’re So Vain's verses was about Beatty

    Boys In The Trees: A Memoir by Carly Simon is published on December 3

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/a...shing-list-notches-bedpost.html#ixzz3sUh0wjuo
     
  19. bluesneakers

    bluesneakers not today satan

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    What if each verse is a different guy and she's telling each one he thinks the song is about him? Like guy one gets a verse, then gets mocked, Warren gets a verse, then gets mocked, guy three gets a verse, they all get mocked. So she's singing a song about three different guys, but each one is so vain he thinks the entire song is about him?

    Forgive me if this has been discussed before! I haven't kept up with this research and this idea just came to me while I was trying to figure out how only one verse could belong to Warren.

    "I had some dreams they were clouds in my coffee" has always been one of my favorite lyrics.
     
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    I can't believe she is 70! When I was in my 20's, I went to a JT concert. He and Carly walked onto the stage singing Mockingbird together and we were so excited as she wasn't billed to be there!
     

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