OK, I keep hearing people refer to this nanny as a known person and some are now believing this was a known name for years and in my honest opinion are confusing facts even more. The title nanny was used often in the past but NOT Zani or any likeness and here are the following transcripts which I just spent several hours skewering over from released document number 2. I will add docs one and 3 another evening. The following show the people interviewed by the police and their relationship to Casey, length of time known etc and their recollections of nanny versus zani!!!! Even Lee according to Amy never heard this name before this incident, when I get to his comments perhaps he has said more I do not recall from reading them originally. Taped transcript from package two July 30, 2008 document page number 156-157 RP: And then I spoke to her at ten oclock in the morning, uhm, and thats when I got the, you know Zenaida Hernandez-Hernandez crap and then uhm, uh, you know John ****** and all that uh, which again I was telling you yesterday that doesnt seem right to me. YM: Yeah, Jeff (corrects name here). Well lets RP: (inaudible) YM: lets talk about this Zenaida. You said Zenaida and crap. That kind of, obviously that peaks my interest. RP: Yeah, and she was just uh, its, Ive never heard the name and it doesnt, uh, (sighs), to me it doesnt even sound like a real name. But I have never heard the name in my life suddenly case has known her for four years she said. I, because I asked her specifically. Because I was trying to get people up here Then he goes on to say some stuff about tracking her down and then says: RP: But I, I, I found it really odd that, that Ive never heard the name of the nanny. In fact, I, Ive heard of another name. I cant think of it right now, but it was you know a, definitely a Caucasian womans name, uhm, was babysitting the child. YM: When was the first time that you, that she ever mentioned Zenaida or Zani to you? Was it on the 15th, or was it before that? RP: It, it would, it, its been, it was the morning that uh, she was getting arrested. YM: Okay. RP: Yeah. YM: So, prior to that, ever since I guess the age of five, shes never mentioned the name Zenaida? RP: Never, ever, ever. Speaks for itself, no Zany never ever. Taped transcript from package two July 16, 2008 document page number 184-185 LE: Okay, so you met her at ah, at a party. And um, how do you guys hit it off? Um, you see her she likes you, sparks fly? RM: Oh no as far as this like dating it wasnt we.. I had just met her that night. So no nothing happened from there. Um, I started I moved up to Orlando in August. LE: Uh-huh RM: and we just hung out from there. Thats when I really actually got to know her. And then we started dating in the beginning of February. LE: Alright so you, you met her would you say ah June, July, of 07? RM: June. LE: June. RM: Early June. LE: You move to Orlando in August 07. Um, you see each other? RM: Yeah. LE: Hang out a little bit. RM: We have mutual friends and stuff. Thats how we got to know each other. LE: Okay, so February comes and you guys make the leap of faith. You guys started kicking it. RM: After my birthday on the 23rd or whatever we had a party here and thats where things got serious I guess and thats where we took it from there and actually started dating. More general stuff and info on Caylee would sleep in bed with them happy couple etc. Relationship ends mid April saw her up until the end of May. Saw her and Caylee on June 9th and 10th Both slept over. Saw Casey 3 weeks later while she was visiting Amy but no Caylee. Then saw Casey again on July 2nd. (pg 189-190) (pg 192): LE: Okay. On July 2nd um, where was where do you think Caylee was? RM: She would tell us shes either with the nanny or their mom. And being that I hadnt seem her in like three weeks every since I saw Caylee. I didnt see her enough to think anything about it. Like I didnt see her consistently without Caylee I saw her like two times after that and and she didnt have Caylee and I didnt really think much of it because well one of the times I was just going to work and she was here talking to Amy. And the other time she just didnt have Caylee and I didnt.. I dont know I just didnt think anything of it. LE: Have you ever seen the nanny? RM: No. Never seen her, never talked to her. More date talk .. LE: Did you ever go out on a date without Caylee? RM: Yeah. LE: Where was Caylee at if you guys went on a date? RM: I dont know specifics, I, I would assume was with the mother or with Zani, who is the nanny of Caylee. Which is what Casey had told me the whole time I knew her. If shes not here shes with one of those two so. Known 9 months dated 6 claims to have heard the nannys name but never saw Casey consistently without Caylee except for two times? And FOOD was pretty much the only date they went on (pg 192). He has been to the parents home, when they were not there, Caylee had her own room (pg 193). He goes into more background before and after then: (pg 195): When asked what would he do/think if he were in the cops shoes: RM: So, I feel like the person were talking about now and the person I knew before are two different people. I dont really feel like I know her. Apparently where she worked wasnt true. Her nanny no one ever knew her. I really dont know what to think. Personally I feel he is confused by the new nanny name rhyme. Plus to boot he hardly EVER saw Casey without Caylee and only really dated since Feb. Taped transcript from package two August 12, 2008 document page numbers 200-225 Kiomarie friend of Casey since 6th grade. Her inistals btw are KC When asked if she new the baby sitter (Pg 220) This Zenaida person do you know a Zenaida? she responds she heard the name in the news but the only Gonzales lady she knows lives right down the street from us and she doesnt baby sit children." She also go on to mention how Caseys mother does not like Hispanic people says Yeah in spite of her mother because her mother she wont admit it but my mother will tell you this. Most of the people that live there. Will tell you this. Her mother does not like Hispanic people. And most of the guys she was with were either Hispanic or a different race. (pg 223) Taped transcript from package two July 21, 2008 document page number 226-263 Friend Amy: Apparently met Casey at the same party RM met her in July 2007 but does not recall. She was on a ship after that for 6 months came back and she was dating RM and she saw her every couple of weeks but since Feb they text messaged several times at least daily but when she started dating her new boyfriend she dropped off the face of the planet for a few weeks (page 229): LE: Okay. Okay, so from there um February and would you say May or would you say June? AH: I would say early June. LE: Okay so early June she gets a new boyfriend? AH: Yeah. LE: Alright and then you stop hearing from her? AH: I only hear from her pretty much when Im calling her about our housing situation. LE: Okay. AH: Um, she spins tales, which I didnt know at the time. Or tale but all these crazy stories about all this stuff. She also made up a story about her parents, her dad cheating on her mom. LE: Right. AH: And this huge thing which isnt true at all cause I asked her mom. Um, but made up this huge story and all this happening within the time frame of when Caylees been gone. (This is the story about Casey and Amy getting her Mom and Dads house and how its because the dad is cheating and they are divorcing etc part of this appears based in some kind of truth though from other court documents of the dad filing for divorce) (page 281) She gives her timeline of where Casey was after the 16th of June and reasoning why she was gone for a month was the divorce issue from the implications it sounds like Casey was giving Amy AH: Um, and so shes this is the whole tale and this is why she hasnt been at home for a month. Um, she.. the three weeks where she disappeared she was at the boyfriends. Um, and then the week of the 4th of July I think from that Tuesday to that Saturday she was actually was with me almost the whole time. Um, she slept at the place that Im sleeping at every night in that period cause her boyfriend was in New York for the Full Sail Break. More talk about her and job etc then (page 232) referencing when she was staying with Amy: LE: Was um, Caylee with her? AH: Ive not seen Caylee in a month at least. Um, she said that there was a part of the time when they were supposedly at the beach with the nanny and her mom, which isnt true. Cause her mom hasnt seen her in a month either. Um, and then I guess she said that they were going to Sea World on the 4th of July cause she came to the 4th of July party that I was hosting with a friend at a different place. More discussions on the timeline in between then (page 233): AH: Um, but Ive.. I always hear about Caylee. Like she talks about her a lot. I hear this is what shes doing at the nannys. Shes with my mom, my moms doing this. Like her mom, in this world that she makes up, were having lots of issues and whatnot. I dont have any idea whats true and whats not. LE: Uh-huh. AH: Um, but there were times that she was with her mom, but mostly with the nanny honestly for the past month is what I was hearing. LE: Have you ever met this nanny? AH: No one has. I.. to my knowledge everyone Ive talked to, no one has ever met her or spoke to her. Her mom hasnt met her, her brother hasnt met her, no ones met this nanny. More talk about other things, Caylee, the mom, drinking then Amy brings Cindy to Casey (page 244): LE: What does Casey say to the mom? AH: She was like, what are you doing here? LE: Uh-huh. AH: And she was like, youre taking me to see Caylee. And Casey was like, shes fine shes with the nanny, shes fine. Pretty much with that inflection. Actually a little angrier but I cant do it as well. Um, and thats pretty much the extent of what she kept saying. LE: Uh-huh. AH: Shes like.. pretty much kept being like, you dont need to see her, we need our space, blah.. blah.. blah. Even though shes been apparently with the nanny for the past month. LE: Right. AH: Um, and just pretty.. she honestly I imagined myself at 16 getting caught doing something bad. Thats the way she was acting. Then there are discussions of concern for Caylee from Cindy and how she was telling Casey she was going to take her to see Caylee etc. And they dropped Amy off back at her residence. Then there was more talk about different things including the money Casey apparently stole from Amy. She also discusses how she feels something accidentally happened to Caylee and Casey freaked out about it and created this whole story in her head. About how she likest o push buttons and can talk until there is no end in sight. Then (page 256) LE asks about the Caylee liking to go to parks etc: LE: Have you ever heard that Caylee likes to go to the park or the pool or have you ever heard what.. you know has she ever talked about.. AH: Yeah I mean LE: (inaudible) AH: I know, I know she... they have a little pool at their house. And I know she likes going in. Um, I dont.. I cant recall her ever talking about parks. It makes sense that she would like parks cause kids like parks. I know she talked about the fake, real I dont know nanny um, name Zani. Um that she.. they had been going to a lot of theme parks in the past like two, three weeks. LE: Uh-huh. AH: But then again thats completely bogus cause LE: Well, since you knew her have you ever known her to work, Casey? AH: She.. I.. Up until today really I thought she worked at Universal. I mean except for the past maybe the past three or four weeks. It hasnt been seeming like she was working. Maybe the past two weeks hasnt been like she was working at all. But she sais she had all this vacation time taken.. that she had to use it before she lost it. Then there is more talk of various thing including that how Casey mentioned going to where Caylees father was killed in his car accident and how she and her friend who were discussing this were considering that if Casey was going to stash something it might be there. Then (page 260-261) LE asks: LE: Can you think of any other information that you think we need to know? AH: Ive honestly been racking my brain and the only thing that Ive even come up with and um, Lee actually agreed that he dont.. I dont remember ever hearing the name Zani come up. I remember her talking about a nanny, but I dont remember the nam Zani coming up until about a month ago. LE: Uh-huh. AH: And lee said he was pretty sure that he didnt actually remember that name. And I was like theres no way youre gonna forget Zani the nanny? And Im pretty sure it was about three or four weeks ago that I, I heard her say Zani a few times. And I was just thinking she was saying nanny, but it was like it really sounds like shes saying Zani. (talking low) But I guess shes saying nanny. And I finally asked and she was like, no thats the nannys name. And I was like thats funny. I think I would giggle every time I said it. LE: Uh-huh. I want to see Zani the nanny. AH: Exactly. And I would just have to say Zani the nanny. LE: Sounds like something from the Muppets or something. AH: Exactly O couldnt just call her Zani Id have to call her Zani the nanny. But regardless like I dont remember ever hearing that name come up until about a month ago. LE: Okay. AH: I know she talked about a nanny um, that she went to sometimes when her mom was at work and she had to work. Um, but I dont remember ever hearing the name until about a month ago. And LE brings up that parents and nanny again and she said from what she understands Caylee is mostly with the grandparent and how from what I heard the nanny at that point in life, that nanny wasnt used often. Transcripts are separated by blue, the brown items are parts I put into my own words and or my own comments about an issue.