Zodiac Killer

Discussion in 'The Zodiac Killer' started by morf13, May 28, 2009.

  1. Kell1

    Kell1 Verified law enforcement

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    We may not know WHO he is, but we know HOW is (or was)

    Never take a suspect and try to make them fit the crime, like many "groups" do you take the evidence (key term here) and see who it connects to

    SOMEONE knows who this guy was, even though he was most likely a loner with few if any friends, behaviorally hed stand out like missing teeth .
     
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  2. MAJEthanolic

    MAJEthanolic New Member

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    I have a question - because I grew up near Mount Diablo and Lake Herman Road, I've been fascinated about this case for decades (30 years now). I'm always baffled why so many people put so much weight on the handwriting. I remember reading 30 years ago that it was theorized that the Zodiac was using an overhead projector to project handwriting (not his) and then tracing that handwriting, letter by letter, onto the letters he sent so that the handwriting couldn't be traced back to him. It would explain why he didn't correct errors in his messages (or, when he did, very crudely) because he didn't want to redo the entire tracing. I still believe that this is true - that he was using one of those oldschool projection tables, placing documents with collected handwriting onto the viewer, and then tracing them out onto the letters he sent so that the handwriting wasn't his.
     
  3. UncoolNegated

    UncoolNegated Well-Known Member

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    Wouldn't it be a shame if the Zodiac Killer was only identified 'Poste'humously

    :rolleyes:o_O
     
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    SolVic Well-Known Member

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    Well, if Poste is the killer, we can take comfort in knowing that he didn’t go out peacefully.
     
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  5. Kell1

    Kell1 Verified law enforcement

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    Ive spoken with people in the FBI on this case, in the past, and you may not be all that far off .

    Through his behavior , and through his writing you can see an obsessive compulsive nature to what he did, he was very meticulous in how he portrayed himself to the public via the Zodiac persona

    But in some cases, he was also sloppy and frustrated.

    Handwriting analysis wasnst as well known in the 60s as it is today, so its possible he just wasnt aware that it existed, and indeed did wrote all those letters.

    The primary objective of handwriting is to identify whether or not 2 pieces of evidence came from the same individual

    Handwriting experts can take it further however
     
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  6. WyomingSkyAngel

    WyomingSkyAngel Rocky Mountain Fresh

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    It would not be that weird though if the Zodiac is only discovered after he has died. Sadly a lot of murderers get away with their crimes. IIRC the solved rate for homicide cases in the United States is only 40% and that's a current statistic.
     
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    Kell1 Verified law enforcement

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    The solved rate for homicides varies depending on race and slightly by state

    However its just under 70%

    if you commit a murder you have about a 33% chance you will get away with it as of 2021
     
  8. UncoolNegated

    UncoolNegated Well-Known Member

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    Can they find a palm print of Poste's and compare it to the one they got off of the payphone receiver?
     
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    After the Zodiac commented a crime he wrote strange letters to prove he did them.
    But even stranger is, he phoned in to police and reported what he had done. Was that apart of how he wanted to be portrayed ?
     
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    To fix my spelling, Last message should read.
    After the Zodiac committed a crime.

    He then wrote in his letter,s to prove What he did. Along with When and Where. Was he making it up as he went ?
     
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    Lavender Moon Well-Known Member

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    I think he wanted the credit and the attention for his deeds.
     
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    UncoolNegated Well-Known Member

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    He seemed to be a part of a weird contingent of criminals that want contradicting things: he wanted the attention that came with getting caught and yet he valued his freedom and thus didn't want to get caught.
     
  13. Kell1

    Kell1 Verified law enforcement

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    I beleive the problem in this particular case, was that the prints they did get from the 2 different scenes, didnt even match each other, so one or neither prints, may belong to the suspect.

    Print evidence can be tricky, even if they were able to match a print to a suspect, that only indicates that a certain individual used that phone, its not a slam dunk , there has to be more evidence to support, especially with something like a public pay phone where there is going to be hundreds of prints , or a cab that may even have more

    Would be different if say we found a print inside a victims personal vehicle, etc...
     
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    Kell1 Verified law enforcement

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    Absolutely

    Underlying motive was to cause fear, fear = power, something he didn't have in his "normal" existence .

    This phantom killer in our world was most likely an oddball obsessive/ compulsive, paranoid pathetic loner with few friends, non confrontational, with physical and or sexual issues.

    The type to cower from an argument, only to do something like poison the person he argued with later.

    The "persona" was to compensate for what he really wasn't, the attacks, were to destroy that what he couldn't have or felt was wrong .
     
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