ID - Doomsday Cult Victims - Joshua Vallow, Tylee Ryan, Tammy Daybell, Charles Vallow Arrests #72

cottonweaver · Apr 28, 2023

'like a rifle'

cannon ' pretty convinced' ( testimony from 10 mins ago)

Chad organised a hit on his wife while his own son was at home 'Tammy says she went inside the house to get her husband and son. "The man in the driveway didn't say anything." ( Nate's tweets)

( Zulema's testimony: She and the crew were doing castings on Charles months earlier as he drove with JJ in the car, they were hoping for a car crash)

KMouse · Apr 28, 2023

formerlyme said:
if the bucket held the gas or had residue maybe they were afraid of it being found, and hoped it would burn away, or maybe it had fingerprints. Maybe they just thought they were cleaning up evidence just my thoughts.

I bet you are correct. The bucket held gas that was poured on Tylee and was tossed into fire.

Emi · Apr 28, 2023

formerlyme · Apr 28, 2023

I think that CD and AC are pretty deep with evidence of conspiracy we just need to get the info on LVD now....

Emi · Apr 28, 2023

cottonweaver · Apr 28, 2023

bit extra from HTC '

Chad crying so hard … ohhhhhh, tears' ( the full amateur dramatics. bet his acting is as bad as his writing)

ambiguous ' Send the corner, red house on the corner' ( coroner or corner?)

Emi · Apr 28, 2023

Nikynoo · Apr 28, 2023

KMouse said:
*grahpic* I am trying to understand what CD & AC were doing with Tylee. Why would they have a bucket. It was my assumption Tylee was placed in the burning bit whole and then they poured gas on her and set her on fire..then tried to hack her as she was burning to speed up the process. What would they have put in the bucket and when.

I think they started at the fire pit and moved the remains to the burial site and used the bucket to transport body parts.

Ruminations · Apr 28, 2023

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"Oh no," you hear Chad say as he's crying. "She's frozen." He then calmly says his name, "Chad Daybell." He continues to sound like he's crying while saying, "Oh man." The dispatcher says "I'm so sorry" and says someone is on the way.

I can't wait to hear the recording- I'm surprised Nate added the detail about tone of voice!

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cottonweaver · Apr 28, 2023

Anybody recall what time Chad/garth phoned about Tammy's death ( Neither reporter mentioned the time in the morning)

the delay

the night before
11:54 PM - 12:09 AM Alex is southbound on HWY 20, away from Daybell's ( job done) and
Chad's sends Lori 3 outgoing texts at 11:34pm & 2 at 11:35pm ( she's in Hawaii)

RickshawFan · Apr 28, 2023

indicolite22 said:
This seems very unlikely. When did they burn the body at another location? Alex arrived at Chad's in the morning and by 11am they were done with the burial.

It sounds like it would be impossible to create the degree of burning which was found in the short time Alex/Chad were in the burn pit area.

indicolite22 · Apr 28, 2023

RickshawFan said:
It sounds like it would be impossible to create the degree of burning which was found in the short time Alex/Chad were in the burn pit area.

They used gasoline as accellerant. They thought that fire could destroy the remains to even a greater degree than it did.

RickshawFan · Apr 28, 2023

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Like a sexton wouldn't know the difference between "frozen" and "dead for sometime", "dead", "stiff", "cold and no pulse", "deceased".... IMO only someone who had never experienced someone dying would have used the word "frozen".

cottonweaver · Apr 28, 2023

while court is on break

Tammy Daybell death - the 911 dispatcher

dispatcher's later conversation with LE, at 1 m 41 secs 'the family did not want an autopsy so they just went straight to the funeral home'

cottonweaver · Apr 28, 2023

RickshawFan said:
Like a sexton wouldn't know the difference between "frozen" and "dead for sometime", "dead", "stiff", "cold and no pulse", "deceased".... IMO only someone who had never experienced someone dying would have used the word "frozen".

the allegations are that there was a delay calling 911
family prayed together that morning
( can't find the link for those allegations right now)

eta - see Archibald's cross. 20 min delay minimum. ( if you believe she fell off bed at 5.45am)

KMouse · Apr 28, 2023

cottonweaver said:
the allegations are that they delayed calling 911
family prayed together that morning
( can't find the link for those allegations right now)

How long after death does it take for rigor to set in?
I am gobsmacked that a person of Tammy's age could die suddenly at home, does not have any health issues and can go straight to cremation without an autopsy and then is determined to have died of natural causes? If you wanted to get away with murder that's the place to do it!

Emi · Apr 28, 2023

Emi · Apr 28, 2023

cottonweaver · Apr 28, 2023

KMouse said:
How long after death does it take for rigor to set in?
I am gobsmacked that a person of Tammy's age could die suddenly at home, does not have any health issues and can go straight to cremation without an autopsy and then is determined to have died of natural causes? If you wanted to get away with murder that's the place to do it!

low crime rate in Idaho

Garth Daybell's account during 48hrs programme

"My room was down the hall. And I heard a thump," said Garth Daybell. "And heard my dad yell, 'Garth, Garth, come quick,' with the most panic I'd ever heard in his voice."

Garth Daybell said his mother was already dead and they called 911.

"My dad was just pacing back and forth," Garth recalled. "Just saying, 'Why? How could this happen?' Pointing at pictures on the wall, 'She can't be dead. Like, how could this be? What do we do?'

you hear a thump & find somebody with rigor mortis has fallen out of bed having been dead for hours & then call 911 straight away? All sounds unlikely

Chad Daybell's children reveal authorities told them their mother was asphyxiated

Daybell is accused of murdering their mother, Tammy. A possible motive? To marry new wife Lori Vallow and collect insurance money. His children don't believe it.

www.cbsnews.com

Emi · Apr 28, 2023

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