NH & MA-Maura Murray Part 2-merged

[Peabody]

Please note the following change:


ABC 20/20 had announced to the Murray Family that Maura would be featured in the 01/06/06 episode - this coming Friday. According to an annoucement on www.mauramurray.com (http://www.mauramurray.com/) ABC flew Maura's boyfriend and his mother to New York for interviews and toured the area in which Maura went missing with Fred Murray, her father.

However, the following, was posted on www.mauramurray (http://www.mauramurray/) by Sharon; I am posting here with her permission.

FYI:




The assistant producer for the ABC 20/20 Show has just notified me that the show featuring Maura will not air this Friday, 01/06/06.

It has tentatively been rescheduled for an undetermined date in February.



"Our help is from the Lord, who created heaven and earth." Psalm 24:8

[Peabody]

PIs working for free to find UMass student
By Jessica Fargen
Wednesday, January 4, 2006 - Updated: 07:43 AM EST


A team of a dozen private investigators is taking a fresh look at the case of missing college student Maura Murray after her family charged that New Hampshire authorities didn’t do enough to find the woman they last saw two years ago.

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“It’s a real mystery,” said Thomas Shamshak, who is part of the investigative team.
“Maura vanished. Could Maura be alive? Yeah, I think the family would hope that she went someplace else and may be living. But there’s also the possibility she’s not alive.”


View complete article at Link:

http://news.bostonherald.com/localR...779&format=text (http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=119779&format=text)

[PrayersForMaura]

Private Investigators Renew Search For Missing Woman

21-Year-Old Disappears After Car Accident In New Hampshire

NewsCenter 5's Amalia Barreda reported that Maura Murray disappeared in February 2004 after walking away from an accident that she had in Haverhill, N.H. The mystery of what happened to the 21-year-old University of Massachusetts nursing student still lingers.

..."A young lady, seemingly with everything going for her, just vanishes off the face of the Earth," private investigator Thomas Shamshak said.

.... "They're in the throes of a crisis. I could not imagine something like that happening to me. When I look into these peoples' eyes they want some closure, they need some help. That's what we're offering. That's all we can offer is some hope and bring some peace to this crisis," he said.

More: http://www.thebostonchannel.com/news/5845343/detail.html?rss=bos&psp=news

[CyberLaw]

It’s a real mystery,” said Thomas Shamshak, who is part of the investigative team.
“Maura vanished. Could Maura be alive? Yeah, I think the family would hope that she went someplace else and may be living.

Apparently this person is under the impression that her family "hopes" that she went someplace else and may be living. I have never, ever heard anyone from her family express any "hope" that Maura is alive and well. I guess he is expressing this view in regards to a normal family with a normal response.

Guess he has not spoken to Maura Father and family who have made no qualms about the speculation and assumption that they "just know" that Maura is dead. They wrote her off for dead quite some time ago. This investigator is giving Maura more respect then her own Father.

A normal family would hope against hope that their adult child is alive and well and living someplace else. Even though a fair bit of time has passed, I would think a family would find comfort that their adult child ran away from them and is happy and alive, rather then write them off for dead within two months. Years may pass, but they will always hope that their adult child will be found and/or resurface.. They even refuse to entertain any notion or possibility that their adult child may be dead. They don't even want to listen to "talk" like that.

They would not write off their adult child for dead unless they have conclusive irrefutable evidence that their "remains" have been found. Even then a lot of parents are in disbelief and denial.

There have been many, many instances where the parents just "know" that their adult child did not run away, only to be faced years later with the fact that their adult child is alive and well and chooses not to have contact with them.

In one case, after 13 years through "people search" a man was found and then he told "investigators" he wants no contact with his family. This was his choice, in his best interest. I guess he had no qualms about leaving them wondering if he was alive or dead. But then again, he is putting himself above the 'wants and wishes" of what his family expects. He is putting himself and his new family first. Not all families are nice people and there are those who believe that you have an "obligation" to put up with how they treat you and there is nothing that can be done. Well there is something that can be done, you can "run away" and leave them behind. Do you think then they just "might" get the message that when you said "don't tell me what to do, don't run my life, don't control me, don't treat me like garbage, that now they may finally get the message that you are not around to be treated in that manner.

But there’s also the possibility she’s not alive.”

As far as Fred Murray is concerned, this is not "a possibility", because only two months after Maura ran away, "he wrote her off for dead." I have never heard him say that he "thinks" that she is alive and living someplace else. Not once. So as far as Fred Murray is concerned he wants to find her dead body to bring closure to his family. As far as Fred Murray is concerned Maura has been dead for a long time now and it is just a matter of finding out how, why, where and by whom she died. He does not want to find a missing person, he wants to recover her body.

I guess some people's personality type will not even entertain the possibility that their adult child ran away and does not want to contact them for their own reasons. The word ego comes to mind.

What parent would rather choose their child is dead when there is nothing supporting this assumption, rather then their adult child ran away from them and does not want to contact them. That is not a normal response.

Happy adults do not (a) run away from their family and(b) not contact them. But as far as this family is concerned, Maura was just a happy little camper looking forward to being a 1)Nurse 2)Wife 3)Mother and 4) Army wife.

I wonder how close Maura felt to them............and if she wanted to have her whole life planned out for her by her family at the tender age of 21.

I guess at 21, you can actually change your mind about what your want for your future and whom you want in your future. After all, people do grow and change. Unfortunately, for some family members what they decide for you is what you are going to do and are expected to do. Because if you decided not to "tow" the line it creates family conflict and the lesser of two evils is just to avoid the conflict and abide by their "wishes". Even if you are not happy, this is of no concern to the "family".

Or you can run away and live your life the way you want........according to what you want.

I again have no doubt what so ever that Maura is alive and well. None.....

Heck I would even put money on that.........seriously.

[Peabody]

But as far as this family is concerned, Maura was just a happy little camper looking forward to being a 1)Nurse 2)Wife 3)Mother and 4) Army wife.

I wonder how close Maura felt to them............and if she wanted to have her whole life planned out for her by her family at the tender age of 21.

I guess at 21, you can actually change your mind about what your want for your future and whom you want in your future. After all, people do grow and change. Unfortunately, for some family members what they decide for you is what you are going to do and are expected to do. Because if you decided not to "tow" the line it creates family conflict and the lesser of two evils is just to avoid the conflict and abide by their "wishes". Even if you are not happy, this is of no concern to the "family".

Or you can run away and live your life the way you want........according to what you want.

I again have no doubt what so ever that Maura is alive and well. None.....

Heck I would even put money on that.........seriously.
Again, I ask you, how is it that YOU who have never met Maura can know more about her than all of her family, her fiance and his family and her best friends who have known her since they were children?

Why does a person have to run away to live their life the way they want to?

Maura chose WP - Maura chose to leave WP - Maura chose UMass - Maura chose her boyfriend/fiance - Maura chose her friends........... Maura chose to take a trip to NH -

Did Maura choose to vanish? I hope so - in spite of what you say, her family hopes so.

And contrary, to what you theorize on this thread, Fred Murray has met with Tom Shamshank and all of the other members of the voluntary investigative group. You report to us that you are an attorney.........do you honestly believe that a group of private investigators referred to the Murray Family by John and Maggi Bish are going to take on the case WITHOUT speaking to Mr. Murray?

Once again, I remind everyone: analyze what you read - Is it fact or opinion?

When I post an opinion here, I always state that it is my opinion or my theory. Otherwise, I post only facts. FYI for new readers: Although I am not related to Maura, I am well acquainted with many people who have known her since she was a child. I see their pain - and I have never heard any of them relate that Maura had controlling family members or a controlling fiance.

And, again I ask you, CyberLaw, (for you have yet to reply) is it fair to accuse the Murray family of being the cause for Maura's missing? There is no evidence to support that Maura ran away because of her family or her boyfriend. It is very misleading for you to state that she did because you are/were a runaway from your family.........(this is from earlier posts that were mistakenly deleted by the moderator when the new forum was established)

If anyone cares to read your post in the thread in
Missing But Not Forgotten (http://websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27485&page=2&pp=25) , they will see that ONCE AGAIN you have posted your opinion about Maura's case without answering my question.

I am sure that all members of Websleuths occasionally fail to respond to a question, but you have been asked numerous questions by many of us and you continually ignore us.

Thank you for posting here instead of the threads for the support for the family.

[LillyRush]

Cyberlaw, In regards to one of your claims, that the Murray family would never know if she was found, that is just simply not true. They may not be able to know specifically where she is if she were found alive but since this is actually being investigated by real live people - if Maura was found - they would not just sit there and continue the charade of searching for her, having her on missing lists. Her case would have to be removed from all those places, and from unsolved to solved, whether or not they were told where she was and then, yes, she may or not decide to have contact with them. But they would be able to find out one way or another whether she was out there.

Interesting reminder from Peabody.
I had almost forgotten all about the claim of you successfully running away from your family.

[Peabody]

Seems that despite some media reports, loved ones do still retain some hope that Maura is living:

Printed with Permission From WWW.MauraMurray.com (http://www.mauramurray.com/)

Helena Murray wrote:LOCAL NEWS

New eyes look for missing woman: 12 volunteers could act as ‘catalyst’ in search for student from Hanson

By JOE McGEE
The Patriot Ledger

A team of private investigators is joining forces with the family of Maura Murray to help find the missing 22-year-old Hanson woman.

John Healy, a retired New Hampshire State Police trooper, is leading the 12-man group of volunteers. They are already focusing on a few leads police might not have looked into, Healy said yesterday.

‘‘There are a couple of remote parking areas and fishing areas two to three miles from the highway and those areas may not have been searched yet,’’ Healy said.

Murray disappeared on Feb. 9, 2004, after her car was involved in a minor single-vehicle accident on Route 112 in Haverhill, N.H.

Nearly two years later, the effort to find her has been re-energized, not only by the volunteer group but by national media attention and a recently filed legal petition.

The Murray case will be featured on the ABC-TV news program ‘‘20/20’’ next month. The segment will be titled ‘‘Vanished.’’

Murray’s family has been at odds with New Hampshire authorities. The family says police have not done enough to keep them informed about the investigation.

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Sharon Rausch, the mother of Murray’s boyfriend, said the family is hoping for a resolution.

‘‘We all still feel that the odds are that Maura isn’t living, but it’s important for us to bring her home,’’ Rausch said. ‘‘We loved her, and if someone harmed her, they ought to be brought to justice.’’

Joe McGee may be reached at jmcgee@ledger.com (jmcgee@ledger.com).

Copyright 2006 The Patriot Ledger
Transmitted Thursday, January 05, 2006


http://ledger.southofboston.com/articles/2006/01/05/news/news09.txt (http://ledger.southofboston.com/articles/2006/01/05/news/news09.txt)

I would like to clarify my quote in the Patriot Ledger. Joe McGee and I talked for more than 30 minutes; I am sure that he cannot print eveything one says.

Regarding my quote, what I said in entirety was:

Knowing her, we all still feel that the odds are that Maura isn’t living, but until we have proof, we cannot give up hope. Even if she is no longer living, it's important for us to bring her home. We love Maura, and if someone harmed her, they ought to be brought to justice. We would want justice for her. The citizens of NH should also want justice so that another innocent person will not be harmed.

"Our help is from the Lord, who created heaven and earth." Psalm 24:8

[petra]

I don't believe for one minute than anyone (But the odd one or two) reading about Maura has any doubts that her family has their beloved Maura's best interests at heart.

Glad some fresh eyes have come onboard. Hoping they find some answers.

[Peabody]

"20/20" report on Maura Murray to air late Jan., early Feb.

By The Associated Press | January 6, 2006

A national television report on the case of a mysterious disappearance in northern New Hampshire won't air until late January or early February, the network said Friday.

Reports last month indicated that a "20/20" report on Massachusetts nursing student Maura Murray would air Friday night. But Alyssa Apple, spokeswoman for the ABC newsmagazine in New York, said the program is still being worked on.

More at Link: http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2006/01/06/2020_report_on_maura_murray_to_air_late_jan_early_ feb/

[murraydwyer]

Guess he has not spoken to Maura Father and family who have made no qualms about the speculation and assumption that they "just know" that Maura is dead. They wrote her off for dead quite some time ago. This investigator is giving Maura more respect then her own Father.

........As far as Fred Murray is concerned, this is not "a possibility", because only two months after Maura ran away, "he wrote her off for dead." I have never heard him say that he "thinks" that she is alive and living someplace else. Not once. So as far as Fred Murray is concerned he wants to find her dead body to bring closure to his family. As far as Fred Murray is concerned Maura has been dead for a long time now and it is just a matter of finding out how, why, where and by whom she died. He does not want to find a missing person, he wants to recover her body.....Cyberlaw

I would remind anyone who reads the above that nobody has any idea what goes on in the family's minds and hearts on a day-to-day basis...I don't recall that Cyberlaw ever mentioned knowing anyody in Maura's family let alone spending time or having a conversation with any of them....Mr. Shamshak has. Cyberlaw's assessment is made based on what he has read in the newspapers, which is determined by editors, not even the journalists many of whom have spoken with Maura's family members. Although, I must say, I have never understood CL's oft repeated apparent personal contempt for the Murrays.

Quite a while ago, I wrote a response to Cybelaw and other posters here, which I decided not to post...the gist of it was that speculation and theories are helpful...if only to rule out certain things. Quite a while ago, there was specualtion that Maura might have been involved in an alleged hit and run in Amherst a few days before she left.......it took family and friends quite a bit of time to make contact with a person who was with Maura at the time of this incident and to determine that it was not possible for Maura to have been involved. The reality is that it gave some hope that perhaps if she had been involved she might have run away. Think of how sad that is that that would become a hopeful situation.

I don't have a problem with theories...it is pretty much all we have at this point. I DO HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN SOMEONE'S THEORY IS PRESENTED AS FACT. If anybody posting here has any known facts, I would urge them to contact either the NH State Police Major Crimes Unit, the Private Detectives the family is working with through the Molly Bish Foundation or contact a moderator on Maura's website. There is also a P.O. Box listed on Maura's website where you can send information giving as much or as little information about yourself as you choose:
MauraMurray.com, P.O. Box 466, Humarock, MA 02047

[CyberLaw]

And, again I ask you, CyberLaw, (for you have yet to reply) is it fair to accuse the Murray family of being the cause for Maura's missing? There is no evidence to support that Maura ran away because of her family or her boyfriend. It is very misleading for you to state that she did because you are/were a runaway from your family.........(this is from earlier posts that were mistakenly deleted by the moderator when the new forum was established)


Well let me review the timeline here. Lets just look at the facts after the accident in her Dad's new car, that caused 10K in damage, with alcohol as a factor.

She sees him late Sunday afternoon, early Sunday evening. She has to tell him that the smashed his car, in a single car accident, with clear roads, by hitting a guardrail at around 4:a.m. to 5 a.m. Remember her family has very high expectations from her.....as she is a track star, highly accomplished person.

So let me see, that very same night at around 12:00 midnight. Maura comes back to her room and looks up directions to Vermont. She packs up her room, e-mails her professors and employers that "there has been a death in the family" and that she is expected to be gone for a week. This gives her a week's head start on the road away from everyone she knows. So of course the timing of this road trip on the very same day that she had to admit to her Father her "lack of judgement in drinking and driving". Of course I am sure that her Dad, was just thrilled. So she did not decided to leave school, on the Friday before seeing her Dad, or even the Saturday after the party. Or a week later..... It was on the very same day she had to suffer her Father's wrath. Of course again, this is a coincidence...........

Maura's sister went to WP. Did Maura choose West Point or was it expected that she was going to be a follow in her sister footstep and go to WP. But what gets me, is that she was obviously not happy with the military way of life, but then again she was expected to be an army wife. She did not want to study Chem Eng. and changed her major to a completly different field of Nursing. It seems to me, that Maura was "unsettled" in what she wanted to do with her life, which at 21 is perfectly understandable.

Also, did Maura choose UMASS. Remember her BF "helped" her choose. Again I am sure it is just a coincidence(yet again)that this was the school her Dad went to. Again, I am sure it is just another coincidene(yet again)that she choose the very same profession as her Mother.

When a child chooses to follow in their parents footsteps and their old Alma, it is very much a case of pleasing the parents, but not exactly what the child wants. Was Maura "pressured" to follow in the steps of Mom or Dad. I can see a child becoming a lawyer like Dad, but also attending the same school. Usually if that is the case.....the child is trying to "curry" favor with the parents. Trust me when I say that parents are "pleased" when their child chooses to emulate them in a way that they see as "positive" and a reflection that the child wants to be just like Mom and Dad.

Again, it is just a coincidence that the "nothing" phone call from her Sister at the security desk "had nothing" to do with Maura breaking down distraught and in tears." After all according to the sister "Maura probably just wanted to get off work". I guess it is easier to believe that your sister wanted to 'slack off" rather then you are the cause of her being distraught.

Again, I am sure that is is just a coincidence that these people just deny anything LE says and then turns to LE and ciritizes them. I am sure there was no note(according to her BF) in her dorm room, indicating problems with the relationship with her BF(who has since now become her Fiance, figure that one out). I am sure that she would not have faced "family" pressure to continue because these people seem to put "appearances" before what Maura may have wanted. Do you think her "family" would be happy if she choose not to continue in a long term relationship or would she have faced pressure form all sides(including BF Mom) to fix the relationship. Even if she wanted a clear break........I don't think so. Been there, done that. I know families feel that they can make choices and pressure you do do what they feel is "right"f or you, even if you feel differently.

So the people who claim they are "experts" on her character because they have known Maura since she was young. Hello, I knew a kid in my son's grade one class, knew him for years, A great kid, wonderful........I am defending him now....... . How a person is as a child, is not the same as when they grown up to be an adult. Growing up is the key word here.

If I had a dime for everytime I hear "He was a great kid, he would never get into trouble. I knew him from birth. I knew his family. I grew up with him. I never thought in a million years that he would get into trouble.

Remember Scott Peterson friends and relatives thought that he was the "golden boy" and look how that turned out. His old teachers said that he was a joy to teach. People "praised" his character. Old childhood friends testified how "great Scott Peterson was". I am sure in a million years Laci's family and Laci herself never thought Scott would commit this terrible, horrible crime again Laci and Connor. I am sure his childhood friends never thought that he would do this also. The "character" that he let the world see as compared to what he actually was and did are two totally different things.

So in conclusion. the timing of Maura "departure" in relation to the "interaction" with her Father is suspect. The claim of "we have known Maura since she was a child, is irrelevant. Unless Maura told these people, her innermost thought, feeling, secrets, aspirations, relationship toubles, how she feels about her BF and family, they don't know Maura as an adult.

Funny how people change once they grow up.................

Again, happy people don't ditch their families and runaway from them.

Happy people don't tell their BF one thing, all the while planning and actually in the process of leaving and not looking back.

I hope the BF does not actually plan on marrying Maura, he does not even know at this point if she may be married to another person.....or living with another person. Or dating.......or in a relationship..........

She left him behind......without telling him that she was planning to be gone for at least a week. That would be a week's head start...............

I am sure it is soooooo much easier for her family to "think" that they had nothing to do with Maura's final decision to run away. I am sure they deny there was ever any trouble.............of course they will. Would you expect anything different........denying is a coping mechanism.......

I am sure they want and feel they are blameless in all of this. It is all the fault of LE for not finding Maura.

I am sure the intent was not to make Maura flee. They had no idea. But sometimes a person says: Enough is enough........and they reach the final straw, the last straw........and a decision(which they have thought about, but not acted on) is put into place. They experience that one final factor, that gave them a push. Sometimes the person feels they need a reason, however small to put their long thought about plan into place.

You don't pack up a dorm room with the intention of returning to school. You don't leave a note for your BF indicating "problems" in the relationship if you feel that you can talk to him and work them out. You don't lie to your professors that you need a week off and then pack up your dorm room. You don't leave and not tell anyone where you are going and when you are going to be back if you intended to do same.

Like I said again: Please show me a newspaper article(recent) in which her Father states: I hope and pray my daughter is alive and living someplace else. Show me an article where any of her immediate family says this. Helena Murray is not an immediate relative.

When did the BF propose to Maura in the last two years. I must have missed that............but yet again "another spin" put forth by this family.

No one would know the whole story until they actually speak to Maura. There are always two sides to every story. Unfortunately, we get the "sanitized" version put forth by her family and BF. The self serving version...........

If I recall correctly in the early days, I can't remember whom, but there was information that Maura was depressed. Often depression in a young adult is anger turned inwards............often depressed young adults will abuse and use alcohol.

If you have any other question, please feel free to ask. If I can answer them, I will. But remember I don't have a crystal ball..............:cool:

[hydemi]

The Case Info timeline on the Maura Murray website says that Maura used her Dad's cellphone to call her boyfriend at 4.49am not pm. I had questioned this am time (2.49am in Ft Sill?) but it remains on the timeline.

Elsewhere the Dad says he had to spend much of Sunday arranging things to get his car and himself back to Weymouth, which he did and the Case Info says that Maura called him at 11.26pm making sure evidently he was home ok, after picking up her cellphone around 8.30pm which had been left in Sara A's room.

Yes it is true according to the Case timeline that Maura called Lt. Rausch at 2.18pm on Monday telling him she was ok, exactly when she was getting ready to take off from Amherst.

Yes it has elsewhere been stated that a fellow student was able to verify that Maura was at her campus security job during the time of the hit and run accident near the UMA campus at midnight Thursday (I was one of those who questioned this coincidence of timing).

There are many other timeline issues in Maura's disappearance, and hopefully the new investigating team will be able to pinpoint these as the ultimate truth of Maura's disappearance is discovered.

[Peabody]

And, again I ask you, CyberLaw, (for you have yet to reply) is it fair to accuse the Murray family of being the cause for Maura's missing? There is no evidence to support that Maura ran away because of her family or her boyfriend. It is very misleading for you to state that she did because you are/were a runaway from your family.........(this is from earlier posts that were mistakenly deleted by the moderator when the new forum was established)


Well let me review the timeline here. Lets just look at the facts after the accident in her Dad's new car, that caused 10K in damage, with alcohol as a factor. (bold for emphasis added by Peabody)

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If I recall correctly in the early days, I can't remember whom, but there was information that Maura was depressed. Often depression in a young adult is anger turned inwards............often depressed young adults will abuse and use alcohol. (italics for empahsis added by Peabody)

If you have any other question, please feel free to ask. If I can answer them, I will. But remember I don't have a crystal ball..............:cool:
First, it seems to me that you are using some type of information that even the family does not have - even if it is not a crystal ball :twocents: I have mentioned before that I am acquainted with those who know Maura well......you most often report *facts* that they vehemently deny. Actually, that is why I reply to you so often. They refuse to go public, but I see their pain and frustration over misleading and unrebutted information.

Secondly, there is absolutely NO EVIDENCE to support "alcohol" was "a factor" in Maura's first accident that caused damage to her dad's NEW car. Please check with the Hadley MA public records. Maura WAS NOT cited for DUI or any other citation involving alcohol in this accident. You have stated this before, but there is a difference between fact and fiction. Seems to me that if an accident involves $10,000 AND the police are called to the scene that the driver IS GOING TO BE CITED. Again, I repeat, Maura was not cited for the accident late Sat; early Sun on Feb 2/7 - 2/8

Thirdly, I can find no public record of Maura's family or friends stating that she was depressed. Will you please post that link? The interviews that I have seen and what little in print has been written about her, indicates that she was a very happy young woman.

I do recall that the family agreed that Maura must "be distressed" for reasons unknown for her to leave school for a week. Feeling overwhelmed or burned out, or just needing a break IS NOT the same as being depressed to the point of abusing alcohol; the fact that Maura is a social drinker does not mean that she abused alcohol.

There is an article in a MA paper wherein Sara A, a friend of Maura's at UMass, says that Maura and Kate M were in her dorm room drinking the night of the first accident. Sara says she passed out, so it stands to reason that she would not know how much Maura drank......and referencing my comment about Maura NOT BEING CITED FOR DUI or DWI, it would seem that surely the police officer would have conducted a sobriety test. The fact that Maura had something to drink DOES NOT MEAN that she drank enough to be intoxicated or above the legal limit of drinking.

Please keep to the facts.

[Peabody]

In reply to Cyberlaw:


I simply do not have the time to respond to each of your allegations and that is exactly what they are.

Maura had remained VERY CLOSE with a group of young women who got together for social events, Christmas gift exchanges, shopping trips, gettaways, etc. Since they had known her since she was a child, I am sure that they would have noticed changes. They reported none.....(not in the papers, but I know some of these young women)

I do not know when the boyfriend/fiance proposed to Maura. I *do know* that he was looking at rings over Christmas of 2003...... I even saw his mother in an interview (or perhaps in print??) say that he took her to get her opinion on the one he had picked out. I know that the boyfriend/fiance said in an interview that he was planning on giving the ring to her in the summer of 2004 and that they had planned a wedding after her graduation in May 2005.

I know that the boyfriend/fiance, his mother and Fred Murray repeatedly called NH SP regarding LT. Scarinza's remarks about Maura leaving a note to her boyfriend in her dorm room - there is a rebuttal about this remark by Sharon Rausch on the UMass Collegian website - I know the family finally received a call saying that Lt. Scarinza *meant there was a note from the boyfriend to Maura* This correction was actually published in a Press Release that was posted on the VT SP WEbsite regarding the meeting of authorties regarding Maura and Brianna Maitland. However, that link is no longer there.

I can refute everything you have to say; I just don't have the news links to back them all up - what I have is direct connections to the case; these people are not white washing anything.

For any of you interested in supporting Maura's case and her family, I humbly ask that you not tire of posting. If we all refuse to post our thoughts because of the fatigue generated by some posts, we lose the ability to help to do good for Maura's case. I am convinced that the numbers that come here to read and post about Maura has helped to generate publicity in her case. Let's not let her down.

And Let's All Pray that Maura is Alive and Well.

[hydemi]

Peabody, I sent you a private message on this site yesterday, thanks.

The more I look at the timeline as it is being filled out on the Maura Murray website starting the weekends Oct 15/22 in the Discussion section, the standout item to me regarding Maura's side of things is her continued effort to communicate with her boyfriend--her chief confidante.

She called him at 4.49am on her Dad's cellphone the morning of 2-8-4, noted receiving messages from him evidently after picking up her cellphone at Sara A's that night around 8.30pm, sent him an email mentioning his messages around 1pm on Monday, promising to call, and called him around 2.18pm on her cell, telling him she was ok even as she was almost ready to leave Amherst, checked again for messages on her cell at 4.37pm as she left UMA--and I believe Lt Rausch is probably correct that she was the mystery caller to his cellphone (as he was still in Okla City) by prepaid card on Wed am 2-11-04, which if true is her last contact with family or friend.

Clearly he was on her mind, and was her "first call" so to speak.

Yet she clearly had more to tell him that did not get communicated; we simply don't know what that was. She went from being upset during the 4.49am call on Sunday to "not feeling like talking to much of anyone" in her email to him on Monday around 1pm.

This suggests ambivalence and mixed feelings on her part--she held back something that she wanted to convey, a very different picture from that of rejecting either her boyfriend or her family.

[KatherineQ]

Peabody, I sent you a private message on this site yesterday, thanks.

The more I look at the timeline as it is being filled out on the Maura Murray website starting the weekends Oct 15/22 in the Discussion section, the standout item to me regarding Maura's side of things is her continued effort to communicate with her boyfriend--her chief confidante.

She called him at 4.49am on her Dad's cellphone the morning of 2-8-4, noted receiving messages from him evidently after picking up her cellphone at Sara A's that night around 8.30pm, sent him an email mentioning his messages around 1pm on Monday, promising to call, and called him around 2.18pm on her cell, telling him she was ok even as she was almost ready to leave Amherst, checked again for messages on her cell at 4.37pm as she left UMA--and I believe Lt Rausch is probably correct that she was the mystery caller to his cellphone (as he was still in Okla City) by prepaid card on Wed am 2-11-04, which if true is her last contact with family or friend.

Clearly he was on her mind, and was her "first call" so to speak.

Yet she clearly had more to tell him that did not get communicated; we simply don't know what that was. She went from being upset during the 4.49am call on Sunday to "not feeling like talking to much of anyone" in her email to him on Monday around 1pm.

This suggests ambivalence and mixed feelings on her part--she held back something that she wanted to convey, a very different picture from that of rejecting either her boyfriend or her family.

Is it confirmed that the last call to Rausch was Maura? I think we've all had weird calls in our lives, that if we were missing someone, we might decide that was the missing person who called. I've had awful calls, from a payphone that I can't trace, that I thought were my boys in horrible situations, my mother has a caller who's called 3 times who sounds just like me, except she's crying really hard when she calls, Beth Twitty had a call she was sure was Natalee but was determined by voice analysis not to be her. This could quite possibly be a red herring, it seems.

[hydemi]

No, this has not been verified.

Scarinza and NH police said the call to Lt R's cellphone was from the American Red Cross, which if you read posts by Sharon (mother of Lt R) on the mauram website, you will see that the Rausches disputed this immediately.

there is a summary of this phone call on the Case Info timeline on the mm site.

All that has been verified is the calling card number and that it was an ATT card--and of course the time of the call. Lt R later deleted the call on his phone.

The Rausches have remained adamant in saying they believe Maura was the caller, and I have seen no reason to argue with their conviction.

[nnglas]

Although I have a separate theory on this case, I am wondering how many peolpe think that the cell phone call to her boyfriend was in fact Maura. If it is, wouldn't that mean she walked away from voluntarily from that accident? I am very curious as to how the others think of this call.

[murraydwyer]

I've never known quite what to make of the phone call. I know the Rausch's believed it was Maura. The big but is that although the police seemed to believe that Maura was alive and had perhaps run away, they were the ones who determined in whatever way that it was someone from the Red Cross who had made the call. I say in whatever way, because the call was made on a calling card (not from Maura's cell phone) to her boyfriend's cell phone and from all I've read it is very difficult to find out who is calling on a prepaid calling card...supposedly why drug dealers use them.

[hydemi]

The posts by Sharon (Mrs Rausch) have the most detail on the mauramurray website relating to this unexplained phone call. These can be dug out by looking through her posts on the member list.

The sounds of sniffing, crying, hard breathing as if the caller were suffering from cold or exhaustion (according to Mrs R) were less than a minute in length. The caller did not call back. Mrs R supposes that problems with her son's phone may have resulted in the caller's not realizing there was in fact a connection made.

I find most convincing the argument that the ARC could not have called Lt R without knowing his cellphone number and it was Sharon who gave it to only the post commander. ARC had already granted emergency leave and had no reason to call Lt R again.

It is hard to say anthing about these sounds which both Rausches insist somewhat like the stories in "Blink" they just knew were from Maura.

As this call occurred some thirty six hours after the accident in Haverhill NH it is tantalizing to suppose it was Maura, somehow somewhere still alive.

[nnglas]

I also have a question about the area where her car was left. I read thru several boards about the area, but I am not understanding. I understand this is a rural road, but how far would she have had to walk to get to a business or business district. Either going the way she was going or going back the other way. Also, are there any car rental places in the area? I think my question stems from the theory that I read stating she maybe had a friend following her wherever she was going. That just doesn't make much sense to me. But I guess it could have happened.

[murraydwyer]

Anybody please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong...but I believe it is about 5-7 miles to North Haverhill about the same to Wells River, VT (both to the west) and 17 miles to Woodstock, NH (to the east). If the witness who remembered seeing her after almost four months is to be believed, Maura was headed east on foot. There is nobody (known to the public or the family) who has come forward and said that they either picked Maura up or saw her get into another car....though there are those on this site who have that theory.

[nnglas]

Ok, I am thinking that maybe she was with someone else. Everything I read so far seems to indicate that this was a spur of the minute thing. I am just thinking out loud here, but is it possible that maybe she had a male friend who contacted her, told her he was upset, in trouble, etc and they decided to take a trip to get away for a while. Just to relax or talk, or whatever. The reason why I say that is because.... the call to the condo (someplace to get away), the alcohol (some way to drown sorrows, or have a good time and forget problems) also the fact that there was different types of alcohol sounds like she was buying for someone also. And then there is the BD saying that she said she called AAA or something, is it possible that she had someone with her who had already gone for help.

Also, if the person she was with was a male, I can see why she wouldn't have wanted anyone really knowing about it since she was engaged. But is it possible that she was trying to be a good friend to whoever and they had something else in mind?

As I said just thinking out loud. But for me this story has always bothered me because there seems to be no real reason why she left town in the first place. It seems that if that could be figured out, maybe this mystery would be solved.

Also, I want to add, I am not at all saying she had a boyfriend or anything. What I am thinking that maybe she had a male friend who wanted something else and then later hurt her.

This whole thing bothers me because I think that we would know more if LE would have investigated this in the first place. Asked some kind of questions like any strange men in the area or something like that. By all accounts it seems that when they did start looking they were only looking for her.

[PrayersForMaura]

Father Sues for Police Files

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"It's a missing person, it's my daughter and I want to find her," said Fred Murray before he left the courthouse.

There is no time frame for when the judge will issue a decision.


More: http://www.wcax.com/Global/story.asp?S=4380027&nav=4QcS

[Peabody]

By LORNA COLQUHOUN
Union Leader Correspondent



Haverhill — The pile of documents relating to the disappearance of a Massachusetts woman nearly two years ago contains 2,500 pages, and her father wants to take a look at them.

Fred Murray, whose daughter, Maura, vanished from a rural road in Swiftwater in February 2004, was in Grafton County Superior Court yesterday morning, asking a judge to release those documents, a move he believes will help him in his own search.

“We want to take a fresh look and start over,” Murray said after a brief court hearing on his request for release of information pertaining to the case. “This gives me my best hope and my only hope. There might be something in there that means something to me that might be the key.”

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Citing Supreme Court cases, Ervin said the fact that the case has always been categorized as a missing person, rather than a criminal matter, is significant.

“The state has never characterized this as an ongoing criminal case,” Ervin said, and investigators have never given any reason as to why documents cannot be released. “The overriding concern is that she has been missing for two years and there is still no information about what happened.”


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Assistant Attorney General Daniel Mullen, who was accompanied by Jeff Strelzin, the head of the state’s homicide bureau, said the investigation is ongoing and that it “could have criminal overtones.”

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A team of private investigators is taking up the case of the disappearance, and Fred Murray said there is basic information he needs, such as dispatch logs, that would help create a timeline of what happened between the time his daughter was involved in a minor car accident and the time the first police officer arrived at the scene.

“I’m standing here trying to move every stone I can budge,” Murray said before leaving the courthouse yesterday. “Maybe I can get a break. I could sure use it.”


COMPLETE STORY AT LINK
http://unionleader.com/article.aspx...f1-9bc48bb75c0c (http://unionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=Dad+fights+for+documents+in+ disappearance+of+daughter&articleId=5983fc10-8f4d-4665-83f1-9bc48bb75c0c)

[mysteriew]

He makes a good point. If this is not an open criminal case, where wrong doing is suspected, then why are they withholding the documents from the parents?
Prayers that they will open the case up to the parents.

[WindChime]

I'm going to close this thread and start a part 3