Algerian Plane missing, 24 July 2014

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What is going on this week?! This is the third incident with a commercial plane.:scared:
 
Here is a map. It does seem the plane may have been out of its way, if it's gone down in Niger but was on the way from Algeria to Burkina Faso.

ETA: Correction - it was travelling TO Algeria, not from.
 

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The flight path of AH5017 from Ouagadougou, the capital of the west African nation of Burkina Faso, to Algiers was not immediately clear. Ougadougou is in a nearly straight line south of Algiers, passing over Mali where unrest continues in the north. The American Federal Aviation Authority recently warned U.S. airlines that Mali was a 'high risk' area for commercial routes.

A source from Air Algerie told the AFP news agency said contact was lost while it was still in Malian air space approaching the border with Algeria. The source said: 'The plane was not far from the Algerian frontier when the crew was asked to make a detour because of poor visibility and to prevent the risk of collision with another aircraft on the Algiers-Bamako route. 'Contact was lost after the change of course.'

A diplomat in the Malian capital Bamako said that the north of the country - which lies on the plane's likely flight path - was struck by a powerful sandstorm overnight. Contact was lost with flight AH 5017 while it was still in Malian air space approaching the border with Algeria after taking off from Ouagadougou, the capital of the west African nation of Burkina Faso

Issa Saly Maiga, head of Mali's National Civil Aviation Agency, said that a search was under way for the missing flight. 'We do not know if the plane is Malian territory. 'Aviation authorities are mobilised in all the countries concerned - Burkina Faso, Mali, Niger, Algeria and even Spain.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ppears-radar-flying-Burkina-Faso-Algiers.html
 
Websleuths is certainly teaching me some geography, politics, languages, law............keeps the old brain cells ticking over that's for sure :thinking::D
 
Reports have emerged that Air Algerie flight AH5017 has crashed near the capital of Niger, with at least 110 people on board.

CCTV News, the English news channel of China Central Television, reports the plane was flying through an area affected by violent storms.

Earlier, Air Algerie reported it had lost contact with one of its passenger aircraft nearly an hour after takeoff from Burkina Faso bound for Algiers.

http://www.9news.com.au/world/2014/07/24/19/42/air-algerie-loses-contact-with-plane-over-west-africa
 
The CNN weather reporter said there are a lot of thunderstorms in that area at this time of year and they showed the sattelite images of the area.
 
Bad weather

UN troops in Mali say they understand the plane came down between Gao and Tessalit, the BBC's Alex Duval Smith in the Malian capital Bamako reports.

Brigadier General Koko Essien, who is leading the UN troops, told the BBC that the area leading up to the Algerian border was vast and sparsely populated.

He added that weather in the area had been bad overnight.

Armed groups are also said to be active in the area. However, at the moment the most probable scenario looks like a plane that came down in bad weather, our correspondent adds.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-28460625
 
Today 8:33 AM EDT
Algerian Prime Minister: Plane Disappeared Above The Gao Region

Algerian Prime Minister Abdelmalek Sellal said that the plane disappeared around 3a.m Thursday. The last contact with the plane took place 10 minutes before its disappearance in the Gao region.

"There were 119 passengers on board the plane, including the Spanish crew. Searches are in progress with the relevant authorities. The victims are of multiple nationalities," he said without giving more detail. A representative of Air Algerie, Zohir Houari, confirmed that the disappearance took place above Gao, an area where militant group The Movement for Oneness and Jihad in West Africa (MOJWA) remains active.

--Said Djaafer

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/...ane-requested-route-change-due-to-bad-weather
 
air ALgeria plane missing . I thought you have to be kidding me. THen I thought ah Africa has a terrible safety history . I looked it up, I was disappointed to discover that this carrier has a good one (4 out 5) - isn that pathetic that in world climate finding out an air carrier with a good a saftey recrod might be a bad thing.

But- it was what is called a dry lease arrangement which means the aircraft was not theirs so maybe it just crashed casue not maintaned , by that I only mean someone else somewhere has not taken up the hobby of blowing aircradft out of the sky

The MD 83 is O L D !

SO hopeully.....................

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_lease#Wet_lease

Swiftair S.A. is an airline headquartered in Madrid, Spain.[SUP][1][/SUP] It operates scheduled and charter, passenger and cargo flights in Europe, North Africa and the Middle East. Its main base is Madrid–Barajas Airport.[

4 - McDonnell Douglas MD-83 (2 aircraft are operated for the United Nations Humanitarian Air Service)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiftair#Incidents
 
Erick Ahounou's a journalist based in Senegal who is following this story. He's retweeting a msg from other media source that plane's down in Tilimsi, 70km from Gao.

I'll have to look those places up on a map I'm afraid.

https://mobile.twitter.com/EAHOUNOU/tweets
 
Ugh well I am thiking this is the media but my heart sank when it was the lead story -- this sounds so bad ,please have crashed not shot.....................................................

oh good maybe just communication stuff.................
 
I can't even find Tilimsi on my ipad maps. But Gao's there. It looks a very inhospitable region, physically.

Can't they locate a beacon, in the same way they tried with MH370?
 

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drsleuth said:
Today 8:33 AM EDT
Algerian Prime Minister: Plane Disappeared Above The Gao Region

Algerian Prime Minister Abdelmalek Sellal said that the plane disappeared around 3a.m Thursday. The last contact with the plane took place 10 minutes before its disappearance in the Gao region.

"There were 119 passengers on board the plane, including the Spanish crew. Searches are in progress with the relevant authorities. The victims are of multiple nationalities," he said without giving more detail. A representative of Air Algerie, Zohir Houari, confirmed that the disappearance took place above Gao, an area where militant group The Movement for Oneness and Jihad in West Africa (MOJWA) remains active.

--Said Djaafer

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Oh no............................... pearance took place above Gao, an area where militant group The Movement for Oneness and Jihad in West Africa (MOJWA) remains active.

IS this going to become a "fad" - the implications are enormous -----if aviation shudders world ecomonmy in big big sh@t

North American air space was closed for several days after the attacks and air travel decreased upon its reopening, leading to a nearly 20% cutback in air travel capacity, and exacerbating financial problems in the struggling U.S. airline industry.[SUP][247]

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zwiebel said:
I can't even find Tilimsi on my ipad maps. But Gao's there. It looks a very inhospitable region, physically.

Can't they locate a beacon, in the same way they tried with MH370?
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Their aviation communications system is really third world

AO and Contracting States havestruggled to meet the challenges posed by civil aviation difficulties in the African Region.

Major safety issues identified by APIRG include the following:
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Poor communication links;

http://www.icao.int/safety/afiplan/Documents/plan.english.pdf

 
Live, English Language updates:
'According to Algerian media reports, the passengers on the missing flight include the following nationalities (we will keep updating this list):'

Algeria 7
France 51
Mali 1
Belgium 2
Luxembourg 2
Cameroon 5
Germany 4
Nigeria 1
Lebanon 8
Egypt 1
Ukraine 1
Switzerland 1
Burkina Faso 26
Spain (crew) 6

http://www.france24.com/en/20140724...-flight-missing--burkina-faso-northern-mali /
 
To me this reads like they know :
Ouagadougou airport says on its website that the likely crash site

A senior French official said it was unlikely that fighters in Mali had weaponry that could shoot down a plane.
 
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