Retrial for Sentencing of Jodi Arias - 12/09-11

[K-kitty]

Court is in recess til Monday 9:30.....:facepalm:

 

[Nosey Parker]

Exactly. This is exactly what Defense Attorneys do.

Deny, Deflect and Delay. Some do it with more grace and less slime.

 

[daisydomino]

Tweets from the afternoon portion of today's hearing behind the spoiler

Spoiler

11:02AM	@TrialDiariesJ	We are back at 1:30pm MST because Willmott has another witness #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
12:32PM	@monicalindstrom	JM objects to any more witnesses bc he says he has no idea who these witnesses are #JodiArias	Twitter
12:33PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan says he hasn't interviewed whatever witness's Jen Willmott is calling. #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
12:33PM	@monicalindstrom	Camera is back in the courtroom #JodiArias	Twitter
12:34PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Gilbert McReynolds is on the stand he's an investigator #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
12:35PM	@monicalindstrom	This witness was the investigator with the original defense team #JodiArias and viewed the evidence w/them in 2008	Twitter
12:35PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Gilbert was with Maria Schaffer when they first looked at the Arias evidence #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
12:35PM	@monicalindstrom	Two defense attorneys, JM, Flores and him were at the viewing of the evidence #JodiArias	Twitter
12:36PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Mr. McReynolds was there to take pic's of evidence #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
12:38PM	@TrialDiariesJ	He doesn't know how the 1st computer was turned on but Det Flores turned on the 2nd one on #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
12:39PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan wanted to know if there were any nude photo's of Jodi on the computer #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
12:40PM	@monicalindstrom	JW done with direct #JodiArias	Twitter
12:40PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan is up...McReynolds heard the comments Juan made but he never saw Juan touch the computer #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
12:42PM	@TrialDiariesJ	McReynolds left and Maria and the co counsel were still looking at the computer #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
12:53PM	@WildAboutTrial	Juan vs. Maria Schaeffer #jodiarias	Twitter
12:53PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan was looking at photo's on the computer and looking for *advertiser censored*. He said he has never seen so many pic's on the computer. #jodiarias	Twitter
12:54PM	@monicalindstrom	She spoke w/ @michaelbkiefer and she had permission from #JodiArias and her team to defend MS, JM pointing out she didn't ask the judge 1st	Twitter
12:54PM	@WildAboutTrial	Juan says Judge ordered Maria Schaeffer to testify but wants to know if judge gave her permission to talk to @michaelbkiefer. #jodiarias	Twitter
12:55PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Ton's of Jodi on her's and tons of Travis on his #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
12:55PM	@monicalindstrom	JM trying to hurt MS credibility by asking about ethical duties to a client #JodiArias	Twitter
12:55PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Flores never showed any concern about turning on computer #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
12:56PM	@mikewatkiss3tv	Former #jodiarias atty. M. Schaffer back on stand saying it was Juan Martinez who was touching TA's computer looking for *advertiser censored* #3tvarias	Twitter
12:56PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan- Did the judge give you permission to speak to Mike Kiefer from the Az Republic? #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
12:57PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan- You didn't ask the Judge to speak and you went and spoke anyway. #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
12:57PM	@SKrafftFox10	Juan Martinez says because Schaeffer spoke to media about computer *advertiser censored* deletion her testimony should be discounted. #jodiarias	Twitter
12:57PM	@WildAboutTrial	Maria Schaeffer & her perm sip a large bottle of water while JM asks if she appeared on TV re: #jodiarias	Twitter
12:57PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Maria- I asked the defense team and Ms. Arias Juan- You also went on tv before you came in here to testify #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
12:58PM	@monicalindstrom	I doubt the attack on credibility will matter much to JSS...not for this witness #JodiArias	Twitter
12:58PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Maria- When I read pleading it implied the defense team did it and I was defending myself #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
12:59PM	@WildAboutTrial	JM dramatically asks MS if she DIDN'T ask to see ALL of the evidence when working w/ #jodiarias	Twitter
01:00PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan- You were at the Mesa PD to look at the evidence Maria- Yes we wanted phones, computers, journals and so on. #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:01PM	@monicalindstrom	A judge looks at things and witnesses differently than juries do #JodiArias	Twitter
01:01PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan- What do you remember you asked for at the Mesa PD Maria- I have answered this #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:02PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Maria- I think we looked at evidence prior to that date Juan- YOU LOOKED AT EVIDENCE BEFORE JUNE OF 2009? #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:29PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Nurmi- TA mentioned the 12 year old girl. The state kept calling Jodi a liar and time has proved that's not true. #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:29PM	@monicalindstrom	KN: the state was the one that came up with the "fog" concept #jOdiArias	Twitter
01:33PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Nurmi- Martinez was looking for nudes of Ms. Arias and the computer was in the custody of the state. #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:34PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Nurmi- Arias can't move 4 a new trial until she's sentenced but the DA's office has a history of this. Debra Milke is 1 example #jodiarias	Twitter
01:35PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Nurmi- The defense experts can't fully process this evidence at this time. We have more evidence against TA's sexual proclivities now.	Twitter
01:36PM	@monicalindstrom	KN: State has confessed to wrongdoing which negates its ability to go for death #jodiarias	Twitter
01:36PM	@monicalindstrom	KN: if court believes it was the defense that deleted files then ineffective assistance of counsel so death should be taken off #jodiarias	Twitter
01:37PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Nurmi- If the defense attorney's did it then we have ineffective counsel. Dismiss this case or the DP #jodiaris #3tvarias	Twitter
01:38PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan- The defense is saying this is factual and now they have expanded the dates. #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:39PM	@TrialDiariesJ	There is no misconduct. Numeister said all this was on the registry, the command center. #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:39PM	@SKrafftFox10	Prosecutor Martinez: facts show no misconduct. *advertiser censored* sites in registry, not "history" of computer, so Travis never looked at pornsites.	Twitter
01:39PM	@monicalindstrom	JM: we don't concede that what Neumeister said was true #JodiArias	Twitter
01:39PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan- This isn't the user that's responsible. The history says different. #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:40PM	@anneryman	Juan Martinez says the facts show, "no misconduct at all."	Twitter
01:40PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan- They can scream child *advertiser censored* and then turn around and say oh maybe it was the virus. No child *advertiser censored* was on the registry #jodiarias	Twitter
01:41PM	@WildAboutTrial	Juan is up, very calm, not typical Tornado. Technical. #jodiarias	Twitter
01:41PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan- Numeister hasn't turned over the info we have needed yet. (His father passed away, just an FYI) #jodiarias #3tv	Twitter
01:42PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan calls Numeister a shady character #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:43PM	@SKrafftFox10	Prosecutor Martinez heaps blame on defense expert Bryan Neumeister,says he is "shady character" whose *advertiser censored* testimony can't be trusted.	Twitter
01:50PM	@WildAboutTrial	Juan reiterates that there was no misconduct, this isn't about *advertiser censored*. Or abuse. & those 2 aren't related. #jodiarias	Twitter
01:50PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan-The defense paid for Dworkin. #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:50PM	@WildAboutTrial	That on the stand, physical evidence contradicted #jodiarias' testimony about abuse & *advertiser censored*.	Twitter
01:51PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan- The defense position changes. Is the *advertiser censored* from a virus or him entering it in? #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:52PM	@WildAboutTrial	Juan fixates on Nurmi now reiterating child *advertiser censored* MIGHT HAVE COME FROM VIRUS. #jodiarias	Twitter
01:52PM	@monicalindstrom	JM just pointed out the mitigation expert goes by the name "Cougarlicious", wow, bet she never thought that would come back to haunt her	Twitter
01:52PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan- These leaks to the media made by State well let's talk about the MS.#jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:53PM	@WildAboutTrial	Juan says Maria, he refers to her as COUGAR-LICIOUS, gives scoops to The AZ Republic. #jodiarias	Twitter
01:53PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan- This Mitigation Specialist that goes by cougarlicious has leaked info to Michael Kiefer and others constantly through out this case	Twitter
01:54PM	@WildAboutTrial	Juan wants to know how Nurmi can point the fingers at him over #JodiArias' interview with Troy Hayden.	Twitter
01:54PM	@troyhaydenfox10	Juan Martinez asking how it is his fault that Jodi agreed to talk to me after her conviction. #JodiArias	Twitter
01:54PM	@TrialDiariesJ	You point the finger at the state for Jodi giving an interview?? How is that a state action. Maybe she should say NO. #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:54PM	@monicalindstrom	JM tells JSS to look at the facts #jOdiarias	Twitter
01:55PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan- The accusation of Sheriff office harassing Jodi and Maria as already talked about and we settled it #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:55PM	@anneryman	Martinez tells judge, "I'm asking you to take a look at the facts."	Twitter
01:56PM	@WildAboutTrial	10 minute recess. #jodiarias	Twitter
01:56PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Juan- I am asking you deny the motion. Break time #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
01:56PM	@william_pitts	@teezmepeas @TrialDiariesJ http://t.co/u5yjJ99mMN that's the video	Twitter
01:58PM	@william_pitts	Following #jodiarias ? Here's the story Martinez accused Maria Schaffer of doing without permission. @12News http://t.co/u5yjJ99mMN	Twitter
01:59PM	@william_pitts	@monicalindstrom perfect.	Twitter
02:01PM	@william_pitts	Judging from what I just read, nurmi's bringing up a lot of settled stuff and saying its misconduct. #jodiarias	Twitter
02:07PM	@TrialDiariesJ	Nurmi- I ask the court to look at facts #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter
02:09PM	@TrialDiariesJ	KN- An attack would be to attack Maria Schaffer. A fact is there's computer *advertiser censored* on computer and his detective testified it wasn't there.	Twitter
02:10PM	@TrialDiariesJ	KN- This could be instructive to the court to read. Do we wait 23 years for this to be awarded to Jodi? #jodiarias #3tvarias	Twitter

 

[MeeBee]

Court is in recess til Monday 9:30.....:facepalm:

That's normal, there's no court on Fridays.

 

[grammieto5]

Thanks everyone for all the tweets, and for answering all the questions. I think I'm going to go chill for awhile before my hubby gets home, LOL he says he can always tell when I've been on WS. See you all Monday Maybe we'll hear from this judge before then!!

 

[wenwe4]

Good. That MMS (Maria mitigation specialist) needs to be reined in and given a huge helping of humble pie. She looks like a fool the way she dresses for Court.

OT: You requested one heaping helping of Humble Pie? Love me some Humble Pie!

I give you "30 days in the hole" for your listening pleasure. I find it appropriate for this occassion!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdXjm8pZMws

 

[Shadowboy]

Just read the posts from Beth Karas. They are in depth. It seems the tweeters like Monica, WAT and others, miss a lot. Nurmi bought up the Milke case no less than three times. And regardless of how we all feel about Nurmi, his closing wasn't bad. We just got snippets here. He didn't sound like the idiot he does when reading here. Of course, Jodi is his client so that makes everything he says suspect. Hope JSS issues her ruling overnight. She said she was taking it under advisement.

To those of you subscribed to BK: Did anyone address why the *advertiser censored* hits were not initially discovered by either the DT or the PT .... and why they are found now? Color me confused.

 

[Nali87]

You know what I thought was hilarious, Maria S bringin her boss along to show the judge she's speaking the truth."I'm not lying - my boss is here!" Someone show me the purpose of that little exchange between MS and JW.

 

[Ruby]

:lol: Exactly. My mom always says she is not overweight, she is underheight.

:giggle:

:floorlaugh:

My brother would say "I'm not over-weight, I'm under-tall"

:happydance:

 

[MeeBee]

You know what I thought was hilarious, Maria S bringin her boss along to show the judge she's speaking the truth."I'm not lying - my boss is here!" Someone show me the purpose of that little exchange between MS and JW.

Ok, Maria. Let's just say you have "credibility issues."

 

[Hez]

Ok, Maria. Let's just say you have "credibility issues."

How do you solve a problem like Maria? (With my apologies to all the Sound of Music fans here).

 

[AZlawyer]

Here's the Milke opinion to keep you all busy until Monday:

http://www.azcourts.gov/Portals/0/OpinionFiles/Div1/2014/SA 14-0108.pdf

 

[blefuscu]

So will the judge make her ruling on this on Monday?

 

[5bigfish5]

No. I don't do criminal defense, except at the appellate level.

So... if I want to get rid of my husband...KILL him anywhere....TOMORROW, but drag him over the line and get Nurmi as my Attorney...

Guess I'll get to meet you in about 2050 unless he cleans up his act. Provided he is done with Jodi.

Thanks for giving all of us your precious time! XX00

 

[BritsKate]

From WAT:

Wild About Trial @WildAboutTrial · 21s 21 seconds ago


Nurmi counters that no *advertiser censored* sites found in history bc TA had 19 *advertiser censored* cleaners on his computer. #jodiarias

Right. I run avast, spybot, glary, ccleaner, and malwarebytes as needed. There is absolutely no way anyone knowing how to boot a computer would have 19 copies of any one type of program all running. Not only is it redundant and rather incredulous - it's pretty much guaranteed to fry your computer.

And I gotta admit, I have never seen scrubbers or shredders marketed as *advertiser censored* cleaners. People use them all the time because they prefer privacy in a digital age where identity theft and fraud are rampant.

Lastly, I wouldn't recommend anyone googling '19 *advertiser censored* cleaners' unless you wanna do some *advertiser censored* cleaning for yourself. My mistake. :biggrin:

 

[AZlawyer]

So... if I want to get rid of my husband...KILL him anywhere....TOMORROW, but drag him over the line and get Nurmi as my Attorney...

Guess I'll get to meet you in about 2050 unless he cleans up his act. Provided he is done with Jodi.

Thanks for giving all of us your precious time! XX00

Don't leave the drag marks behind if you want AZ jurisdiction.

 

[Nali87]

Ok, Maria. Let's just say you have "credibility issues."

Lolol. I think Nurmi manipulated Maria just like he did Sky Hughes.
This is how imagine it went (In my imagination)

Nurmi: Travis was a pedophile.
Sky: NO! NEVER!
Nurmi: We have evidence. E-mails, pictures..
Sky: You know, I always thought there was something weird about him..

Now Maria

Nurmi: Did you check out evidence in 2009?
Maria: Hmm, maybe, Idk, why? *Yawn*
Nurmi: Was Juan there?
Maria: Sure, Idk, why? *YAWNN*
Nurmi: Juan just told JSS that you pressed ok on itunes or something like that.
Maria: I don't know man, pass the salt.
Nurmi: I mean, JUAN just told JSS that YOU tampered with evidence and deleted *advertiser censored* files of the victim's computer
Maria: He's a LIAR! I remember now. He touched it. He pushed things. He caressed it. He was the one who deleted things and I remember it like it was yesterday
Nurmi: OK! Now remember you can't take what you just said back. And say hi to MK when you call him.

 

[Dmacky]

No. I don't do criminal defense, except at the appellate level.

So are you saying that you are in charge of JA's Appellate Fund? :giggle:

 

[AZlawyer]

So are you saying that you are in charge of JA's Appellate Fund? :giggle:

No way. My understanding is that she's going to hire someone super-awesome, though. Much more awesomer than I.

 

[Hope4More]

Disagree, Curious, about Nurmi making a decent closing. Read BK too. He was all over the place. Disjointed, sloppy, full of disproved accusations, misrepresentations, and half truths.

JM's made it clear he sees the motion as an "ad hominem" attack on him, replete with all of the above.

Both are arguing, bottom line, about whether the *advertiser censored* should be admitted.