DC - Savvas Savopoulos, family & Veralicia Figueroa murdered; Daron Wint Arrested #11

[corundogs]

Police obtained a search warrant late last week for a vehicle belonging to the 28-year-old assistant, a driver for Savvas Savopoulos who told police he delivered $40,000 in cash to the family’s house while they were being held for ransom before they were slain.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...arron-wint-flagged-for-deporta/#ixzz3cRIKc5R0
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See?? This is what I was saying earlier. This SW was NOT obtained late last week!!!

Why, why, why does the MSM - even highly respected publications - refuse to write accurate articles?

 

[DeDee]

For those that haven't had a chance to read the released SW's

For the box truck
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2093777-box-truck-search-warrant.html


Chevy Cruze SW
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2093776-chevy-cruze-serach-warrant.html


BMW SW
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2093649-search-warrant-for-car-in-savopoulos-family.html

From the box truck, US Marshalls noticed stacks of $100 bills that is consistent with the amount of money, $40k, delivered to the victims' home and left inside the red Moslar. Additionally, there were money order receipts that were found for appx $10,000. Where did the extra $10k come from in order to purchase the money orders? TIA

 

[Dockins]

From the box truck, US Marshalls noticed stacks of $100 bills that is consistent with the amount of money, $40k, delivered to the victims' home and left inside the red Moslar. Additionally, there were money order receipts that were found for appx $10,000. Where did the extra $10k come from in order to purchase the money orders? TIA

My understanding is that the denomination is consistent, as in $100 bills.

 

[al66pine]

Explaining the $$$ -What about idea a member suggested earlier - Emergency welding job w big payday?

Seriously, $40,000 currency in $100 bills. Why convert some or all to M/Os, etc.
Did he fear -
- LE recorded serial #s & in spending bills, he w/be ID'ed?
- poss danger of destruction of bills, of losing, of being mugged/robbed?
- arrest and LE confiscating currency. If so, why not convert/start converting sooner, so no cash on hand when arrested?

If he did not anticipate arrest, why start converting any?

Did MSM say one or ppl w him at time of his arrest, said that she/they bought M/Os etc w $ he provided to them?

I did not see DDW's SM. Did it have Flash-the-Cash pix? Maybe had to keep some $ on hand to be a babe magnet? Or a VIP w his chums?

 

[jjenny]

OK...I am so confused!!! If he is convicted, would he then be sent to Guyana to serve the rest of his life in THEIR prison? Or are they free to do with him what they want, once he is out of our jurisdiction?

What if they don't hold him??

OMG! I don't like this...

If he is convicted, serves his time in the US, and is let out, then they will deport him.

 

[emmavoberry]

I don't share your opinion.

I don't know that anyone called AIW. JW told LE that is how he knew but LE hasn't confirmed it but LE has confirmed JW admitted lying to them.

If it was my neighbor's house on fire, I wouldn't call his company, I'd call him. I have his and his wife's cell phone numbers.

JMO

Maybe I am shy, too deferential, and tend to under estimate my own role in an organization, or chain of official responsibilities, unless my role has been defined as "the first responder,", I wait for direction, if only so as not to jam the lines, unduly alarm folks, or complicate an effort to help by inserting myself.Yes, if I were the very best friend of the Savopoulos's , or family, felt myself to be THE one who should alert AS (ie.felt it my "role" to do so), I'd risk jamming the lines and being an "alarmist." JW worked for SS as a driver. The AIW official who called JS to try to discover if SS was with JS, or who, out of courtesy informed JW of the fire, I'd think was much more in a position to contact AS (or first contact her family and let them take it from there), to decide any intervention that AS employees should make, or to ask appropriate authorities to contact her and offer escort to her home. JW was taking a great deal upon himself in contacting her--all of it not necessarily a good idea as he could unduly alarm her causing her to have an accident on the way to the scene or to suffer completely unneeded stress. Doesn't seem his PLACE to tell AS her home was on fire. Did the AIW official ask that he do so?

Did he ask AIW if he might help in some way?

AIW must have known the fire department had been notified, and have had a somewhat closer relationship to AS and SS family than would JW so it would be coordinating a response to supplement emergency response, not JW.

It is natural that he might show up at the scene, once contacted about whether or not he had seen SS, but personally calling AS and leaving that hokey message?

Over-stepping, not helpful, possibly obstructive and alarmist and probably unneeded. I don't say it is proof of anything. Just that, unless he is a total greenhorn, insensitive, and stupidly inappropriate, his call does nothing but establish his own alibi.

 

[corundogs]

If he is convicted, serves his time in the US, and is let out, then they will deport him.

And since he will most likely be serving multiple life sentences, that really isn't much of a concern, right? LOL!!

 

[al66pine]

If he is convicted, serves his time in the US, and is let out, then they will deport him.

Automatic deportation? I'm reading this differently, per bold, but could be wrong.
"A D.C. Superior Court judge has ordered Mr. Wint to remain in jail pending further court proceedings. If convicted, ICE would not take him into the agency’s custody until after he served his sentence. Immigration courts would then determine whether he should be deported."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news...arron-wint-flagged-for-deporta/#ixzz3cRTvuIS5

 

[Cricket99]

But why didnt they arrest her for harboring a fugitive?

They want her to testify for the prosecution?

 

[emmavoberry]

I was wondering if they released them when they were done with that part of the investigation. It kind of seems that way.

There is a time-frame in DC Wash. to detain without charges. Several experts, according to news sources, have weighed in with the idea that their release was strategic.

 

[katydid23]

They want her to testify for the prosecution?

Hopefully. Good thinking.

 

[blessedlife]

Right. But that was when his name was released on Wednesday. He had been there since Sunday, if I am remembering correctly? Once his name was out there, he really didn't have a choice but to tell her since they were together...but I am wondering if he had told her before that. We may never know, I guess...

Well, as Dr. Phil says, " future behavior is an indicator of past behavior". She wasn't dating Eddie Haskell.....and she knows this. She knows the drill! So I'm thinking it went like this if you watch The First 48. "Your boyfriend is being investigated for FOUR murders including a child." ANSWER: " Well, I don't know nuttin bout that" ! Period end of story. If any one of his comrades told me the sky was blue.....I would take four witnesses with me to look up. Their word means beans to me because in the **** life.....snitches are in ditches. That's the reality if it.

 

[blessedlife]

If they get a warrant to search your car. It means that you are a poi but the search is needed to either eliminate you or to make it official.

Jmo

Respectfully, no it doesn't. It means they are working and eliminating people. It doesn't mean every car, house or person they search is a person of interest. It's a process if elimination.

 

[emmavoberry]

Respectfully, no it doesn't. It means they are working and eliminating people. It doesn't mean every car, house or person they search is a person of interest. It's a process if elimination.

What it does mean is that there is probable cause to search for particular listed items in the place being searched. One does not have to have been declared a POI or suspect officially, but probable cause is cause to suspect such and such items could be found in a person's possessions, house, car etc.
So LE had to document their grounds of probable cause or they could not get SW to search JW's car. They can't say we suspect everyone and need to eliminate as many as possible so give us SW on everyone.
Probable cause means probable cause to suspect this person will have in his/her possession these items which are connected to this crime.

Probable cause

 

[HastingsChi]

Has anyone able to document if the safe was indeed accessed while they were being held hostage?

While we keep focusing on the $40K, considering the luxury items the family owned that we're aware of, I'm quite confident that Wint and his accomplices left the scene with additional cash (that the family may have kept in the home), valuable jewelry and possibly gold & silver the family may have owned.

If the safe was emptied out, depending on what was in it, the perpetrators could have stolen a significant amount of valuables.

Hopefully DC police have asked the NYPD to examine pawn shop records to determine if Wint or known associates had pawned items.

 

[al66pine]

Has anyone able to document if the safe was indeed accessed while they were being held hostage?.... valuable jewelry and possibly gold & silver the family may have owned. If the safe was emptied out....
Hopefully DC police have asked the NYPDto examine pawn shop records to determine if Wint or known associates had pawned items.

bbm sbm

Yes! ^Brilliant^.

Explains, at least in part, why DDW hustled to NYC from DC immed'ly, pronto, double time, quick, stat, right away, ASAP (didn't he?). Not a knight on steed crossing the mountain/plains/desert/ocean for his fair maiden/GF. Easy-peasy answer: DC pawn shops were too warmish. JM2cts,could be dead wrong.

 

[salberg7]

This is a close to home case for me. In case anyone is interested there is a DC website named "DC Urban Moms & Dads". It is a large website with many different topics. To find the Savopoulous case, search for "Fire in NW?". There are posters on that site that cite Websleuths. I do find there is alot of petty bickering amongst posters on the thread that makes it difficult for me to follow.
I have been following this case since it happened. Such a tragedy especially for the two daughters who are now orphaned. How heartless the killer(s) were. That family should have been beginning their summer break, one daughter scheduled to graduate high school this month.
There are many conflicting reports from the media. I do think there is alot of info the DC police dept are not sharing. I have much respect for Cathy Lanier and feel she is directing her depart to solve this.
OT Jesse Matthews trial begins today....

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

From the box truck, US Marshalls noticed stacks of $100 bills that is consistent with the amount of money, $40k, delivered to the victims' home and left inside the red Moslar. Additionally, there were money order receipts that were found for appx $10,000. Where did the extra $10k come from in order to purchase the money orders? TIA

bbm sbm

Yes! ^Brilliant^.

Explains, at least in part, why DDW hustled to NYC from DC immed'ly, pronto, double time, quick, stat, right away, ASAP (didn't he?). Not a knight on steed crossing the mountain/plains/desert/ocean for his fair maiden/GF. Easy-peasy answer: DC pawn shops were too warmish. JM2cts,could be dead wrong.

Hmmm... so maybe "consistent with" the 40k means the bulk of the money was found, and the extra money orders were from pawning property they stole? IDK MOO


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[BellaVita]

Since it was his company's accountant, I think SS would have to provide a reasonable explanation for what the money was for and also give a reason he couldn't personally pick it up. If the government ever audited their books, the accountant's explanation would be required. Otherwise it would look like money-laundering.

JMO

Has it ever been established that the money was withdrawn from company accounts? Or a combination of accounts, personal and/or business? Withdrawn from one account or multiple accounts? I've never seen that specifically verified. I might have missed that info. I also don't know why SS would have to give an explanation of why he couldn't personally be there to collect the money. All he has to tell accountant is that it's inconvenient for him. End of story. IIRC, it's been reported that SS told one person he needed it for artwork and told another person he needed it for opening the dojo. Because of how things are being reported in the media and questionable credibility of witnesses, IDK if any of that is fact. There is no reason it would look like money laundering. Money laundering happens when people attempt to deposit/withdraw cash in amounts LESS than $10,000 in order to avoid reporting requirements. The withdrawal of $40,000 cash, even if it was done from multiple accounts at BOA, would have been reported. The accountant would know this and also know that there was no appearance of money laundering. IMO.

 

[Wyle_E_Coyote]

Since it was his company's accountant, I think SS would have to provide a reasonable explanation for what the money was for and also give a reason he couldn't personally pick it up. If the government ever audited their books, the accountant's explanation would be required. Otherwise it would look like money-laundering.

JMO

This company was 100% owned by SS. A withdrawal of funds like this, going directly to the owner, would likely be accounted for as additional compensation or a dividend. Removal of $ by an owner is not uncommon (speaking generally for closely held businesses, not this one particularly). In no way would this be indicative of money laundering.

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