AUS - Khandalyce Kiara Pearce (Wynarka) and mum Karlie Pearce-Stevenson (Belanglo) #5

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Someone posted this way back in another thread.

Centralian Advocate

Sept 23, 2008

Hospital spokeswoman Chelsea Rogers said all three had been discharged.

School mourns two killed in crash: P5 - Territory Stories

I shall hunt through and find a link

Found it Amee - it's a PDF but this link should get you there - Page 5

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CC0QFjACahUKEwjvq4nt8ffIAhWBO5QKHT1NCG4&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.territorystories.nt.gov.au%2Fbitstream%2F10070%2F233441%2F1%2Fcadv23sep08.pdf&usg=AFQjCNF348wmFtjCCcZMfyvSQKsUBtwRRw&sig2=832ZRTQR6vp7szFt0Gf4dA&cad=rja

 
Putting aside the method used to contact Karlie's mum and convince her that Karlie was not a missing person, I have a different question:

How did whoever was responsible actually know that a missing person's report had been filed?

Someone knew the report was filed and acted quickly to convince that family Karlie was still alive.

I haven't been able to find anything in the media from that time period about Karlie being missing, but then, it is a long time ago now and may be no longer available, however, to me, this indicates that the person who made the reassuring call(s) and/or text(s) must have been close enough to the family to know what was going on.
 

Good find! Well done.

"A 26-year-old woman,33-year-old man and two-year-old girl — all believed to be relatives of the two deceased children — were flown to Alice Springs Hospital by the Royal Flying Doctor Service. Hospital spokeswoman Chelsea Rogers said all three had been discharged". BBM.

So that article is saying Hazel was released within a week of the accident? There goes the theory of her being in hospital for months. Now I'm even more confused ... :facepalm:
 
Putting aside the method used to contact Karlie's mum and convince her that Karlie was not a missing person, I have a different question:

How did whoever was responsible actually know that a missing person's report had been filed?

Someone knew the report was filed and acted quickly to convince that family Karlie was still alive.

I haven't been able to find anything in the media from that time period about Karlie being missing, but then, it is a long time ago now and may be no longer available, however, to me, this indicates that the person who made the reassuring call(s) and/or text(s) must have been close enough to the family to know what was going on.
Family friend perhaps ? Really we dont even know if DH or HP knew karlies family before they left alice springs

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Good find! Well done.

"A 26-year-old woman,33-year-old man and two-year-old girl — all believed to be relatives of the two deceased children — were flown to Alice Springs Hospital by the Royal Flying Doctor Service. Hospital spokeswoman Chelsea Rogers said all three had been discharged". BBM.

So that article is saying Hazel was released within a week of the accident? There goes the theory of her being in hospital for months. Now I'm even more confused ... :facepalm:

Can't take the credit - it's been posted before - but thanks.
 
Some thoughts on the MVA of DH, Hazel and children.

1.All CTP insurance claims no matter weather they occur in the state of registration or interstate require the car to be registered. The laws vary somewhat from state to state, and have changed since this accident occurred however this fact, along with the default of the registered drivers insurance if they exceed the alcohol content/ drug use remain significant factors.
For more info
www.lawhandbook.sa.gov.au › Motor vehicle accidents › Personal Injuries


2. If she had a claim she could have been treated, especially in the rehab phase, in a private hospital.

3. IMO there is a good chance that her MVA insurance claim failed. This feeling is based on Hazels current action of not registering vehicles (and DH previously reported drug use.)
BOTH of DH cars REMAIN unregistered. (just rechecked to see if they have decided to register them and she hasn't :thinking:) Thank you again sleepinoz #271 :)

4. A failed CTP claim would have forced Hazel to take a personal injury claim against DH to recover her losses, and this would be a hold she would have over him.

Very unpleasant case this one.



 
The phone call to Colleen is so crucial to this crime. Colleen has, already once , contacted police and put Karlie on the missing persons register.. the news of this must have travelled fast, I'm thinking facebook which I think was clearly monitored by the killers, tracked diligently, because the myth of Karlie being still alive and cooking a roast dinner somewhere in suburban Australia was absolutely paramount to the killers and Karlie's mum and family and friends alike. Everyone needed that narrative to be working smoothly, some for peace of mind, some for retaining liberty.. both powerful reasons. And someone persuaded Colleen then , at that point, to withdraw the request for the searching for Karlie and Khandalyce.. someone very persuasive . All thru this, Colleen is legally the only one , being next of kin, who can claim Karlie to the police as a missing person, a technical point , but one not lost on the killers.

So by the time it gets round to Colleen 's illness becoming the major issue, the family, the friends, up the nature of the messages to who they think is still Karlie.. to urgent and imperative, somewhere out there they believe, and have believed since the time Colleen withdrew the original missing persons request, that Karlie is contactable thru this particular medium, because it worked before.

That Karlie and Khandalyce are dead, murdered, buried in Belanglo and a suitcase somewhere in SA never crosses their mind, but this is the terrible fact.

And because of the urgent nature of these messages, the killers decide they have to contact Colleen, because it isn't convenient for Karlie to be officially reported missing for all the normal reasons that your average murderer would have. Questions would be asked, stuff would be checked. Electronic footprints would be tracked all over the place.

So.. after much rehearsal ( my opinion ) ..between them, the voice and nature of Karlie is retrieved from the grave in the person of the female half of this enterprise.. she has a good idea of how to do it, it has to be shortish, but not sharp, it has to be utterly persuasive but not frightening, it has to be totally believable , so believable that Colleen offers to send money to Karlie's account, but this is just a byproduct of the call, a bonus, .. the main thing is Karlie and Khandalyce must be believed to be alive and well and contented together somewhere in Australia and without worry or problems that need a families assistance or advice.

And if this works, Colleen doesn't lift that handset and dial the NT police number.

And apparently... it did work. .. it does work as 4 more years roll on.. . and then.....
 
Family friend perhaps ? Really we dont even know if DH or HP knew karlies family before they left alice springs

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No, exactly. We don't know if they knew the family. Although considering they went to the car show in 2008 together we can assume they knew Karlie well enough.
But yeah, you have nicely encapsulated my point - someone (maybe or maybe not DH and HP) was in close enough contact with family and or friends of Karlie's to know about the missing person's report and to react.
 
Good find! Well done.

"A 26-year-old woman,33-year-old man and two-year-old girl — all believed to be relatives of the two deceased children — were flown to Alice Springs Hospital by the Royal Flying Doctor Service. Hospital spokeswoman Chelsea Rogers said all three had been discharged". BBM.

So that article is saying Hazel was released within a week of the accident? There goes the theory of her being in hospital for months. Now I'm even more confused ... :facepalm:

Pure guess work here, but I think it means one of two things. Either she was discharged from one hospital and sent to another for more specialised treatment, or, immediately after the crash her leg appeared to be recovering and it was only later, due to some complication, that it had to be amputated.
 
Putting aside the method used to contact Karlie's mum and convince her that Karlie was not a missing person, I have a different question:

How did whoever was responsible actually know that a missing person's report had been filed?

Someone knew the report was filed and acted quickly to convince that family Karlie was still alive.

I haven't been able to find anything in the media from that time period about Karlie being missing, but then, it is a long time ago now and may be no longer available, however, to me, this indicates that the person who made the reassuring call(s) and/or text(s) must have been close enough to the family to know what was going on.

Just a thought but

I imagine mum and the family would have been sending texts to Karlie. It could be a simple text saying hey I've reported you missing where are you ? And who ever had the phone text back ? Saying all good leave me alone I don't want contact .
 
Good find! Well done.

"A 26-year-old woman,33-year-old man and two-year-old girl — all believed to be relatives of the two deceased children — were flown to Alice Springs Hospital by the Royal Flying Doctor Service. Hospital spokeswoman Chelsea Rogers said all three had been discharged". BBM.

So that article is saying Hazel was released within a week of the accident? There goes the theory of her being in hospital for months. Now I'm even more confused ... :facepalm:

I'm fairly sure she would have been in hospital for months ( she was probably referred to another facility for her rehab phase). IMO

This link gives a good insight into what an amputee faces.....

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&...sg=AFQjCNHuKO8znGLk_AAFOQPsJymXD7xfRA&cad=rja
 
Do we know for sure that HP lost her leg in the 2008 accident?

I can remember reading - left wheelchair bound - left a paraplegic - but not an amputee.

This could have been the result of complications years after the accident or it could have been recently after the accident.

If anyone can clarify this I would appreciate it. TIA

Very good point!
 
Putting aside the method used to contact Karlie's mum and convince her that Karlie was not a missing person, I have a different question:

How did whoever was responsible actually know that a missing person's report had been filed?

Someone knew the report was filed and acted quickly to convince that family Karlie was still alive.

I haven't been able to find anything in the media from that time period about Karlie being missing, but then, it is a long time ago now and may be no longer available, however, to me, this indicates that the person who made the reassuring call(s) and/or text(s) must have been close enough to the family to know what was going on.

I would think that police, after receiving the Missing Person Report of Karlie from her mother, would of called Karlie's mobile phone which was probably in the possession of DH & or HP and perhaps left a voice message. This would explain quick action of making contact in some way with Karlie's mother/family/friends to create the scenario that Karlie & her daughter were alive & well, just didn't want contact with them at this time.
 
I did read hat they were transferred to Adelaide but I have also seen that HP spent 3 months in hospital which I think would be reasonable with a paraplegia issue, further to the hospital itself, being a victim/passenger, HP would most likely be covered under the cars insurance so would be a private patient, imo.
As would the 2 yo but not DH as the driver.

Car insurance? I assume that the vehicle would be properly registered and insured. :thinking:
 
Just a thought but

I imagine mum and the family would have been sending texts to Karlie. It could be a simple text saying hey I've reported you missing where are you ? And who ever had the phone text back ? Saying all good leave me alone I don't want contact .

Clever clogs! Of course :)
 
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