Toddler's Mother/Peaches/Jane Doe #3

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Danse_Macabre said:
We need to start looking at again at the other bodies and torsos found over the past 20 years. No that Peaches is connected, who knows what other bodies may be as well.

BTW, Josh and I have been going full speed. Since uncovering the Peaches connection earlier this week that came out of our numerous communications and pressure on Nassau ME and with help from Todd Matthews at Namus... then having "Leanne" reach out to me Monday about sex parties and Burke... well have had my hands full.
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I am starting in 1990. Making a list then going to go through and rule people out. We will see who is left. I don't have much time with the holiday's but I will work on it when I can.
 
okay been resting and trying to make sense of this. So far this is what I've put together. See if y'all can figure it out. I'm confused more now than ever lol!
Using Shadowraith's map listed below to piece this together so far.

03/03/07- Cherry's torso found. In a suitcase. Hispanic or African American descent- torso stuffed into a suitcase- found not long after killed. "recent homicide"
03/28/07- leg found by landscaper Cherry's
03/27/07- right foot and leg bone Cherry's
both the leg and the right foot and leg bone washed ashore across the body of water to the southeast of
where her torso was.
Would it make more sense that she was dumped closer to where the legs were found and her torso washed ashore further into the sound?
(Trying to look for a possible origin of body part dump.)
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?283331-Cherries-Mamaroneck-Blk-Hisp-605UFNY-Mar-2007


Peaches- Torso found on 06/28/97 around a lake. Not connected to another body of water. So her other remains had to be physically moved
to the other location. Couldn't be moved by current for example. Namus states between 20-30 yrs old black african american per NAMUS torso found within days of death.
Torso also found in a plastic tub.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?283334-Toddler-s-Mother-Peaches-Jane-Doe-3


Jane Doe 10- found 4/11/11 DNA tied to Baby Doe. (Is this part of Peaches or a totally different person?)


Baby Doe- 4/4/11 found. DNA tied to jane doe 10 &/or Peaches Namus states 1-4 yrs old. death one year before found. Which would be in or around the beginning of 2010.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?283333-The-Toddler


Something I have also noticed on both peaches and cherry- they both had drips on their tattoos.


So by this list, Peaches died in 1997, Cherry died in 2007, and baby doe died in 2010.


So... there's no way by this, that Peaches could be her mother?
Is it possible that she was a sibling to Peaches? Or Peaches had a child that had baby doe?


Is Jane Doe 10 also Peaches and is no longer considered a separate person?


I'm following the fabulous map created by Shadowraith! Great job on the map!
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/v...3&msa=0&z=10&mid=1qkhrf9-PegFz5QSz9lcmVPLGcvc

Hope this helps! lol I'm confused and medicated and y'all have probably already done this! So sorry if this is a repeat. Look at it as a reminder if anything lol! :scared: posted the pics of the tatts to show the drips. Their skin tone is very similar too. Have they ever stated the race of Baby Doe?
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Danse_Macabre said:
We need to start looking at again at the other bodies and torsos found over the past 20 years. No that Peaches is connected, who knows what other bodies may be as well.

BTW, Josh and I have been going full speed. Since uncovering the Peaches connection earlier this week that came out of our numerous communications and pressure on Nassau ME and with help from Todd Matthews at Namus... then having "Leanne" reach out to me Monday about sex parties and Burke... well have had my hands full.
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Tanya Rush should be possibly looked into I think. Found dismembered in a suitcase near where Peaches was found on 06/27/08
http://pix11.com/2014/07/24/police-...f-brooklyn-mom-found-dismembered-in-suitcase/
This is Shadowraith's map
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/v...3&msa=0&z=10&mid=1qkhrf9-PegFz5QSz9lcmVPLGcvc
 
I feel like Cherry, Peaches, and baby doe are related or connected in come way. Didn't the tattoo artists say Peaches was there with her mom and cousin? Maybe Cherry is her mom or cousin.
 
What about the murder of Rosa Delagado in Connecticut, 1997. Both she and her daughter Rosita Camacho went missing and later Delagado was found decapitated and without hands in a lake. Her boyfriend, a former police officer, Julio Camacho, was up on rape charges in 2000.
 
pineappleexpress said:
I feel like Cherry, Peaches, and baby doe are related or connected in come way. Didn't the tattoo artists say Peaches was there with her mom and cousin? Maybe Cherry is her mom or cousin.
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I have the same feeling.They are related somehow.

I wonder.... if this is like a bad family situation. Like really bad. You see these cases where there's an abusive male in the house and they abuse and kill members of the family and the rest are too scared to talk. Or if they try to get away they are killed as an example? Is it possible that this male may have raped younger members of the family? This may be where Baby Doe came from?
Just thinking outloud.
 
PositiveLight said:
Is Jane Doe 10 on Shadowraith's map Peaches?
Also can anyone find more info on the unidentified female teen found near peaches torso on 03/06/06? On Shadowraiths map.
Been trying to find this unidentified girl somewhere or on a site with no luck.

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/v...13&msa=0&z=8&mid=1qkhrf9-PegFz5QSz9lcmVPLGcvc
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Yeah thats where her extremities were found ....

I was researching the other day about some girls getting murdered in and around that same spot where shadow has teen girl pin (to the left of Peaches Torso Pin) .....baxk of airport ..... I think there is probably alot more victims out in that area.

Having researched the forums of the men that engage with prostitutes ....out the back of JFK airport is a well known area...

Give me a bit and Ill try to find the links to the other victims I found .... not sure if I bookmarked them. ..
 
Puggle said:
Sorry Positive Light ...... I didn't read the date for the teen.
So the above link I gave you was for another victim found in 1997.

I also have a link for three other women found murdered in and around that area also... in 2001.

Ill keep looking for the one for 2006.

http://www.timesledger.com/stories/2001/16/20010420-archive202.html
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Thank you for these!!! You know I'm getting a distinct feeling we are dealing with multiple SKs. As I'm searching for other possible victims I'm coming across a BUNCH of dismembered bodies. Male and female. They've definitely got more than two SKs I'd say.
I am actually beginning to think Shannon Gilbert was killed by a group. I just don't think they've found the other bodies yet.
One likes to dismember and spread out the remains or dump them separately in bodies of water. This one definitely likes dismembering. Then there's the 4 found in burlap. I think that was another serial killer and I think he possibly moves his dump sites around. Maybe 4 is like a set for him. The SK that likes bodies of water I think also likes the privacy a wooded park provides. I think the same person killed peaches, cherry and baby doe. possibly others too. I'm starting to see distinct patterns and small details with these possible different SKs. This may end up being huge. Much bigger than initially expected. I couldn't find anything on the teen Jane Doe. Which is terrible. Maybe Shadowraith could fill us in on that one?

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PositiveLight said:
Thank you for these!!! You know I'm getting a distinct feeling we are dealing with multiple SKs. As I'm searching for other possible victims I'm coming across a BUNCH of dismembered bodies. Male and female. They've definitely got more than two SKs I'd say.
I am actually beginning to think Shannon Gilbert was killed by a group. I just don't think they've found the other bodies yet.
One likes to dismember and spread out the remains or dump them separately in bodies of water. This one definitely likes dismembering. Then there's the 4 found in burlap. I think that was another serial killer and I think he possibly moves his dump sites around. Maybe 4 is like a set for him. The SK that likes bodies of water I think also likes the privacy a wooded park provides. I think the same person killed peaches, cherry and baby doe. possibly others too. I'm starting to see distinct patterns and small details with these possible different SKs. This may end up being huge. Much bigger than initially expected. I couldn't find anything on the teen Jane Doe. Which is terrible. Maybe Shadowraith could fill us in on that one?

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This is exactly my thinking. Everything you talked about is how I'm feeling about it. Numerous SKs, one group, SG murder, ect.
 
I would like to bring attention to one more case in approximate areaI, a bit to the west on the LI island, the same waters. For some time already I do have strong feeling that the case might be related even though it is relatively recent discovery, 2015.

Dismembered parts of female found in different locations and at different times around Calvert Vaux Park. Some limbs washed up on the shore, some found in trees, gruesome. Head never located. She had tattoo as well. It would be great if some of you had a look at the case and tattoo and unscramble first letter.

We all call her "Monique" even though first letter to some (and to me) does not really look like M. I have thought of Ronique but never heard of such a name. By google it seems that Ronique is used mainly by African American women.

Please share your thoughts.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...d-in-Calvert-Vaux-Park-Mar-15&highlight=13810
 
PositiveLight said:
okay been resting and trying to make sense of this. So far this is what I've put together. See if y'all can figure it out. I'm confused more now than ever lol!
Using Shadowraith's map listed below to piece this together so far.

03/03/07- Cherry's torso found. In a suitcase. Hispanic or African American descent- torso stuffed into a suitcase- found not long after killed. "recent homicide"
03/28/07- leg found by landscaper Cherry's
03/27/07- right foot and leg bone Cherry's
both the leg and the right foot and leg bone washed ashore across the body of water to the southeast of
where her torso was.
Would it make more sense that she was dumped closer to where the legs were found and her torso washed ashore further into the sound?
(Trying to look for a possible origin of body part dump.)
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?283331-Cherries-Mamaroneck-Blk-Hisp-605UFNY-Mar-2007


Peaches- Torso found on 06/28/97 around a lake. Not connected to another body of water. So her other remains had to be physically moved
to the other location. Couldn't be moved by current for example. Namus states between 20-30 yrs old black african american per NAMUS torso found within days of death.
Torso also found in a plastic tub.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?283334-Toddler-s-Mother-Peaches-Jane-Doe-3


Jane Doe 10- found 4/11/11 DNA tied to Baby Doe. (Is this part of Peaches or a totally different person?)


Baby Doe- 4/4/11 found. DNA tied to jane doe 10 &/or Peaches Namus states 1-4 yrs old. death one year before found. Which would be in or around the beginning of 2010.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?283333-The-Toddler


Something I have also noticed on both peaches and cherry- they both had drips on their tattoos.


So by this list, Peaches died in 1997, Cherry died in 2007, and baby doe died in 2010.


So... there's no way by this, that Peaches could be her mother?
Is it possible that she was a sibling to Peaches? Or Peaches had a child that had baby doe?


Is Jane Doe 10 also Peaches and is no longer considered a separate person?


I'm following the fabulous map created by Shadowraith! Great job on the map!
https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/v...3&msa=0&z=10&mid=1qkhrf9-PegFz5QSz9lcmVPLGcvc

Hope this helps! lol I'm confused and medicated and y'all have probably already done this! So sorry if this is a repeat. Look at it as a reminder if anything lol! :scared: posted the pics of the tatts to show the drips. Their skin tone is very similar too. Have they ever stated the race of Baby Doe?
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Wow, PositiveLight... you have been busy haha so much to catch up on today.

Ty for this. I'm getting lost in dates and doe's.

Could Baby Doe be Cherry's child?

I still think its all all too much of a coincidence that Peaches has a Caeserean scar for Baby Doe (can we name this poor baby?) not to be her child.

We didn't know for so long that Peaches and JD were one and the same so surely this information about Baby Doe is just wrong.
 
Al Ka said:
I would like to bring attention to one more case in approximate areaI, a bit to the west on the LI island, the same waters. For some time already I do have strong feeling that the case might be related even though it is relatively recent discovery, 2015.

Dismembered parts of female found in different locations and at different times around Calvert Vaux Park. Some limbs washed up on the shore, some found in trees, gruesome. Head never located. She had tattoo as well. It would be great if some of you had a look at the case and tattoo and unscramble first letter.

We all call her "Monique" even though first letter to some (and to me) does not really look like M. I have thought of Ronique but never heard of such a name. By google it seems that Ronique is used mainly by African American women.

Please share your thoughts.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...d-in-Calvert-Vaux-Park-Mar-15&highlight=13810
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Found this. Possible, I guess.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/s/santiago_monique.html
 
pineappleexpress said:
I feel like Cherry, Peaches, and baby doe are related or connected in come way. Didn't the tattoo artists say Peaches was there with her mom and cousin? Maybe Cherry is her mom or cousin.
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I had always read about that sequence of events yet this interview last year when Rachel and Josh were doing their documentary and interviewed the tattoo artist talks about her coming in with a friend. No mention of mother and aunt other than a mysterious call years later from her supposed mom after the AMW show aired. Which version is correct because they both cannot be, can they?

http://m.centralctcommunications.co...888-38a0-11e5-b906-3393be745a91.html?mode=jqm
 
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