Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #14

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emirates1957 said:
Thanks armchair I we could turn into a half way house for Websleuthers.

I do find it strange that I haven't had any contact from the Property Manager considering I called yesterday afternoon. I did drive past Oakley (no signage).....no additional cars at this parents place down Rosamond Road.

I considered dropping into Moonee Valley Real Estate personally and speak to an agent. Just didn't know what to do with the litre of luminol, tripod stand, stanley knife and the 2 x Navy Seal Belgian Malinois cadaver dogs!!!!!

Will get back onto the agent Monday......really I thought they would be busting their chops in order to offload a $900 week rental.
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Perhaps Em,
a family connection, reads this site, and have alerted Property Manager 'to be ware'.

However if there is no enquiry about Ristevski, you'll get through,
with your bags of goodies: but don't carry a coach bag!!!
 
[h=1]This 4hr course sounds easy enough for Bozzi-boy.

DIRECTING AND CONTROLLING TRAFFIC[/h]


This four hour course provides detailed information and assists professionals who are regularly working in situations that require the use of hand signal only to direct and control traffic.
This course is suited to persons working for specialist organisations that are specifically authorised by law to control and direct traffic by the use of the hand and arm. The course covers the theory and practical components relating to the law and the most effective method of operation for different situations.
https://www.atcprograms.com.au/cour...-control-road-work-signing-and-safety-course/
 
emirates1957 said:
Thanks armchair I we could turn into a half way house for Websleuthers.

I do find it strange that I haven't had any contact from the Property Manager considering I called yesterday afternoon. I did drive past Oakley (no signage).....no additional cars at this parents place down Rosamond Road.

I considered dropping into Moonee Valley Real Estate personally and speak to an agent. Just didn't know what to do with the litre of luminol, tripod stand, stanley knife and the 2 x Navy Seal Belgian Malinois cadaver dogs!!!!!

Will get back onto the agent Monday......really I thought they would be busting their chops in order to offload a $900 week rental.
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Property managers mostly work Monday to Friday, I'd say you will get a call on Monday.
 
sosocurious said:
“Every time I’d come down with the dogs, one of the dogs would actually stop in this position most of the time,” he said.
“I could smell a pretty pungent, arid sort of smell, but I just put it down to a kangaroo carcass. But I would walk across here and wouldn’t see anything.”

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/la...i/news-story/ed513999a9b5e1554cb3a2854762791d
Body of missing Avondale Heights mum Karen Ristevski found

Yes interesting just one of the dogs would stop.
He could smell something but could see nothing.
Well concealed it seems?
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Well concealed from human eyes but not one of the dogs’ noses it seems. It’s strange how some dogs are attracted to the odour of decomposition and others aren’t. Hence, some dogs are suitable for trading as cadaver dogs, others as guide dogs, etc.

[Note: My (now sadly deceased) Border Collie cross used to dig shallow trenches along the corners of historical grave sites after it had rained and roll in them. When she sniffed out animals’ remains, I had to be quick to intercept her before she did the same. Her ‘tells’ were a a few snorts, followed by bending one of her elbows and lifting her paw before she’d drop her shoulder to the ground. Needless to say, if I didn’t catch her beforehand, it was a quick (and often embarrassing) walk home to give her a very thorough bath.]
 
Does anyone know the details surrounding KR'S Father's death......?
 
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...ily-for-multimilliondollar-property-portfolio

A lot of people think that an arrest should have happened by now but the above story shows that even with strong circumstancal evidence it doesn't always result in a conviction. The police in the above case know they had their man so how frustrating it must have been to see him walk. I am just as frustrated as others that no arrest has been made in KR's case but would rather the longer it takes means less chance of someone walking away from a conviction.

A killer needs three things to commit a homicide (i just heard that on the crime chanel)
Motive
Opportunity
Means

Trying to link circumstancal evidence to the above three things obviously isn't going to be an easy task to result in a successful conviction. As,long as they can get a successful.conviction i don't mind how long it takes. They are still doing 15 to 20 years whether it starts in 2 months or 2 years.

As for that story on newscom with the snapshots of messages re Bozzo it read like it was more made up than a Khadasian
 
Therev would be no dna connects, as the lime has done the work.

But there could be other, that what hasn't been found. Someone knows where they are.
 
Unit45 said:
Thank you richie. A question for you, are there many waterways coming off the Macedon mountain?

Rather ask someone in the know than have a quess.
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There are heaps of small creeks coming off the hills. Those wouldn't hold much water. As the terrain gets flatter you start seeing many small dams, but the creeks still wouldn't flow regularly. There doesn't appear to be any significant waterway until a lot further south where Jacksons Creek winds its way through grazing land. There is permanent water in this creek. Anything dropped into this creek wouldn't flow far (m not km).

Tip: winding waterway = flat land; straight waterway = steep terrain.
 
steve richardson said:
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...ily-for-multimilliondollar-property-portfolio

A lot of people think that an arrest should have happened by now but the above story shows that even with strong circumstancal evidence it doesn't always result in a conviction. The police in the above case know they had their man so how frustrating it must have been to see him walk. I am just as frustrated as others that no arrest has been made in KR's case but would rather the longer it takes means less chance of someone walking away from a conviction.

A killer needs three things to commit a homicide (i just heard that on the crime chanel)
Motive
Opportunity
Means

Trying to link circumstancal evidence to the above three things obviously isn't going to be an easy task to result in a successful conviction. As,long as they can get a successful.conviction i don't mind how long it takes. They are still doing 15 to 20 years whether it starts in 2 months or 2 years.

As for that story on newscom with the snapshots of messages re Bozzo it read like it was more made up than a Khadasian
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Agreed. Better to wait and have a strong case, than prosecute and let the accused get away with it. The judge in the case you've referenced here didn't allow the jury to review evidence that could have really changed the outcome.

It irks me that the victim said "if I'm murdered it's him" and the judge didn't allow it. Perhaps the prosecution should have had the handwriting analysed also in this case.
 
richieswan said:
There are heaps of small creeks coming off the hills. Those wouldn't hold much water. As the terrain gets flatter you start seeing many small dams, but the creeks still wouldn't flow regularly. There doesn't appear to be any significant waterway until a lot further south where Jacksons Creek winds its way through grazing land. There is permanent water in this creek. Anything dropped into this creek wouldn't flow far (m not km).


Tip: winding waterway = flat land; straight waterway = steep terrain.
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Thanks for your insight on this much appreciated.
Tip: winding waterway = flat land; straight waterway = steep terrain.
 
steve richardson said:
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...ily-for-multimilliondollar-property-portfolio

A lot of people think that an arrest should have happened by now but the above story shows that even with strong circumstancal evidence it doesn't always result in a conviction. The police in the above case know they had their man so how frustrating it must have been to see him walk. I am just as frustrated as others that no arrest has been made in KR's case but would rather the longer it takes means less chance of someone walking away from a conviction.

A killer needs three things to commit a homicide (i just heard that on the crime chanel)
Motive
Opportunity
Means

Trying to link circumstancal evidence to the above three things obviously isn't going to be an easy task to result in a successful conviction. As,long as they can get a successful.conviction i don't mind how long it takes. They are still doing 15 to 20 years whether it starts in 2 months or 2 years.

As for that story on newscom with the snapshots of messages re Bozzo it read like it was more made up than a Khadasian
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I agree with you, Steve. As long as Karen’s case is being actively investigated, it doesn’t matter how long it takes to make sure a murder charge sticks to the perpetrator like glue when heard in court.

Thanks for the MSM article too. It gives us some insight about what could be occurring behind the scenes in cases such as these. The texts? Totally bizarre!
 
When the map between Loch road and Salisbury road is shown they havent gone far off.

If the something was discarded in a waterway, i can only see two nearby Riddells Creek, and Willimigongon Creek.
Riddells creek would have had to be pasted on route.

https://vfa.vic.gov.au/recreational...ribyrnong/maribyrnong-angling-waters#riddells

[FONT=&amp]"Access is restricted by private property and also by dense bank vegetation"[/FONT]
 
steve richardson said:
https://i.stuff.co.nz/national/crim...ily-for-multimilliondollar-property-portfolio

A lot of people think that an arrest should have happened by now but the above story shows that even with strong circumstancal evidence it doesn't always result in a conviction. The police in the above case know they had their man so how frustrating it must have been to see him walk. I am just as frustrated as others that no arrest has been made in KR's case but would rather the longer it takes means less chance of someone walking away from a conviction.

A killer needs three things to commit a homicide (i just heard that on the crime chanel)
Motive
Opportunity
Means

Trying to link circumstancal evidence to the above three things obviously isn't going to be an easy task to result in a successful conviction. As,long as they can get a successful.conviction i don't mind how long it takes. They are still doing 15 to 20 years whether it starts in 2 months or 2 years.

As for that story on newscom with the snapshots of messages re Bozzo it read like it was more made up than a Khadasian
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Exactly, it's not how quickly an arrest is made its how watertight the case is against the accused, they need to ensure there's no wriggle room for the guilty to walk free. In another case I follow (Dylan Redwine) it took from November 2012 until July this year for an arrest to happen, it was a frustrating wait and some thought an arrest would never happen but it finally did. Patience and perseverance are what's needed, along with faith that Vic police are doing everything they can to ensure justice is served.
 
Unit45 said:
When the map between Loch road and Salisbury road is shown they havent gone far off.

If the something was discarded in a waterway, i can only see two nearby Riddells Creek, and Willimigongon Creek.
Riddells creek would have had to be pasted on route.
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Are you reading my mind? If you are, stop it! :D I have just been searching online for information on vegetation and soil types, etc, in the area and pinned the intersection of Loch and Salisbury Roads on Google Maps.
 
https://vfa.vic.gov.au/recreational-...aters#riddells

[h=2]Riddells Creek, Macedon[/h][FONT=&quot]Flows from forest then through farmland. Substrate is rock, boulders gravel and some patches of mud. Channel width is mostly 2-3 m, with some pools up to 7 m wide. Water depth is mostly 45-80 cm with pools to 110 cm. Has a low flow during summer. The creek has excellent habitat for brown trout. Access is restricted by private property and also by dense bank vegetation. However some access can be had at road crossings with the picnic area near the town of Riddells Creek being a popular fishing spot. Carries brown trout to 450 g, small redfin and short-finned eels. Not stocked by Fisheries Victoria with trout since 1978.[/FONT]
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"Access is restricted by private property and also by dense bank vegetation"
 
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