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I actually said "supporting an ACCUSED child killer"
Please don't change what I said.
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I actually said "supporting an ACCUSED child killer"
Please don't change what I said.
Surely you are not insinuating that the girls were part of a drug deal?
lol no. But there are theories out there that they may have walked up on one, that's all I meant. It's not my current theory, but it's a theory that's out there.
And we don't motive.
RA could not be transferred to the Judge's chambers for security and safety reasons for both the Judge and RA, which is SOP. Not because Judge Gull 'wouldn't be in the same room as RA".She wouldn't even be in the same room as him. She is so biased it's sickening, IMO. I don't even think she should be a judge at all IMO.
I'm very open to my mind being changed about her throughout the trial, though.
MOO
Are people (generally, not you specifically Raven!), really that upset about a hashtag? I would think that would work in their favor if the D was also using it - anyone who googles the hashtag would surely see what the case was about, and could then make their decision to support the D fund or not based on their findings / beliefs about the case? I think if we as a society are going to get bent out of shape over the use of a hashtag in this way or that, then we really need to get outside and touch grass. We've lost the plot.JMO,
If this revolved around someone that you loved or that I loved, you would likely not feel that way. It WOULD HURT.
On top of that imagine that the people that set up that fund used a Hashtag created by family seeking justice.
I will refrain from making further comments about the ,. because it's legal for them to do and my feelings about RA and the defense are irrelevant.
AJMO
I just don't. In all that time it took to strip, murder, redress, pose, stage... it just seems to me like if sex was the motivator, sex would have happened.Pretty sure that the motive is sexual with Homicidal ideation.
2 girls were forced to strip in the woods. Sock and underwear removed from the CS .
I just don't. In all that time it took to strip, murder, redress, pose, stage... it just seems to me like if sex was the motivator, sex would have happened.
I just don't. In all that time it took to strip, murder, redress, pose, stage... it just seems to me like if sex was the motivator, sex would have happened.
This goes into the territory where I don’t want to speculate here. I just really hope the defense and the court does speculate, evaluate, investigate and close.Graphic and to the point:
We also don't know anything about SA. Could have used an object. Could have been post mortem. Could have been just the memory to live on and to be frequented whenever the killer wants.
I understand that. It's a lot to think about.This goes into the territory where I don’t want to speculate here. I just really hope the defense and the court does speculate, evaluate, investigate and close.
The plot changes when your kids die.Are people (generally, not you specifically Raven!), really that upset about a hashtag? I would think that would work in their favor if the D was also using it - anyone who googles the hashtag would surely see what the case was about, and could then make their decision to support the D fund or not based on their findings / beliefs about the case? I think if we as a society are going to get bent out of shape over the use of a hashtag in this way or that, then we really need to get outside and touch grass. We've lost the plot.
Not sex in my book, but different strokes. There is definitely a voyeuristic aspect to many of those elements - posing, stripping, redressing. The lack of signs of SA would even fit with that. Add in some following, watching, peeping, maybe got caught, maybe thought he'd teach them a lesson, show them what it feels like to be ashamed, maybe got carried away. Ugh...Voyeurism.
I can't have children and it's still empathy that helps understand why this is not ok.The plot changes when your kids die.
The hashtag was how the family wanted to memorialize the lives of Abbby and Libby .. not to promote funding for the defence of their accused murderer. Perhaps it's only people who've had children die who can understand ... IMO it's akin to vandalizing gravestones in a pre-cyber world.
If I'm not mistaken (going on total recall here) RA originally had no bond and then it was changed to $20M.Wow, you hang with a weird crowd. I never heard anyone use bail and RA in the same sentence.
This. Back to my feelings of Abby on that bridge. I think he flashed them or did something real weird. Sadly I have up and close experience with a voyeur and child predator aka my own father. I feel a vibe from her picture that they just wanted to "pretend until it passed". Or even show heyyy we are here and can't you see we have a phone? You could get caught kinda vibe. Stuff me and my sister used to do.Not sex in my book, but different strokes. There is definitely a voyeuristic aspect to many of those elements - posing, stripping, redressing. The lack of signs of SA would even fit with that. Add in some following, watching, peeping, maybe got caught, maybe thought he'd teach them a lesson, teach them what it feels like to be ashamed, maybe got carried away. Ugh...
Don't look too closely into the abyss
I don't believe moving RA was ever really about keeping him safe. They probably could have taken him up to their secure site north of town, they probably could have left him in White Co. jail, they probably could have even left him in the Reception Diagnostic Center in Plainfield, IN. But, NO, they really wanted him in Westville. IMOYou can show me all sorts of opinions. What's the end result you're looking for though, to have no prisons or to make prisons country clubs? No of course not. RA being transferred from county jail to a more secure facility was to keep him safe. Keeping him in custody was to keep the community safe. Isn't that what we do with people accused of viscous homicides? We refuse bail to keep the community safe.
The state also has the duty to keep the accused safe, from others but also from self harm. That's why the secure cell and surveillance. Then RA gets transferred out of the "POW" conditions into a new facility with actually better mental healthcare.
Perhaps now there's some other reason that will pop up for people to say, oh for pete's sake just let him out on bail already, for his trial. His, it seems, more that 25 confessions would lead a logical person to believe RA is right where he should be. And yes, I still think RA's defense attorneys and their attorney are full of it, hyperbole that is. AJMO