Well, I don't think he committed every murder in the state of California, it makes no sense to link him to the ones in Southern CA, but I'll just bet he used Molino's wrecking yard to dispose of bodies. Maybe that's why they're such good buddies, but what's in it for J. Molino, other than Garrido testifying for him at the city council meeting???
About the picture at the Sweet 16 party, I noticed that the girls were wearing nice looking (and maybe even matching) dresses. It looked like one girl had a little purse slung over her shoulder and across her body. Their hair was short and light brown. I had assumed it would be blonde since JC is blond. Their body language did not seem uneasy. From what I remember, they seemed to look pretty normal, not like kids who have never been around people.
JULIE
I appreciate your take on the situation! Do you think that Lt Orrey and Lt von Savoye (sp.) had their hearts in the search - - what did you think of their demeanor?
What about the earlier search of the Molino properties? Maybe there is investigation going on related to that, but it's "in process"? Hmmm.
As I mentioned in another thread today, there's also the computer which was taken by the FBI from the property next door. THAT struck me as more helpful than anything . . . and probably a key piece of the week's "digging", literal and otherwise, as it relates to the Garrido matter.
You will notice that in all of the pictures where they appear, both in the forground and the background, they are very close to each other and not talking to anyone else. They appear to be holding hands in one most commonly shown pictures on news outlets. That would be because they would find that sort of situation intimidating, and they would gravitate to people they know, namely each other.
The dresses are not matching btw, the color and straps are different. Their hair is a bit darker than Jaycee's, they probably got that from Garrido. PG's brother gave an account of his aunt meeting the girls once, and she said that the older one "had his eyes". Don't know what that means, but probably she has that same wierd deepset eyes he has.
But, I agree, they look like normal teens. The way the media was going on in the beginning, you would think that they were feral or something, but clearly that isnt the case.
I trust Lt's. von Savoye and Orrey far more than Sheriff Rupf. Did you see today's article that coincidentally he's decided to retire and not run for re-election? Good! The man should have been forced out of office for this debacle if you ask me.
You will notice that in all of the pictures where they appear, both in the forground and the background, they are very close to each other and not talking to anyone else. They appear to be holding hands in one most commonly shown pictures on news outlets.
I've thought a lot about your question, Cali, and I feel like something just isn't right - almost like it was all a smokescreen. I may be really off base on this, but it is how I feel in my gut.
In the beginning of the investigation there was much talk from Molino and others that led me to think that this story was going in a different direction than it has thus far. Rumors (in other forums) suggested that this area, in the 80s and 90s, was corrupt and that Jim Molino had quite a hand in illegal activities - along with the Sheriff's department.
Throughout the years, I've heard stories about this area during those times, so it came as no surprise. I really thought that would be more the direction the investigation would take. It seems like there was a dramatic "CSI" episode at the Garrido property that diverted our attention. I'm curious what the Contra Costa County Sheriff's Department was up to (if anything) during the past week.
Some things just didn't sit right with me. One being the photos released to the media with no mention that they were taken AFTER LE had torn the place up. All of our and the media's eyes were on Garrido which would have allowed one week for cover-ups with no one paying attention to anything else.
Hi Natal, I've only seen the one pic, allegedly leaked to the media by CM. Can you direct us to the other pics you refer to? Thank you.
Berkley police officers who finally cracked this case described them as robotic, pasty white and unusually submissive. Since they are the two persons, who finally after 18 years figured something was off, I think I will believe their observations.
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-kidnapped-officer29-2009aug29,0,7825322.story
You think the cops who figured something was wrong are in fact wrong, butHowever, they were pretty much the only people to meet the girls who described them in that way. Everyone else decribed them as shy but normal. That leads me to believe that the campus cops came to see them that way only after the story broke, as a manner of inflating their importance. Human nature is that way. What is more likely is that they thought Garrido was a fruitcake, that young girls shouldn't have a father like that, and that is why they investigated further.
However, they were pretty much the only people to meet the girls who described them in that way. Everyone else decribed them as shy but normal. That leads me to believe that the campus cops came to see them that way only after the story broke, as a manner of inflating their importance. Human nature is that way. What is more likely is that they thought Garrido was a fruitcake, that young girls shouldn't have a father like that, and that is why they investigated further.
According to them, behavior of the girls raised their suspicion. Why should anyone doubt these police officers-they are the two people who were finally able to crack this case. If not for them, Jaycee might never have been rescued-this went on for 18 years, after all.It's probably more likely that they did a routine background check because he was a strange man, on a university campus, asking to conduct a bizarre religious rally, like they are supposed to do. Then, when they realized he was a violent rapist it alerted them to the fact that the girls weren't quite acting like 2 girls should act towards their father. I just never understood why he was allowed to leave the university after his parole officer was alerted to the fact that his violent sex offender charge had 2 young girls with him that he never knew about? Shouldn't the parole officer have sent officers to pick him up immediately? Or gone and got them, himself? What if Garrido had never showed up with Jaycee and the girls? What if this could have all gone differently and he could have just disappeared with them all? Thankfully, Garrido complied and it went the way it did, no thanks to that worthless Parole Officer.
Garrido property bones are from animals
Henry K. Lee, Chronicle Staff Writer
Thursday, October 1, 2009
Preliminary tests on some of the bone fragments found on properties near Antioch linked to kidnap-rape suspects Phillip Craig Garrido and his wife, Nancy Garrido, show that they are from animals, police said Thursday.
Additional laboratory tests are still being conducted to see whether any of the fragments could be evidence in the 1980s disappearance of two East Bay girls, said Hayward police Lt. Chris Orrey.
"We have confirmed some as animal but have quite a few left to test still," Orrey said.
Article: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/01/BA2019VQT9.DTL
The title makes it sound like all the bones are definitely animal, then they proceed to quote Lt. Orrey as saying "they have quite a few left to test."
So does it sound like they haven't ruled out finding evidence to link PG to the other crimes?
I think its probable he just didnt dispose of bodies in his own backyard ...
imo at this point its a long shot. the rest of the bones probably are either animal or old indian bones from what i've heard.
i dont see garrido as an intentionl killer. this sicko loves live victims
