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I'm wondering if it was first reported that the mother didn't call the police until 9:30 PM via Nancy Grace's show.
Now that would not surprise me in the least!
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I'm wondering if it was first reported that the mother didn't call the police until 9:30 PM via Nancy Grace's show.
Because as Christmas fell on a weekend, and Christmas eve already took up Friday, likely the company took Monday off as their official "Christmas" holiday.
And I'm not sure that we had that much water up there to fill the ditch - however, if we did, maybe that's why it was partially in the culvert itself. I'm still thinking that they took him on Friday, but didn't immediately kill him. All this is guessing; I'm assuming all the talk about cars-on-tape means they have the woman in the car at the body, thus they can put a timestamp on the dump date - at least a better one if the video isn't the actual dumping.
Tks. I am not either. Still somebody had to tell her that Jonathan left the home (her babysitter's home and also her current home) to go to stepdad home for a video. Did stepdad tell her that?
The phone call she received at work, was that from her new home?
The missing phone, also from her new home?
Stepdad seeing Jonathan last, was that at his home?
When Mom went home from work and could not find Jonathan. Did she go to her old home or new home?.
Too many "which home" questions.
Not privy to any other information at all. Just connecting thoughts and kind of theorizing, based on human behavior and addicts' behavior. I hope this makes sense:
Most of us would assume that if he was at a babysitter's house, that a) this would be different than his home, b) he wouldn't live at the babysitter's house, c) if he was at the babysitter's house, there would actually be a babysitter there, watching him. So AD said he was at the babysitter's house, which was the truth, and let everyone assume that someone was watching him. She didn't actually lie, IMO.
It's also typical addict/dependant behavior to make statements that one knows others will fill in the blanks on, and then be innocent of misleading folks. AD, in her mind, could be upset and indignant that LE did not jump on things soon enough, because it wasn't her fault that LE jumped to conclusions and then thought she was telling lies. That's all my supposition, of course.
Tks. I am not either. Still somebody had to tell her that Jonathan left the home (her babysitter's home and also her current home) to go to stepdad home for a video. Did stepdad tell her that?
The phone call she received at work, was that from her new home?
The missing phone, also from her new home?
Stepdad seeing Jonathan last, was that at his home?
When Mom went home from work and could not find Jonathan. Did she go to her old home or new home?.
Too many "which home" questions.
Can we all get updated and on the same page? Maybe others can repost some media links for people who are just coming in? Too much misinformation being posted as facts. If something is just your opinion, please follow with an IMO, MOO, or JMO. Thanks!
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7356276.html
WS is acting up so I can't quote a post. But the mother did lie about the babysitter per Sgt Harris. I am assuming the story about the video is a lie since Jonathan was at home and didn't need to go anywhere to get a video game.
(snip)
Was not with babysitter
Initial reports that Jonathan had disappeared after running home from a babysitter's house to retrieve a video game turned out to be false, Harris said. The boy's mother eventually admitted that Jonathan was not in the care of a babysitter when he disappeared, he said.
"There was some shame and embarrassment about leaving a kid home alone, but it's not unusual for a 12-year-old to be home alone," Harris said.
I have always wondered about who told her that he ran home for a game. Most moms don't let their kids leave the house when they are home alone. I wonder who gave him permission to leave?
the bickering of home versus old home versus new home with roommate/sitter, he ran home he ran to sitters, is exactly my point of why the inaccuracies of where jf was really at is concerning to me.... why so much effort in making up video story to stress jfs place of abduction??? obvious confusion but leaves ya wondering why...imo
Tks. I am not either. Still somebody had to tell her that Jonathan left the home (her babysitter's home and also her current home) to go to stepdad home for a video. Did stepdad tell her that?
The phone call she received at work, was that from her new home?
The missing phone, also from her new home?
Stepdad seeing Jonathan last, was that at his home?
When Mom went home from work and could not find Jonathan. Did she go to her old home or new home?.
Too many "which home" questions.
My apologies if I offend anyone by saying this...
Seriously, I can't understand why any parent would lie, or not admit to leaving a child home alone during a time such as this. I suppose I don't understand how making up a story trying to keep yourself out of trouble (something so minor) would supersede finding your own child. One would think that a mother whose son is missing would not give a crap what the law thought about leaving him alone at 12 years old, they would care more about the facts.
While I, too, am annoyed that it took LE so long to put him into the system as a missing person and to issue an Amber Alert, I imagine that they took the 6 hours between 3:30 and 9:30 trying to get the story straight.
It must be difficult these days for the LE to figure out complicated family relationships (Bio mom, Step mom, Step father, bio father) especially with blended families, etc. Add in the fact that the mother was "afraid" to admit that Jonathan was left alone, and you've got a recipe for disaster.
I for one feel badly for the mother and do not think she is involved. Her pain and confusion looks and sounds too genuine to me. If the media reports are to be believed, she is still hoping he is alive and is not accepting the fact that the burned body might be her son's.
My prayers are with Jonathan's extended family-- especially those who raised him for 6 years and showed him such incredible kindness.
Fact: The police did not issue an Amber Alert for three days.
Fact: Mother, Angela Davis, has told conflicting accounts of the day in question. First it was Jonathan went to go get something at the babysitter's house. Then it was she received a mysterious phone call from a raspy voiced woman at her workplace.
"Initial reports that Jonathan had disappeared after running home from a babysitter's house to retrieve a video game turned out to be false, Harris said. The boy's mother eventually admitted that Jonathan was not in the care of a babysitter when he disappeared, he said.
"There was some shame and embarrassment about leaving a kid home alone, but it's not unusual for a 12-year-old to be home alone," Harris said.
Jonathan, who used to live with his grandmother, had moved in with his mother and stepfather at the Villa Nueva apartment complex in the 800 block of Oak in November, the sergeant said."
In mid-December, Jonathan and his mother moved to a nearby apartment after "mom had some troubles with the stepdad," Harris said.
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/metropolitan/7356276.html
She lied/fibbed/made up a whole bunch of stuff initally and I would like to know why. Why? Seriously. Shame and embarrassment over leaving the 12 year old at home alone or what else?The truth is, it chaps my hide that she is angry at LE, when it was her fibs that kept LE from issuing an Amber Alert in the first place. There is a reason that for 12 years she wasn't a primary caretaker to her son. Fact. That and her unwavering defense of the SF bother me. I am still, and will always be sorry for what she is going through...but this just reaks of the Haleigh Cummings stuff. Reaks.
I think LE has done a FANTASTIC job. I for one am going to give them the benefit of the doubt because they have EARNED it. I am not going to second guess anything they have done thus far.
The media reporting on this case...not so much.