Nothing has happened. No DOD or COD. There apparently was a rumor of an arrest going around. Evansdale police released a statement saying it was not true. They are having some special help interviewing persons of interest from DCI sex offenders, but it doesn't mean they are any closer to getting a suspect or ruling anyone out.
IA IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #23
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Nothing has happened. No DOD or COD. There apparently was a rumor of an arrest going around. Evansdale police released a statement saying it was not true. They are having some special help interviewing persons of interest from DCI sex offenders, but it doesn't mean they are any closer to getting a suspect or ruling anyone out.
No news.
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....but the lake that girl was talking about was in Waterloo. Why would Lyric asked her father about Meyer's Lake? He doesn't live there. Wouldn't it be more of Heather's or Lyric's GMA that would give the permission?
Lyric just got in trouble for going to a Lake in Waterloo. What did she think would happen if she asked for permission to go to another lake. This is very strange. Where does this Tammy's daughter live? Where was Elizabeth's brother when all this was going on?
After sleuthing many missing children cases, I have come not to expect any answers from locals or LE. It's a darn shame we don't have Greta on these things. She always asks what I want to know.
Lyric just got in trouble for going to a Lake in Waterloo. What did she think would happen if she asked for permission to go to another lake. This is very strange. Where does this Tammy's daughter live? Where was Elizabeth's brother when all this was going on?
After sleuthing many missing children cases, I have come not to expect any answers from locals or LE. It's a darn shame we don't have Greta on these things. She always asks what I want to know.
It's not a continuous video, it's a second here, a second there. We don't how long the video is, but we know that police spent hours revieiwing the footage and that they took note of all vehicles in the area at the time.
The video is less than a minute IIRC. LE never said what came before or after them, nor did they show anything.
Lyric had an older brother. Maybe she heard him talking about Meyers Lake, or perhaps Elizabeth mentioned it since she had two neighbor friends that often rode their bikes to Meyers Lake. Elizabeth was the oldest child in her family. Why would her little brother be with her?
BBM-Elizabeth also has an older brother-KC. I believe he is 13 now. She has 2 little sisters, 4 & 7.
Because the siblings of the victims are unrelated to the disappearance, no one has sleuthed their whereabouts at the time of the abduction. However, since Lyric's grandmother was babysitting Elizabeth and her siblings, they were most likely all at home. As for Lyric's brother, no one knows. Regarding Lyric and Elizabeth's aunt Tammy, again, she is unrelated to the abduction.
IIRC, Elizabeth's brother did go with WC to look for the girls.
For some reason, I had the impression that Elizabeth was the oldest ... but I probably wasn't listening carefully enough to the interview last week.
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I don't understand the police silence? wouldn't they want to get the info out there so the public could help? It has been over five months and we know nothing. I thought when the girls were found, we would see the case break...
....wrong.
....wrong.
BBM....I leave some flip flops outside just for summer/gardening purposes...it seems even the cheapo's from Walgreens are fairly 'indestructible'...both out west in AZ sun and out east...
Just a 'factoid'...
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I was really expecting by now for LE to ask public for help and saying everyday 'watch your children!" Beware a killer is out there...............
That's something that I remember from the early days of the investigation ... maybe someone else vaguely remembers that too??? I remember it only in one news report ... don't think I'd be able to find it anymore.
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Actually, I do remember someone in the family, not sure if it was Misty or Tammi, IIRC, who stated that Lyric was not allowed to go to Meyers Lake.
You might want to go back to transcripts of interviews on the NG or that JVM, as I think that is where I saw reference to it.
It may also have something to do with youth; when I was a kid, my flip flops never fell off and I could run in them. As an adult, I never get them anymore because they fall off my feet every couple steps.
It's likely that the only tall grass that had to be navigated was at the very beginning of the walk into the woods and then in the clearing where they were found. Under the heavy tree canopy, there are usually plants but there's usually leaf litter around each plant. It's relatively open in the deep shade.[/quote]
I have very mixed feelings about this subject, having witnessed all kinds
of people wearing 'flip flops' or some variety of simple sandal, in combat,
fighting wars and going through grass and jungles and knee deep mud
running and maneuvering easily with them on! Yes Ive seen them fall off
people including kids just walking across the lawn in the neighborhood.
And 'yes' there are different kinds of 'flip flops' like the Walmart flop, the
Vietnamese knob-flops which only have a knob that fits in between toes
with no straps, then the Ho Chi Minh sandals with straps (very secure) ...
The girls didnt hesitate to peddle their bikes with them on. The fact they
left in their flops on then were found with their flops (on?) ... I dont know
how much one can or should read into this ... except that they were
present for some reason from beginning to end ? That says something about
the 'circumtances' of the girls and perhaps about the perp, given the fact the
flops could have been lost or removed during the intervening months.
:banghead:
It's likely that the only tall grass that had to be navigated was at the very beginning of the walk into the woods and then in the clearing where they were found. Under the heavy tree canopy, there are usually plants but there's usually leaf litter around each plant. It's relatively open in the deep shade.[/quote]
I have very mixed feelings about this subject, having witnessed all kinds
of people wearing 'flip flops' or some variety of simple sandal, in combat,
fighting wars and going through grass and jungles and knee deep mud
running and maneuvering easily with them on! Yes Ive seen them fall off
people including kids just walking across the lawn in the neighborhood.
And 'yes' there are different kinds of 'flip flops' like the Walmart flop, the
Vietnamese knob-flops which only have a knob that fits in between toes
with no straps, then the Ho Chi Minh sandals with straps (very secure) ...
The girls didnt hesitate to peddle their bikes with them on. The fact they
left in their flops on then were found with their flops (on?) ... I dont know
how much one can or should read into this ... except that they were
present for some reason from beginning to end ? That says something about
the 'circumtances' of the girls and perhaps about the perp, given the fact the
flops could have been lost or removed during the intervening months.
:banghead:
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CF is now posting on the FB page that has his mugshot...strange. His language matches a lot of the others there, stay classy CF
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