NY - human body parts found near a popular park in Babylon, Long Island, 28 Feb 24.

[LadyL]

Unless there's a new serial killer on the loose, this screams gang violence to me. JMO

really? I thought they usually just shoot each other and let the bodies lay where they fall
I fear a serial killer ...

 

[iusedtofloat]

really? I thought they usually just shoot each other and let the bodies lay where they fall
I fear a serial killer ...

yeah, this is often the case, unless there's additional "challenges" to prove yourself or whatever

 

[investigatefred]

really? I thought they usually just shoot each other and let the bodies lay where they fall
I fear a serial killer ...

Gangs like MS13 get pretty grisly. They are well known to mutilate, dismember, and even set victims on fire. They're not your average "drive-by" type gang, they are very brutal to send a "message".

 

[dotr]

rbbm

Female head, man's arms found amid discovery of other body parts in Babylon

A female head, leg and arm and two male arms have been found. Autopsies are underway to determine the identities of the victims.

abc7ny.com

It is believed that the female body parts are that of an adult woman.''
''At a Friday morning press conference, detectives said the condition of the remains suggests they had not been in the park long - maybe a few days or even hours.''

''The ages of the victims are unknown, but investigators said they were adults.
Police say the male arms have tattoos on them, so they are searching through databases for a possible match''.
'They do believe a car may have been involved in dumping the remains.'
"We've had issues in the past of finding bodies or a body but to see this happening now twice is shocking," Babylon resident Joanna Higgins said.

Higgins lives a few blocks away and remembers back in 2018, when human remains were discovered by an arena near Ralph and North Railroad Avenue. It turned out to be a gang related murder.''

 

[x_files]

Amazing development. Wonder what's behind it, don't you? Wonder if there are significant similarities to other Long Island body parts? Also wonder IF this is same guy from earlier LISK killings, also parts found on Long Island Parkway near Gilgo Four, who doesn't want RH getting credit for one of his kills? I suggest taking cadaver dogs back to Ocean Parkway, just in case he's deposited something there to confirm the connection . . . It'll be interesting to watch this develop.

Multiple serial killer dumping ground? or a general dumping ground?

 

[lightofmine99]

I think this could be anything. I'm leaning towards gang and/or drug trade related violence (as others have pointed out, there are many gangs particularly more grisly) or perhaps a budding serial killer. Aside from a weak attempt at ID removal (fingerprints) they didn't make a great effort to conceal the remains.

 

[CuriousCricket]

Multiple serial killer dumping ground? or a general dumping ground?

That's "sort of" been the question about Ocean Parkway for more than a decade now, hasn't it? The Gilgo 4 were similar enough to always be a group while the others have been questioned.

After Rex Heuermann was charged with Maureen Brainard Barnes's death, I looked at the differences between her and the other 3 GB4 and concluded it was part of RH fancying himself a "troubleshooter" and a "solver of problems" which might account for the change in MO from dismemberment to whole remains disposal as his needs to hide victims' identity (internet hookup instead of street), and acquisition of the Avalanche for better concealment during transport of remains, etc. plus perhaps he was injured in one of those accidents and physically could not do as much work as before.

Besides, with all the remains discovered along Ocean Parkway, RH who worked there in his youth and was very familiar with the desolation, could easily drive through and keep an eye on things, basking in his remembrances. However, maybe other killers were attracted to the area for the same reasons and not all the remains discovered "belong" to RH.

However, with these two new sets of limbs . . . . male and female -- different from before. So possibly new killer(s). Why near two schools. I get it's a "park" or government-owned and operated property as were the earlier LISK remains. Could this possibly be a new kill from a killer from 20 years+ ago who doesn't want RH to receive credit for his own body count? Or as mentioned above --- completely unrelated to earlier murders?

 

[Kamiko123132]

they had not been in the park long - maybe a few days or even hours.''

If it was a few days or even hours The killer prob just put the body parts around but if that’s true most likely whoever did that killed both of them and It had to be related to some type of fight or something But that also they could put some other body parts around the place really do feel sorry for that little girl for having to see that.

 

[iamshadow21]

Multiple serial killer dumping ground? or a general dumping ground?

Well, it's a fact that there are multiple known, convicted serial killers who were operating on Long Island in recent memory. That isn't in dispute.

Long Island serial killer - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

How many unknown serial killers, and which victims they were responsible for out of the rest is up for debate. As is whether victims whose killers have not been identified (or whose bodies have not been found) are actually victims of known or unknown serial killers.

Are all the murder victims on Long Island the victims of serial killers? Of course not. But it seems to be a place people choose to dispose of murder victims, probably in large part because of the history of the area as a hot spot for serial killer activity (in particular the disposal of victims, especially ones who have been dismembered).

MOO

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Suffolk County Police Det. Lt. Kevin Beyrer said that the body parts had appeared to be there maybe a few days if not hours, WNBC reported.

Body parts of man, woman found by park in Long Island

Officials say it appears that body parts may have been there a few days if not a few hours.

www.kiro7.com

 

[Sleuthin_NY]

considering they removed fingertips, I'm surprised they didn't mutilate the tattoo beyond recognition

We’ve been talking about this in our crime analysis class and our professor said it’s becoming more and more common for finger tips to be removed. Not necessarily to hinder identification but because of the possible dna that can be found under the finger nails.

 

[dotr]

We’ve been talking about this in our crime analysis class and our professor said it’s becoming more and more common for finger tips to be removed. Not necessarily to hinder identification but because of the possible dna that can be found under the finger nails.

Welcome to Ws @Sleuthin_NY!
True, maybe somebody is walking around town with scratches,.. speculation.

 

[LadyL]

Gangs like MS13 get pretty grisly. They are well known to mutilate, dismember, and even set victims on fire. They're not your average "drive-by" type gang, they are very brutal to send a "message".

yikes
how do we live in a society like this

 

[LadyL]

We’ve been talking about this in our crime analysis class and our professor said it’s becoming more and more common for finger tips to be removed. Not necessarily to hinder identification but because of the possible dna that can be found under the finger nails.

omg I hadn't even thought of that!
unreal
welcome to WS!

 

[LadyL]

That's "sort of" been the question about Ocean Parkway for more than a decade now, hasn't it? The Gilgo 4 were similar enough to always be a group while the others have been questioned.

After Rex Heuermann was charged with Maureen Brainard Barnes's death, I looked at the differences between her and the other 3 GB4 and concluded it was part of RH fancying himself a "troubleshooter" and a "solver of problems" which might account for the change in MO from dismemberment to whole remains disposal as his needs to hide victims' identity (internet hookup instead of street), and acquisition of the Avalanche for better concealment during transport of remains, etc. plus perhaps he was injured in one of those accidents and physically could not do as much work as before.

Besides, with all the remains discovered along Ocean Parkway, RH who worked there in his youth and was very familiar with the desolation, could easily drive through and keep an eye on things, basking in his remembrances. However, maybe other killers were attracted to the area for the same reasons and not all the remains discovered "belong" to RH.

However, with these two new sets of limbs . . . . male and female -- different from before. So possibly new killer(s). Why near two schools. I get it's a "park" or government-owned and operated property as were the earlier LISK remains. Could this possibly be a new kill from a killer from 20 years+ ago who doesn't want RH to receive credit for his own body count? Or as mentioned above --- completely unrelated to earlier murders?

he had accidents?

 

[dotr]

 

[lightofmine99]

We’ve been talking about this in our crime analysis class and our professor said it’s becoming more and more common for finger tips to be removed. Not necessarily to hinder identification but because of the possible dna that can be found under the finger nails.

I hadn't thought about that. However it does not prevent the victim from ultimately being identified at some point, and nails aren't the only way a killer's DNA would wind up on the victim.

 

[whiterhino]

I hadn't thought about that. However it does not prevent the victim from ultimately being identified at some point, and nails aren't the only way a killer's DNA would wind up on the victim.

FWIW IMO cutting off fingertips could prob take as much time as cleaning them would. Or other methods. JMO.

 

[iamshadow21]

FWIW IMO cutting off fingertips could prob take as much time as cleaning them would. Or other methods. JMO.

Depends on your technique. A good pair of kitchen scissors would probably be able to remove them very quickly.

MOO

 

[CuriousCricket]

he had accidents?

Car accidents. And from what I'm remembering, he was quick to sue. One I found particularly interesting was a shoulder injury, followed by surgery. I believe that was in the neighborhood of 2005. Knowing how slowly shoulder injuries heal and how painful they are, I've wondered if perhaps that influenced some of the changes in his MO.

Car crashes to workers' comp: Court records offer glimpse into Gilgo Beach murder suspect's past

News 12 is learning more about Gilgo Beach murder suspect Rex Heuermann through court documents that range from workers' compensation to car accidents - not far from where the victims' bodies were discovered.

bronx.news12.com

Long Island murders suspect had history of tax issues and lawsuits

A New York architect pleaded not guilty Friday after he was charged with six counts of murder in connection with the deaths of three of the four women known as the "Gilgo Four."

edition.cnn.com