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Exhaustive efforts and man hours were put into searching for Caylee Anthony and she was practically in the backyard of the Anthony home the entire time. Just because they haven't found Michelle yet, even in an close to an area they have already searched, does not mean that they wont. Hindsight is often 20 20 in these things.

I agree, however it does make more sense to search where you haven't already.
 
Exhaustive efforts and man hours were put into searching for Caylee Anthony and she was practically in the backyard of the Anthony home the entire time. Just because they haven't found Michelle yet, even in an close to an area they have already searched, does not mean that they wont. Hindsight is often 20 20 in these things.

Sorry should have been more clear. I was referring to pinning this on Dale more than finding Michelle. I personally don't think she will be found anytime soon.
 
Notes: Helpful observations, and information with some official verification that may help toward resolution
Verified: Answered using official verification (may include supplemental evidence)
Value of point/question (by consensus):
A-C, with A being most important;
D = unsleuthable


1. Name and address of the twins’ daycare facility. A,D NOTES: Daycare for twins may be a sitter, Amanda Pinner 12710 Parkbury Dr, Orlando--Waterford Lakes area, who self-identified as the twins sitter on website Michelle Loree Parker...Inside & Out http://www.facebook.com/groups/354540607906926/. However, we don’t have confirmation that she was sitting the twins the day MP went missing.


2. Time when MP picked up the twins from daycare on 11/17/11. B Notes: Picked up sometime between 2:30 and 3:18 PM Unconfirmed witness report places MP on 208 exiting at Alafaya around 3 PM.


3. What time did MP’s Hummer leave DS II’s condo? A Notes: Hummer left sometime between 3:18 PM and 10:06 PM. Suggestion is that Hummer shown leaving at 5:15 PM may be MP’s Hummer.


4. Eyewitness or video of above? A (video) C (eyewitness) Notes: Suggestion is that RG’s surveillance vid does show Hummer leaving, perhaps 5:15 PM vehicle


5. When did DS II leave the condo in his own vehicle? A Notes: Suggestion that we have no evidence of DS II driving his own vehicle at all that day. (andalso, 1/6/12)


6. Did DS II know about RG’s video camera, e.g., did RG ever discuss the camera with DS II? A Notes: The camera is in plain view on the balcony, as seen in photo taken 12/4 by AlwaysWright http://s1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa378/AlwaysWright01/?action=view&current=December4822.jpg. (4BB)


7. Did others in DS Sr.’s neighborhood see vehicles arriving and leaving on 11/17/11 afternoon? A Notes: MN says that someone was a witness to DS II and the twins being at Rose Ave. house “by 4:30.” We do not know the nature of this observation (i.e. what vehicle DS II drove, whether the witness saw only a vehicle with the twins and not DS II, etc.).


8. Location MP’s cell pinged for 4:26 PM “Waterford” text to brother. A Notes: Phone was said to have pinged in area of S. Orange Ave. and W. Sand Lake Rd, but we know neither the time of that ping, nor whether is was the Waterford text. http://www.cfcrimeline.com/most_recent.htm; Hoffner Rd. moving west of Semoran has been mentioned for MP cell ping at “about 4:30,” but no more specific location, and no confirmation that this was the “Waterford” ping. http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/new...o-of-michelle-parker-from-day-she-disappeared and http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Fa...arker-s-birthday/-/1637132/8455176/-/pj560l/- (captdj, BreathLife21, 1/21/12) See question #170.


9. When was MP supposed to meet boyfriend NM for dinner on 11/17? Notes: Suggestion is, sometime between about 4 PM and 7:00 PM.


10. Phone calls from MP’s family to DS II: (A) when did MP’s sister LE call DS II on 11/17/11 B-, and (B) what time did YS call DS II 11/17/11 evening? A


11. Phone numbers (i.e. cell or land line at condo or Rose Ave.) and times for above calls, by (A) Sister LE B-, and (B) YS ? A


12. If Mrs. DS Sr. (TS) answered the call from YS, what did she say to YS in reference to why DS II couldn’t come to the phone? A Notes: Reports state that TS did answer when YS tried to call DS II. Suggestion from unlocated news story that TS told YS that DS II and DS Jr. had gone out back.


13. When did DS II return YS’s call, from what number, and, if his cell, from what location? A


14. When did LE first contact DS II, and how? A Notes: We are still awaiting confirmation that LE searched DS II’s condo on 11/17; thus far, the only confirmed date we have for a search is 11/18, and we still don’t know when and how first contact was made.


15. Did LE search DS II’s condo on evening of 11/17/11, and if so, when did DS II return to his condo from Rose Ave. evening of 11/17/11 to meet LE? A Notes: DS II posted statement on Facebook at 11:08 PM saying that LE had just searched his condo. Presumption is that LE may have made a quick visit to the condo that evening.


16. When he returned, were the twins with him, or did he leave them at DS Sr.’s house? C


17. Was MP’s cell on the entire time up until it was powered down the evening of 11/17/11, and if it was powered on the entire time, was it moving around constantly (like in a car), or static in one or more locations? What locations have been noted for her cell between 3:18 PM and when it was powered down? Notes: cell is said to have pinged in the vicinity of Sand Lake Rd and Orange Ave., time unknown, and source unverified; cell was reportedly found under Nela bridge. A report on 11/18/11 stated that LE had said the cell phone was turned off manually after MP had seen DS II, but did not indicate a specific time http://www.wdbo.com/news/news/local/police-search-missing-woman-car-found/nFhJ6/ (pias, 2/4/12); see question #8 for more ping location information.


18. Additional unreleased videos or other electronic evidence to track the route of MP’s Hummer after 3:18 PM on 11/17/11 (including OnStar, even if it was inactive). Notes: Helpful information and links explaining EPass--http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7430815&postcount=400 (Sparky, 12/12/11); there is a traffic cam at or near the intersection of Goldenrod and Lee Vista. http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news/2011/january/199877


19. Additional unreleased eyewitness accounts of Hummer movements around town after 3:18 PM.


20. Details of search warrant for DS Sr.'s house on Rose Ave (i.e. probable cause, etc). Notes: Speculation that reason given for raid was marijuana cultivation on the property.


21. Relative to MP’s boyfriend NM: (A) What is NM’s alibi for 11/17/11 afternoon, and where was he during the times in question? (B) Where does he live/work? Notes: According to Facebook, he works at United Rentals as a field service tech. in Orlando. He was lives in Deltona.


22. Who else called or texted MP on 11/17/11 between 2:30 PM and 3:18 PM?


23. Did MP send or receive any texts or make or receive any calls to/from DS II on 11/16 or on 11/17/11 before 3:18 PM?


24. Was DS II’s cell on the entire time, and if it was, what locations have been noted for his cell after 3:18 PM on 11/17/11?


25. Does DS Sr. own a cell? If so, was his cell on the entire time, and what locations have been noted for his cell after 3:18 PM on 11/17/11?


26. What if any evidence did LE find in and on the Hummer?


27. What fingerprints were on MP's Hummer and her purse and belongings, and where were these located in and on the Hummer when it was found?


28. If Dale's prints were found in her Hummer, does he frequently get in her car?


29. Was the Hummer driver's seat set for MP or someone taller?


30. (A) Were all the Hummer mirrors adjusted to the seat level? (B) Whose fingerprints were on the mirror(s)?


31. Was the Hummer recently washed?


32. Did the floor mats and wheel wells of the Hummer or other DS II/Sr. vehicles have any type of dirt, mud, or material that would possibly match up with a body of water, woods, or overgrown areas?


33. What if any evidence did LE find at the Rose Ave. house and in any vehicles at the house?


34. Did LE search DS II’s work van, truck, and any other of his vehicles?


35. Did LE check DS II’s trash inside and out?


36. For assumed 11/17/11 search of DS II’s condo, who arrived at the condo for the search first: LE or DS II?


37. If LE was there first, did DS II arrive in his truck & pull into the garage or did someone else drive him, and who?


38. If DS II was already there when LE arrived, (A) were there any other vehicles or persons there with him, and (B) did LE check the hood temps of vehicles parked at the condo?


39. Does DS II own a bicycle, or have access to one at the Rose Avenue house?


40. Confirm ownership of various white vans that appear in RG’s video, in TP’s later interview with RG, in AlwaysWright’s photos, and in survey photos from the tax appraiser website. NOTES: Interview shows larger white van in DS II’s driveway (Chevy?), white van shown in RG’s video appears to be different make (Dodge?) (Cerebellum, 12/4); the taillights and door handles are different (Kimb103, 12/4) Pictures comparing DS II’s van and van parked on street in RG’s vid show door handle difference Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #16 (Sparky, 12/29/11); DS II’s van has taillights on the upper rear, van parked on street has taillights on lower half of rear Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #16 (captdj, TexasLil 1/5/12); suggestion that the van arriving at 3:18 PM and parked on the street could be an older model Chevy cargo van Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #16 Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #16 (Kamille, 1/9/12) Survey picture and AlwaysWright’s picture show what appear to be two different white vans parked in the right side of DS II’s driveway. Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #16 (Lark2, 1/7/12); more ideas about the makes and models of the white vans: van parked on street in surveillance vid is Dodge Ram, van parked in DS II’s driveway in AlwaysWright’s photos is GMC Savannah. (?) Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #16 (Sleuth Decay, 1/9/12).Lower left timestamp for the RG surveillance camera image is 16:25 according to TP Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #9


41. (A) Did DS II have his own car seats for the twins, or did DS II and MP share car seats? (B) Did LE account for all child car seats owned by the families on both sides?


42. Did the Hummer have child car seats when found?


43. Did/will LE search bodies of water near the parking lot where the Hummer was found?


44. Would it be possible and effective for LE to use heat sensors from helicopters, at night, to help in searches?


45. Has LE used or will they use metal detectors to aid in finding the cell phone during searches? Notes: LE located cell; see #78 for new questions


46. Where is DS II’s unit located within the condo, especially with respect to his neighbor RG’s camera? Verified: Orange County property records http://www.ocpafl.org/ indicate address as 6598 S. Goldenrod unit 97C, photos of DS II’s condo http://s1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa378/AlwaysWright01/ show that unit C (DS II’s unit) is the right hand unit, RG lives on the left side unit, and RG’s camera captures his parking area and a portion of the street to the northeast of his side of the unit (AlwaysWright, 12/4)


47. If Carter Glen (DS II’s condo complex) has cameras or other devices at the north and south entrances and exits to the complex, did one or more capture any images or records of MP’s Hummer arriving and/or leaving on 11/17/11, along with time of arrival and departure? NOTES: The gates to the complex are closed and require one of the following: (1) Enter a specific code to open gate (Guests given code by Homeowner); (2) Card or Gate Opener to open gate (Homeowner); (3) Use the directory to contact Homeowner so they can buzz you in using phone; (4) Follow a car that has been granted access. (AlwaysWright, 12/5) Carter Glen resident said that cameras at entrance to condos had captured an image of the Hummer leaving—time unknown—without the decals. Always Wright visited the condos and noted a stand for a video camera at the entrances along with signage in the complex that the area is under surveillance. Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #14 (AlwaysWright, 12/15)


48. Did Carter Glen cameras or other devices capture any images or records of DS II’s vehicles arriving or leaving on 11/17/11 and 18, along with time of arrival and departure? Notes: See comments to #47


49. Did Carter Glen cameras or other devices capture any images or records of DS II’s family's or friends' vehicles arriving or leaving on 11/17/11? Notes: See comments to #47


50. Does DS Sr. have restrictions or physical disabilities that prevent him from being able to drive?


51. Did DS II spend the night of 11/17/11, after the supposed LE search, at his condo?


52. What time did DS II leave his condo for work on Friday, 11/18/11?


53. What vehicle was he driving from his condo on 11/18/11 AM?


54. Did he make any stops to load work materials, change vehicles, etc. before leaving Orlando area, and if so, where?


55. What route did he take to reach Titusville Palm Bay? Notes: Updated information that DS II had a job in Palm Bay instead of Titusville on Friday, 11/18/11.


56. What time did he arrive at his work destination in Titusville Palm Bay?


57. Address of work destination inTitusville Palm Bay? See #163 for suggested work area for DS II on November 18.


58. What evidence has LE found at any warehouses, storage facilities, or other properties to which DS II or Sr. has access? Notes: Some properties owned by DS Jr. and Sr. now or in the past include 1982 Rose Blvd Home; 1984 Allied Roofing bORN - Listed as Rose Blvd Address; 2002 Lot & Unit at Sky Lake; 2005 Property off of Church St. no address just legal desc; 2005 Property at Pineway Drive - Sold the same year as acquired; 2007 Another property and unit on Sky Lake ; 2008 Condo in Carter Glen (Angelonline, 12/04, per Orange Co Comptroller Records); http://paarcgis2.ocpafl.org/ObliqueView/default.aspx?pid=292229000000174 property at S. Mission Rd. off 526 belonging to DS Sr. (Cerebellum, 12/7); LE search canal behind house owned by DS Sr. at 6806 Chaucer Ln. (occupied by DS Sr’s sister according to neighbors) on 12/9. Map of parcels owned by DS Sr. http://paarcgis.ocpafl.org/Webmap2/...2322620803130|292326808707920|302323120597030 (Coldpizza, 12/9)


59. In the days or weeks prior to 11/17/11, did MP express to friends or family members any apprehension about or annoyance with someone she encountered at her workplace or elsewhere? Any evidence of a “secret admirer” or stalker? NOTES: MP’s sister LE said that she was not aware of MP having any sort of stalker in her years bartending. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1111/21/ijvm.01.html (SleuthDecay, 5/28/12)


60. Does MP have a storage unit, and has this been checked for evidence by LE?


61. Stills from RG’s video show two different dark SUV vehicles leaving at two different times on 11/17/11, ie 17:17 and 16:40 (5:17 PM and 4:40 PM). LE has reported that the Hummer leaving on the video at 16:40 belongs to a neighbor on the street, not MP. Is the other departing vehicle a Hummer, and does it belong to MP or to yet another neighbor? NOTES: Hummer leaving at 16:40 appears to be a dark grey color (notmissing, 12/04) Black SUV leaving at 17:17 has a license plate centered on the back, which is different license plate placement than MP’s Hummer, which is left rear (SmoothOperator, 12/6) Photos of 08 Hummers confirm the plates to be on the left rear. MP’s Hummer is thought to be an 08. (Taagean & SmoothOperator 12/6); Original video Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #15 and correction statement by MSN Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #15 (Sparky, 12/29/11); Post by Tony Pipitone about correction Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #4 Suggestion that what appears to be a centered plate on :the vehicle departing at 17:17 may actually be the road between left back and left front tires. (4BB, 1/3/12)


62. Activities, times, locations and other details, including calls and texts, demeanor, conversation topics, etc., of MP’s day on 11/17/11, beginning when she arises and ending with 3:18 PM arrival at DS II’s condo. Notes: SmoothOperator’s most recent timeline can be found in the first post of the newest MP thread; 12:22 video of MP at KFC drivethru at 12:22 on 11/17/11 http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news...parker-missing-video-20120120,0,6141764.story. YS told ABC News that when MP had returned from taping PC in the summer, she described it as “The most humiliating experience of my life” that she wouldn’t ever want to see the episode and regretted having gone. http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/11/22/idUS47066531120111122; the following clip indicates Lauren and Michelle talked about the show before she left the salon on 11/17. Geraldo quotes sister LE as telling him 20 mins before going on air that they were in the salon together, and MP started getting text messages. That is when sister LE started expressing her concern to MP: "I told her she's a pretty girl, a head turner, and what if someone watches and stalks you? I definitely worried about Michelle's safety around Dale, the husband, because he was malicious and violent when he got drunk. He's the last one to see her alive. He knows more than he is telling, but someone other than Dale must have been involved.” http://video.foxnews.com/v/1314859215001/geraldo-calls-out-missing-mom-suspect. MP texted her sister LE that she and YS were going shoe shopping. MSM report confirms this shopping trip http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/military-records-missing-moms-ex-fiance-show-viole/nFkjX/ and MP mentions it in an MSM video (link needed) (SleuthDecay, 5/29/12)


63. In the video of the condo search, DS II’s truck is in the garage. Where is DS II's work van at that time?


64. When did MP and NM meet face to face on 11/17/11, and when did they talk or text one another on their cells that day, other than the 3:15 text? Notes: NM and MP met for coffee in AM, time unknown.


65. When did NM try to contact MP (text or call her cell) after 3:18 PM on 11/17/11?


66. If incoming white van as recorded by RG’s video, (subsequently parked on the street) is that of a neighbor or visitor to the condos, what did the driver of that van observe relative to MP, DS II, the twins, MP’s Hummer?


67. Did MP have any mobile tanning appointments on 11/17/11, and when? With new or established customers?


68. DS II’s visitation with the twins: (A) Did DS II have regularly scheduled visitation? (B) Was 11/17/11 a scheduled visitation day for him to take the twins? (C) If not, what are the details of how and when this visitation was arranged?


69. Where did MP park the Hummer when she was dropping off the twins at DS II’s? Notes: RG's vid indicates that the incoming Hummer was driving in middle of road (perhaps to avoid the red car parked at the north curb), and may not have been able to pull into the garage driveway. Suggestion is that she may have parked to the west of the condo.


70. Was DS II’s garage open, or did MP go to the front door of the condo?


71. What vehicles were parked inside or in the driveway of DS II’s garage, or at the curb, when MP arrived to drop off the twins?


72. Has LE searched or will they search (A)Titusville Palm Bay areas, and (B)possible route(s) from Orlando to Titusville Palm Bay, and what evidence was found, if any? Notes: See #165 for (A)


73. What time did MP’s 11 year old son arrive home from school on 11/17/11? Notes: MP’s sister LE said that the child usually got off the bus at around 3:30 PM


74. Did he try calling his mom, and what time(s) did he try calling her? Notes: MP’s sister LE said that the child usually called his mother when he got off the school bus.


75. Did anyone attempt to call or text MP between 3:18 and 4:26 on 11/17/11?


76. DS II’s neighbor with the cam, RG, was not home when MP arrived, and says he saw nothing when he did arrive home. What time did RG arrive home?


77. Other than DS II’s mother and father, who else received subpoenas as of 12/6?


78. Where, when and how was MP’s cell found? NOTES: On 12/7, LE released news that MP’s cell was found, thrown in the water near Lake Conway from a bridge, although which of two possible bridges is uncertain at this time; Bob Kealing identifies correct bridge as on Nela 12/9 ( ?) News report suggests that cell wasn’t found due to one specific tip Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #13 (JerseyGirl, 12/13) and at end of video: http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/loc....ichelle-parker; Photos of both bridges, with Nela Bridge brush appearing more disturbed Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #14 (AlwaysWright); cell may have been in the brush, not the water. Posting on Marinade Dave’s journal where he tells of YS pointing out on a map where the phone was found. Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #17 (captdj, Kamille, 1/12/12). BP said on NG show 1/23/12 that phone was found simply by searching bodies of water along route DS II may have taken to Rose Ave. house


79. On which side of the bridge was the cell found, to help determine direction car was traveling? NOTES: May be difficult to determine no matter the direction of the vehicle, since driver could toss out of driver's side window, or driver or passenger could toss out of passenger window. The phone was found on the northwest side of the bridge Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #17 (captdj, Kamille, 1/12/12).


80. What, if any, is the forensic evidence recovered from the cell?


81. What data, if any, was recovered from the cell?


82. Did MP attempt to call eleven y o son around 3:30 on, on 11/17/11?


83. Details of dumpster trash collection (ie, days and times) for dumpsters along the known or assumed route of the perp and/or accomplices, including significant locations such as Jesse Black’s Saloon, Carter Glen Condos, etc. Have the associated landfills been searched, and evidence found?


84. In respect to DS II’s reported presence at the Rose Ave. house: (A) did DS II take the twins to DS Sr.’s house on 11/17/11, (B) at what time and in what vehicle did he leave his condo with the twins and arrive at the Rose Ave. house, (C) who was the witness who confirmed he arrived “by” 4:30, and (D) what did this witness actually observe about the arrival? Notes: MN, attorney for DS II and DS Sr., said that a witness can verify that DS II had arrived at the Rose Ave. house by 4:30 PM. http://www.wesh.com/r/29958175/detail.html (Analyze This).


85. Did DS II have a standard routine when he had the twins, and if so, did his actions/movement on 11/17/11 afternoon vary from that routine?


86. Will or have the twins been interviewed by LE, and if interviewed, what observations did they offer about what they remember from 11/17/11? Notes: The Today Show reports twins removed from DS II’s home, questioned by LE, spent the night with Parker’s mom and were returned to DS II the following day after the hearing about custody. http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45490...-dad-tv-show-disappearance-case/#.Tw3kQfkrc7l (Pias, 12/30/11).


87. Did LE search DS II’s condo on evening of 11/18/11 (Fri). If so, details of search. Notes: MSM states that they were present and filming at the 11/18/11 search of DS II’s condo.


88. Details of where and when cadaver dogs have been used in this case, with evidence obtained. Notes: MP’s father, when talking about the raid on the Rose Ave. house, mentioned that dogs were used, and “they didn’t come up with nothing,” but there’s no indication these were cadaver dogs http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news...ovember/349745 (TexasLil, 1/11/12)


89. Was the spare tire cover gone when the Hummer was found by LE?


90. Does DS II have a current girlfriend?
 
Notes: Helpful observations, and information with some official verification that may help toward resolution
Verified: Answered using official verification (may include supplemental evidence)
Value of point/question (by consensus):
A-C, with A being most important;
D = unsleuthable


91. Is it possible that a cell phone could stay on a significant length of time, even when underwater? Notes: An early news report quoted LE as stating that “her cellphone was manually shut off after she saw her ex-boyfriend” http://www.wdbo.com/news/news/local/police-search-missing-woman-car-found/nFhJ6/ While this likely indicates that the phone was shut off right before being tossed over the Nela bridge, we don’t have absolute confirmation about the time LE was referencing with this information.


92. When did MP last gas up the Hummer?


93. Could car have been gassed up by perp? Paper trail?


94. Use of odometer reading and/or fuel level and mileage of Hummer to determine how far it was driven after 3:18 PM on 11/17/11.


95. Where did MP live, and with whom? Verified: The family, including MP, lives on a few acres in Geneva, FL. Rural and very nice. (Sparky, 12/11) They live on Guy Court in Seminole County. (Fact Finder, 12/14)


96. Who is the owner of the Chevy Impala with either an open or bent trunk, shown in photos of DS II’s condo (http://s1194.photobucket.com/albums/aa378/AlwaysWright01/ taken by AlwaysWright on 12/4)? Notes: Has Mass. Plate. Exmp pictured at http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/12/=“green”_license_p.html (Cerebellum); plates seem to read 100-ATE ( Misfitdolly) or possibly 100-AYE (Pias, 12/29/11).


97. What kind of keychain/keyfob did MP have? Any special features? Notes: video of Michelle holding her keyfob, although unknown if this was her most recent keyfob http://www.wftv.com/videos/news/team-coverage-developments-in-missing-mom-case/vFMKR


98. How many sets of keys existed for the Hummer, and did DS II have a set?


99. Was the Hummer locked when finally located by LE? Does the Hummer have an automatic lock (locking after a time)?


100. Was the “Waterford” text an auto-correct fail?


101. What type of decal was the Glow decal on the Hummer rear window—static cling or adhesive?


102. Alligator behavior with remains. NOTES: Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #13 and Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #13 (Swamp Mama, 12/13) Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #13 (Reality Orlando, 12/14)


103. Did LE take DS II’s computer and cell, and what evidence was obtained from these? Notes: YS and MN told MSM that DS II had voluntarily surrendered his computers to LE. (No confirmation on the cell.)


104. Was MP’s tanning equipment in the Hummer when it was found, and was the equipment intact?


105.When LE found the Hummer: (A) what personal or family items were not found inside, and (B) what family belongings still remained? Notes: (A) Michelle’s jewelry and clothing (cross necklace, ring, watch, blue hoodie, white t-shirt, jeans, and flip flops) are assumed to not be with the Hummer, since these items were described as clues in the search for Michelle herself. LE reported that Michelle’s keys and cell phone weren’t in the Hummer (Source link needed) (B) Michelle’s handbag and CD case were reported by LE to be found on the seat. (Source link needed)


106. Was MP’s wallet missing, in her handbag, or in the Hummer but separate from the handbag?


107. Does DS II still work for MASCO Cabinetry, located at 2901 Titan Row, Orlando? Verified: Tony Pipitone confirmed that this is DS II’s employer.Websleuths Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #13 another division (home services) on 8210 President’s Dr. (Lark2, 1/11/12). DS II was laid off from this job in January 2012.


108. Did DS II make any suspicious purchases prior to 11/17/11, i.e. a large cooler?


109. Any eyewitness accounts or other evidence that DS II had visitors other than MP and twins before, at, or soon after 3:18 on 11/17/11 at Carter Glen condos?


110. What has LE discovered about the activities of DS II’s close friends on 11/17/11? Notes: According to MSM film, male and female friends and family accompanied DS II to the custody hearing, and at Rose Ave. house afterwards, a female friend got into the passenger side of his truck.


111. Is LE viewing/using the unedited PC episode, for clues or insight? Would they consider subpoenaing the PC judge? NOTES: TPC website: http://peoplescourt.warnerbros.com/schedule.html PC15054 VTR (Video Tape Recording) DATE 10/15/11 Case # 21-112 Case Title: Throwing it all Away (1st of 3 for that date).


112. Is there a door into DS II’s condo from inside the garage? Verified: Layout of “C” unit condos shows access into the garage from the unit. Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #16 (TexasLil, 1/5/12).


113. What are DS II’s normal work hours and work days, and did he work on 11/17/11?


114. What are Michelle’s normal work hours and work days, both at the bar, and for other business activities, such as the tanning business and the salon?


115. Has LE explored the exchanges and relationship between DS II and MP before, during, and in the months after the PC episode was taped, and with what results?


116. Has LE considered any tie-in between MP’s disappearance and those of other missing women in the Orlando area? Have they rejected any connection, or still hold open the possibility?


117. Any confirmed eyewitness accounts or electronic evidence of DS Sr. and/or DS II moving/using a boat on or after 11/17/11? Notes: Rumor is that DS Sr.’s neighbor caught Sr.’s Hummer (?) with boat attached on video http://buckethead.realradio.fm/playe...l&mid=21627148


118. Has/will LE search the Bay Lake area, with adjacent small bodies of water and woods? Evidence obtained, if any.


119. Did MP have one or more tanning clients in the Walden Circle apartments (where the Hummer was found by LE)? Notes: Rumor only/has not been confirmed: website indicates that residents in the area had seen the Hummer with the airtanning decals parked near the spot where the Hummer was found by police 3 or 4 times before 11/17/11. Suggestion was that MP may have had tanning clients in the apartments. http://marinadedave.com/journal/2011...-michelle.html


120. If so, how many times had she visited Walden Circle client(s), and over what period of time?


121. If so, who, besides MP and the client(s) at Walden Circle, would have known of her visits there?


122. Would MP’s Hummer fit inside DS II’s garage? Was there room in his garage for the Hummer, considering any items stored there? Notes: According to poster on a Hummer forum, an H3 fits in a standard garage http://www.hummerforums.com/forum/hummer-h3-17/few-pics-my-ride-22554/#post240931 (post #8 and #9) (Cerebellum, 12/17)


123. Does DS Sr. own a Hummer, and what color? Impounded by LE, and any evidence obtained? NOTES: See #117; pictures of Rose Ave. house during LE raid show a dark SUV with a trailer hitch that is, perhaps, a Ford Explorer or Expedition Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #15 side note that comparison of this vehicle with the dark SUV captured on RG’s cam at 17:17 on 11/17/11 appear not to be the same vehicle (Kamille, Kimb103, and stg)


124. If DS Sr. owns a boat, was this impounded by LE, and any evidence obtained? Notes: Boat appears in Google satellite view of the Rose Ave. house. (Bern, 12/19)


125. Does MP have friends, acquaintances, clients, or prospective clients at the Carter Glen condos (condos where DS II lives)?


126. Will LE use or have they used side-scan sonar in the search? Notes: Several news sources report that this type of sonar was used in the search of the retention pond near to DS Sr.’s house on Rose Ave.


127. After the PC episode aired on 11/17/11, DS II was rumored to have posted comments on Facebook about the episode. If he did, what comments did he post, and when?


128. Did DS II ever have conversations in the past with friends and others where he talked about how/where to hide a body?


129. DS II is rumored to have lived in the Walden Circle area at some point in the past. Details?


130. Rural and/or secluded areas (woods, swamp, marsh, bodies of water, etc.) DS II had visited/was familiar with in the Orlando or surrounding area before 11/17/11. Notes: Star Wars fan flick was possibly filmed in woods near/on Stewart homestead in Geneva.


131. Is there any confirmation by one or more independent eyewitnesses that Michelle was actually driving the Hummer when it entered Carter Glen condos and was captured on film arriving at DS II’s unit at 3:18 PM?


132. (A) Evidence from any surveillance video at the twins’ daycare facility. (B) If video surveillance equipment was present but not working, how long had it been unavailable, and who might have known?


133. Has LE considered/explored the idea of the body being disposed of in Seminole County/the Geneva area, perhaps near the Guy Court property? Details of any searches in that area.


134. What were DS II’s typical parking habits at his condo and at the Rose Ave. house? Notes: In several photos, such as those by AlwaysWright on 12/4/11, aerial survey shots from Tax Appraiser’s website, and TP’s interview of RG, the white van was parked on the right side of DS II’s driveway. In pictures of the 11/18/11 LE visit to his condo, his burgundy truck was parked inside the garage, and survey shots show it parked on the left side of the driveway. (Kamille, 1/5/12)


135. Layout of DS II’s condo. Verified: He lives in condo C, which does not have a balcony over the garages. Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #15 (Cerebellum)


136. Is burnt orange car captured in a neighbor’s driveway in the surveillance vids the same vehicle as the one shown in pictures at DS Jr.’s Rose Ave house? NOTES: Screen captures of burnt orange vehicle in surveillance vid and of car parked at DS Sr.’s house. Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #15 (AlwaysWright 12/29/11); Comparison of the cars Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #15 (Sparky, 12/29/11) Burnt orange car at Rose Ave. is a Scion xD in a new color that marks it as a 2009 or later ( luvbug622); decal on Scion is Triforce Eagle Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #16 (Pias and Sparky, 12/5/12) Suggestion that vehicle at condos is not a Scion xD (Luvbug622, 1/7/12)

137. In tax appraiser website pictures, a burgundy truck is shown parked in the same driveway as the burnt orange car was on the surveillance vids. Does this burgundy truck belong to DS II? NOTES: Tax appraiser shots (Texas Lil, 12/29/11); AlwaysRight’s photo of DS II’s truck Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #15 (Sparky, 12/29/11); additional tax appraiser website shots showing the vehicles in question Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #15 (Sparky, 12/29/11); DS II’s truck likely to be a Ford 150 Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #17 (Jessieann, 1/19/12). Shot of DS II leaving court shows the truck as F150 (at end of video).


138. Does DS II know/have friendship with the person who lives in the condo unit associated with #136/7, or is the unit vacant? Notes: See question #143.


139. Will LE search for remains in/around Lake Conway, and if not, why not? Evidence from search, if any. Notes: Detwyler Bridge does not appear to be a possible dump site Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #16 (Sparky, 12/31/11).


140. Will LE search Lake Mary, adjacent to Oakridge Road? Evidence, if any.


141. DS II’s interests and hobbies beyond SciFi cons and Star Wars. Notes: May have acting interests, having appeared in three film shorts according to IMDB page http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2343749/.


142. Who are the owners/drivers of the various cars seen at DS II’s condo and DS Sr.’s Rose Ave. house? NOTES: Identification and differentiation of some of the vehicles Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #16 (4BB) Silver/Gray SUV was driven by DS Sr.’s wife, with DS Sr. riding, after custody court appearance. Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #16 (GrammaMaybe and Camille, 1/1/12) Silver/gray vehicle may be Ford Escape, dark SUV Ford Explorer, blue car with white strip Ford Mustang Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #16 and Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #16 (4BB, 1/1/12)


143. Identify address, ownership, and current occupancy status of the unit that includes the driveway referenced in question #136/7. NOTES: According to attached link, left-most parking space belongs to unit #98C at 6600 S. Goldenrod. http://www.floridapropertyonline.com/lis..../o5077455.html; owner may be home builder D R Horton Inc. or the Arnold family from Maryland. According to the website, the property is for rent, and is vacant at this time. More details in post Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #16 (TruthSleuth, 1/2/12).


144. Does DS II have any ties to the property management company, Reid Rental Management who manage both Carter Glen Condos and Walden Circle Complex? Notes: Property management companies often subcontract out a lot of work to maintain large properties. (Analyze This, 2/3/12).


145. Was there any contractor work being done in Carter Glen on 11/17 involving vacant units and waste management bins for disposal?


146. What clothes and shoes was DS II wearing on 11/17/11 and 11/18/11, and was LE able to retrieve these for testing? Results?


147. Job description of an HOA president? Access to keys, decision-making about security cameras, etc.? Notes: Some powers and responsibilities of an HOA president Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #16 (TexasLil, 1/5/12)


148. What types of vehicles are provided to Masco employees, and which of these vehicles does DS II use?


149. Is the white van parked in DS II’s driveway in AlwaysWright’s 12/4/11 photos personally owned, or owned by Masco? Notes: See also #40


150. Did NG’s surveillance camera capture any sound? Notes: post detailing the camera make and features. The camera appears to be a Swann model (ADW400) that can record sound, however it can be set to not record sound alone in order to save memory. Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #16 (Kamille, 1/9/12).


151. Where was DS II’s white van parked on the evening of 11/17/11 when LE visited?


152. Has/will LE searched the woods adjacent to Carter Glen Condos? Results?


153. Is any surveillance footage from RG’s camera available for days prior to 11/17/11, in order to compare DS II vehicles coming and going (to establish his routine)?


154. When did DS II last have visitation with the twins, and did Michelle bring them to the Carter Glen Condos on that occasion?


155. Did LE obtain evidence from any additional surveillance cameras that other Carter Glen Condo residents may have had installed? Notes: Other surveillance cams in the condo complex, on the road that runs adjacent to Lee Vista Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #16 (AlwaysWright, 1/7/12)


156. When did RG install his surveillance camera?


157. As to NG’s reason for installing the camera: (A) when and how was his car damaged, (B) was a police report filed, and (C) were there any POIs for the crime?


158. Was the incident common knowledge in the complex or within the HOA?


159. Identification of dark truck that is parked on the street near DS II’s condo (i.e. make, model, year, ownership, etc.) Notes: Truck seen in aerial survey shots from Tax Appraiser’s website. Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #16 (Lark2, 1/7/11). Possible GMC extended cab, or Ford Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #16 (wilksterette, 1/7/12)


160. What year and model is MP’s Hummer? Notes: Information has led us to believe that the Hummer is a 2008 H3. Recent documentation on Namus Missing Persons Database lists the Hummer as as a 2007 H3. https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/13054/0/ (Sparky, 1/10/12).


161. Information on the Namus Missing Person Database reveals that MP was last seen alive at 15:00/3 PM on 11/17/11. Where was she at this time, and how was she positively identified?


162. How many cell phone texts and calls did MP average a day, both those she sent and those she received?


163. What is the “very possible connection” that has led the search organizers to ask volunteers to meet in Palm Bay on Saturday, 1/14/12? NOTES: Group to meet at 10 AM at Lowe’s, 1166 Malibar Rd. to search wooded areas. http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/loca....,4176824.stor y (captdj, 1/13/12) “Family members told searchers that there were clues in Palm Bay that could lead to a break in the case” http://www.cfnews13.com/article/news...ve-to-Palm-Bay (Katydid, 1/15/12) Searchers weren’t able to search property in question because LE wanted to use dogs first, and warrants were an issue. DSII had reportedly worked in the area of Maribar Rd the day after MP’s disappearance. Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #17 (Einyroo, 1/15/12) Sister LE said that LE are interested in a construction site where “someone” worked Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #17 (sandina, 1/21/12)


164. What had occurred three months before MP’s disappearance that lead a Facebook contributor to speculate that said contributor could have understood something happening to her back then, but not when she finally did disappear? This Facebook remark was subsequently removed, though previously noted in WS. NOTES: Previous speculation was that the contributor may have been talking about the filming of the PC episode. Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #17 (Sparky, 1/15/12); suggestion that MP met NM three months before her disappearance, and this budding relationship may have been a problem for DS II. Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #17 (PJFL, 1/15/12).


165. Has LE searched in Palm Bay, at what location, and were dogs used in the search? Notes: BP said on the NG show 1/23/12 that the family told LE to go to Palm Bay and search; LE did search, but found nothing. (source link pending)


168. What was the origin of the rumor that DS II went to work in Titusville on 11/18/11? Notes: May have come from MP’s father when he was on NG show Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 - #17 (TexasLil, captdj 1/19/12).


169. What time did LE do their drive-by of DS II’s condo on 11/17/12, and what did they observe, i.e. what vehicles were parked near or by the condo? Notes: Reported that LE did not see MP's Hummer during that drive-by.


170. MP’s cell is reported by YS to have pinged on Hoffner Rd. at about 4:30PM on 11/17, west of Semoran. Was there evidence that the cell and Hummer were in the same place during those pings? Notes: YS alluded to the Hummer traveling west along Hoffner west of Semoran, and the phone pinging there at the same time. http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/new...o-of-michelle-parker-from-day-she-disappeared and http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Fa...arker-s-birthday/-/1637132/8455176/-/pj560l/- (captdj, BreathLife21, 1/21/12), another reporter referred to the pings as occurring in the “evening,” but gave no specific time. http://bit.ly/zq0pD2 (GrammaMaybe, 1/24/12)


171. Has LE used surveillance cams from any businesses along the ping routes of MP’s or DS II’s cell phones (or those of other possible participants)? Notes: Market near Hoffner and Semoran intersection has surveillance cams. Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - FL FL - Michelle Parker, 33, Orlando, 17 Nov 2011 #18 (BreatheLife21, 1/26/12).


172. Besides DS Sr. and his wife TS, who lives at the Rose Ave. house? Notes: Sister of DS II and her children are said to live there.


173. Who was at the Rose Ave. house the night of the raid? Notes: News reports indicate there were seven people present, including DS Sr., TS, DS II’s sister, the sister’s children, and two other unidentified people.


174. What is the tip that prompted the search on OBT on 2/1/12? Notes: Divers searched small lake and a nearby pond and canal behind a shuttered nightclub in the 4800 block of OBT http://www.wftv.com/news/news/local/divers-search-lake-clues-missing-michelle-parker-c/nHQ5D/; http://www.clickorlando.com/news/Di...ase/-/1637132/8576848/-/wae6hpz/-/index.html; http://www.wesh.com/news/30348575/detail.html (klh2502, nursebeeme, 2/1/12); Waterview Apartments are across from the search area. According to tweets from reporters, Lake Bumby was searched 2/1/12, not Lake Tyler as initially reported.


175. Has LE searched the “shuttered nightclub” Off The Wall, or will they? Notes: History and photos of the building http://urban-decay.livejournal.com/2391400.html (captdj, 2/1/12)


176. If MP went shoe shopping with YS earlier in the day on 11/17/11, did she buy herself any shoes, and did she leave these in the Hummer?


177. Was MP in the habit of carrying extra shoes in her Hummer, i.e. tennis shoes or flats?


178. What was DS II’s demeanor earlier in the day, before Michelle brought the twins to the condo, on 11/17/11; did it vary from his normal demeanor?


178. What was DS II’s demeanor on 11/18/11, as observed by anyone other than his family members; did it vary from his normal demeanor?


179. If coworkers and others talked with DS II on 11/18/11, what were the topics of conversation?


180. Since according to an eyewitness report, DS II arrived at the Rose Ave. house with the twins by 4:30 PM on 11/17/11, did he pull into the drive way to drop off the twins and leave the vehicle parked there, or pull through the gate around the back?


181. If he pulled through the gate and around back, was this his standard practice when bringing the twins to the Rose Ave. house?


182. Has anyone else related to this case (family, friends, etc.) taken a polygraph, or been asked to take one?


183. A news article from February 1, 2012 mentions that MP and DS II’s phones both pinged from a cell tower near to the 4800 block of S. Orange Blossom Trail on the night of November 17: “Nothing of value was discovered in the area along the 4800 block of S. Orange Blossom Trail, not far from where phones of both Parker and her ex-fiancé Dale Smith Jr. were pinged from a cell tower on the night Parker vanished.” http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/local/020112-divers-searching-for-michelle-parker#ixzz1v1FqTRCH Is this an inaccurate news story, or a valid lead in the case? (SleuthDecay, 5/16/12)


184. A news video showed a text from MP’s sister LE, texting a strongly-worded request for MP to answer her phone. What time did sister LE send this text? VERIFIED: Video footage shows texts from sister LE at 6:53 PM (already noted on timeline) and 9:38 PM on 11/17/11 (about 2:20 on the video) http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/45523049#45523049 (Sleuth Decay, Gia, 5/30/12)
 
Can't say that I disagree, but IMO this whole case is at a dead end and has been for months. Going over and over the same things is getting them no where.

So true... and don't forget the fbi has been involved for at least 2 months now and the involvement of the new special committee. They basically have nothing and are asking for help.

They should be looking elsewhere, coming up with new ideas, etc...

At this point I'm wondering if maybe the father did it with or without dsjr knowing.

Also don't discredit the fact that she worked in bars full of drunk guys hitting on her every day. Maybe one couldn't take the rejection. She drove around with business decals which basically made everyone take notice of her wherever she went. Orlando has a huge sex trafficking operation.
 
... Notes: Helpful observations, and information with some official verification that may help toward resolution
Verified: Answered using official verification (may include supplemental evidence)
Value of point/question (by consensus):
A-C, with A being most important;
D = unsleuthable


91. Is it possible that a cell phone could stay on a significant length of time, even when underwater? Notes: An early news report quoted LE as stating that “her cellphone was manually shut off after she saw her ex-boyfriend” http://www.wdbo.com/news/news/local/police-search-missing-woman-car-found/nFhJ6/ While this likely indicates that the phone was shut off right before being tossed over the Nela bridge, we don’t have absolute confirmation about the time LE was referencing with this information. ...

IMO To address most if not all of these questions one would have to be part of the investigating team or have first hand knowledge of their work progress.
 
I disagree. We are Sleuthers not LE. The list of questions has been a wonderful tool created and updated by Nobodynoz. We have used it over the last few months and I find it has a wealth of info. jmo
 
I agree with Sparky. There's a wealth on information contained in these questions and, in fact, there are answers contained here that have been asked by posters who recently joined the thread. For others here it refreshes our memory of the case. It's a very important tool to us Sleuthers.
 
So true... and don't forget the fbi has been involved for at least 2 months now and the involvement of the new special committee. They basically have nothing and are asking for help.

They should be looking elsewhere, coming up with new ideas, etc...

At this point I'm wondering if maybe the father did it with or without dsjr knowing.

Also don't discredit the fact that she worked in bars full of drunk guys hitting on her every day. Maybe one couldn't take the rejection. She drove around with business decals which basically made everyone take notice of her wherever she went. Orlando has a huge sex trafficking operation.

I said this before but of too many think it relavent that she worked in a bar. I'm really surprised that with all these people involved they can't find one good solid piece of evidence that Dale had anything to do with this. Either he's the best hit man I've seen or maybe they need to start looking elsewhere.
 
So true... and don't forget the fbi has been involved for at least 2 months now and the involvement of the new special committee. They basically have nothing and are asking for help.

They should be looking elsewhere, coming up with new ideas, etc...

At this point I'm wondering if maybe the father did it with or without dsjr knowing.

Also don't discredit the fact that she worked in bars full of drunk guys hitting on her every day. Maybe one couldn't take the rejection. She drove around with business decals which basically made everyone take notice of her wherever she went. Orlando has a huge sex trafficking operation.

Wow! You really think Dale Sr could have done this without Dale knowing? What motive did he have?
 
I'm on Dale's FB page right now and looking at some of his likes. Are we allowed to discuss these?
 
Wow! You really think Dale Sr could have done this without Dale knowing? What motive did he have?

Well he was the one researching disappearances. He makes jokes about michelle being missing. Maybe his motive was to have dsjr get custody of the twins. Maybe after michelle moved out of the condo it was unacceptable to him that she would have the twins. Never underestimate how far some parents would go to 'help' their children.

Maybe after researching how to make her disappear he knew his son would be blamed, but also knew there would be no evidence.

Anyway I'm just throwing an idea out there like everyone should be at this point.
 
I agree with Sparky. There's a wealth on information contained in these questions and, in fact, there are answers contained here that have been asked by posters who recently joined the thread. For others here it refreshes our memory of the case. It's a very important tool to us Sleuthers.

Ok may be I'm wrong, can anyone post any real answers to the questions?
 
I said this before but of too many think it relavent that she worked in a bar. I'm really surprised that with all these people involved they can't find one good solid piece of evidence that Dale had anything to do with this. Either he's the best hit man I've seen or maybe they need to start looking elsewhere.

Yes, I have known and dated many bartenders. The amount of scummy guys trying to get them to go home with them after the bar closes is unreal. The bartenders themselves tend to fall into 2 categories either really slutty, or they've bartended so long a guy hitting on them just makes them sick. There is always a new guy everyday. Dsjr was one of these guys perhaps even nm too, but beyond this are hundreds if not thousands of guys that she has turned down. In my mind this weighs just as heavily as dating an abuser. People that discredit the fact she worked in a bar just don't know like I do how relevant it can be.
 
Yes, I have known and dated many bartenders. The amount of scummy guys trying to get them to go home with them after the bar closes is unreal. The bartenders themselves tend to fall into 2 categories either really slutty, or they've bartended so long a guy hitting on them just makes them sick. There is always a new guy everyday. Dsjr was one of these guys perhaps even nm too, but beyond this are hundreds if not thousands of guys that she has turned down. In my mind this weighs just as heavily as dating an abuser. People that discredit the fact she worked in a bar just don't know like I do how relevant it can be.

I agree, many people who came in contact with MP might also have had the opportunity to kill her. Unfortunately one does not need a motive to kill, senseless killings happen all the time, and one might have a motive to kill that nobody is aware of it. One can envision so many scenarios.
 
Well he was the one researching disappearances. He makes jokes about michelle being missing. Maybe his motive was to have dsjr get custody of the twins. Maybe after michelle moved out of the condo it was unacceptable to him that she would have the twins. Never underestimate how far some parents would go to 'help' their children.

Maybe after researching how to make her disappear he knew his son would be blamed, but also knew there would be no evidence.

Anyway I'm just throwing an idea out there like everyone should be at this point.

So you could be right...but how would Sr have had the opportunity unless he was there at the condo when Michelle arrived...I can't rule him out but IMO he was either an accomplice during or helped afterward with the cleanup. There is also the possibility that Dale had a friend help and Dale's parents don't know much...I doubt it but it is possible.

Anyway...I still think Sr's research on the Powell case months before Michelle missing (around the time that the PC episode was taped) is quite possibly the evidence that this was premeditated to some degree and not just heat of the moment. JMO
 
I said this before but of too many think it relavent that she worked in a bar. I'm really surprised that with all these people involved they can't find one good solid piece of evidence that Dale had anything to do with this. Either he's the best hit man I've seen or maybe they need to start looking elsewhere.

I agree, I don't think he had time if planned or unplanned. Why do this on the day of the PC hearing if planned? You know LE will think it is him.

Day Light, with a camera is another thing that a planned hit would be crazy.
Doing at your own place, again crazy.
Doing this with the kids there to make it even more difficult to carry out.
Having to get rid of her hummer at your condo in the daylight, at the time people are coming home; again crazy.
The cell phone is another thing, it powered down at 8:08. Why not get rid of it right away? If he wasn't going to answer A's call, no reason to answer anyone's call, just get rid of it.
No DNA or evidence in hummer or his condo and I bet they checked his van and truck, again how did he do this in less than 45 minutes?

He had months to kill her over this ring, he could have done that instead of going to court. He could have done it the next day she toss it over the balcony. He got $2,500 for it from PC. He had plenty of time in this relationship to pick a better killing spot than his condo. The time frame for me doesn't add up and you can't get past the Hoffner ping and him being at Sr at the same time. They need to look at someone else IMO.
 
Ok may be I'm wrong, can anyone post any real answers to the questions?

Nobody's questions have been quite useful IMO. They have aided many discussions and launched several ideas and theories on this thread. By keeping an open mind in this case when you look at these questions they may help trigger some ideas that could help us find Michelle. I suggest going through them one by one.

Maybe someone who KNOWS Dale could pass the list to him and IF he has time...which he probably does since he is out of work...Maybe he can get some of the ANSWERS we need to find Michelle.
 
I don’t think the ring has anything to do with it. He most likely killed her because he didn’t want to pay child support.

Where else would he get the chance to attack her, if not at his place in a controlled environment, where he could take care of both her and her vehicle? She didn’t live alone and always seemed to be around people.
 
I just have a question if someone might know...


When Dale is finally charged, what info will we, as the public, automatically gain access to via FOIA? Will all phone records be accessible? (Dale Jr, Sr. Michelle, etc).
 
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