Thought I might review some of the crime-scene evidence from a different perspective e.g. that of the parents, but from what might be their staged point of view?
I may have omitted some forensic evidence or forgotten some stuff, but I'm sure the IDI people will soon remind us.
So for SuperDave I'll expand from a another thread and court controversy e.g. that apart from her Prior Vaginal Trauma everything found at the crime-scene including her death may be staging to hide another crime?
Susan Bennett aka Jameson communicated to Lou Smit that child *advertiser censored* allegedly displaying the daughter of Ramsey housekeeper Lindsay Hoffman-Pugh in an explicit sexual pose had been discovered on the internet.
John Ramsey stated that it was at JonBenet's insistence that he and Patsy allowed JonBenet to launch her beauty pageant career, all at the age of four. Here John is suggesting that JonBenet's pageant activities, with their adult themes, do not originate either from the Ramsey parents or the Paugh family, but from JonBenet herself.
In the summer of 1994, the Paughs held their family reunion in Charlevoix Michigan at the Ramseys summer home. The annual talent show was also a part of the reunion. Good, bad or indifferenteveryone had to perform on the makeshift stage on their back porch, overlooking Round Lake harbor. JonBenét and her cousin Jenny ( she of the size-12's ) sang a duet, I was raised on Country Sunshine. They looked so cute in their Daisy Mae cutoffs and pigtails.
Patsy's sisters Polly and Pam as well as Nedra Paugh were enthusiastically involved in JonBenet's Pageant career *advertiser censored* hobby. They helped source party dresses and material to create new costumes. When Patsy won the Miss West Virginia Pageant she had had been wearing a Ziegfeld Follies costume, so she knew what wowed the judges. This was later translated to JonBenet when she appeared as a Ziegfeld Follies girl. In the summer of 1996, JonBenét went prepared to the national Sunburst pageant in Atlanta. For her talent she sang Cowboys Sweetheart, a song chosen by Aunt Pam and Nedra from Don Paugh's large selection of country music CDs.
Prior to her death Patsy Ramsey called Dr. Beuf three times (reason unknown) about JonBenet. One person who had prior contact with JonBenet was Don Paugh (Patsy's father), he was a guest at the Ramsey's Christmas party Dec. 23, 1996, he also helped with JonBenet during the Boulder Christmas parade.
So including JonBenet's naked corpse here is a possible list of staged forensic evidence:
1. White blanket
2. Pink nightgown
3. Cord
4. Duct tape.
5. Size-12 underwear
6. White Gap top
7. White long underwear
8. Broken garrote handle
9. Ponytails on her head
10. Circumferential furrow.
11. Craniocerebral injuries
12. Ransom note
13. The pen
14. The Pad
15. The practise notes
16. Splinter
It appears to me that John and Patsy look at the crime-scene from a different perspective, that is initially John states he read to both children, whilst Patsy states she redressed JonBenet in the red turtle neck which was later found balled up in the bathroom. Both these statements were retracted, denied or mis-remembered depending on their alleged source.
So was it Patsy who staged acrime-scene redressing JonBenet in her red turtle neck, possibly restyling her hair into pigtails etc.
Did John then attempt to restage the crime-scene recognising that some elements were very suspicious?
Or was JonBenet's death a direct result of sexual assault and the rest a staged coverup?
Lets consider a possible course of events e.g. at some point after arriving back from the White's JonBenet consumes some pineapple e.g. this tells us she is awake, not asleep as her parent claim. Shortly after this she is dead.
Also accepting
And of course the allege urine stain outside the wine-cellar seems at variance with a child who had just emptied her bladder upstairs? If you accept JonBenet emptied her bladder upon death down in the basement then must she have been killed there? Also if JonBenet was carried downstairs wrapped in a blanket, how come there is a urine stain on the floor, should the blanket not have soaked it up, that is when was she wrapped in the blanket and why?
So could JonBenet actually have been nude when sexually assaulted and killed then redressed to suit whatever staging seemed appropriate?
Could John have intended to redress JonBenet in the pink barbie nightgown, since this would be more indicitive of a bedroom abduction, than her white gap-top? Was John restaging a prior staged crime-scene?
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I may have omitted some forensic evidence or forgotten some stuff, but I'm sure the IDI people will soon remind us.
So for SuperDave I'll expand from a another thread and court controversy e.g. that apart from her Prior Vaginal Trauma everything found at the crime-scene including her death may be staging to hide another crime?
Susan Bennett aka Jameson communicated to Lou Smit that child *advertiser censored* allegedly displaying the daughter of Ramsey housekeeper Lindsay Hoffman-Pugh in an explicit sexual pose had been discovered on the internet.
John Ramsey stated that it was at JonBenet's insistence that he and Patsy allowed JonBenet to launch her beauty pageant career, all at the age of four. Here John is suggesting that JonBenet's pageant activities, with their adult themes, do not originate either from the Ramsey parents or the Paugh family, but from JonBenet herself.
In the summer of 1994, the Paughs held their family reunion in Charlevoix Michigan at the Ramseys summer home. The annual talent show was also a part of the reunion. Good, bad or indifferenteveryone had to perform on the makeshift stage on their back porch, overlooking Round Lake harbor. JonBenét and her cousin Jenny ( she of the size-12's ) sang a duet, I was raised on Country Sunshine. They looked so cute in their Daisy Mae cutoffs and pigtails.
Patsy's sisters Polly and Pam as well as Nedra Paugh were enthusiastically involved in JonBenet's Pageant career *advertiser censored* hobby. They helped source party dresses and material to create new costumes. When Patsy won the Miss West Virginia Pageant she had had been wearing a Ziegfeld Follies costume, so she knew what wowed the judges. This was later translated to JonBenet when she appeared as a Ziegfeld Follies girl. In the summer of 1996, JonBenét went prepared to the national Sunburst pageant in Atlanta. For her talent she sang Cowboys Sweetheart, a song chosen by Aunt Pam and Nedra from Don Paugh's large selection of country music CDs.
Prior to her death Patsy Ramsey called Dr. Beuf three times (reason unknown) about JonBenet. One person who had prior contact with JonBenet was Don Paugh (Patsy's father), he was a guest at the Ramsey's Christmas party Dec. 23, 1996, he also helped with JonBenet during the Boulder Christmas parade.
So including JonBenet's naked corpse here is a possible list of staged forensic evidence:
1. White blanket
2. Pink nightgown
3. Cord
4. Duct tape.
5. Size-12 underwear
6. White Gap top
7. White long underwear
8. Broken garrote handle
9. Ponytails on her head
10. Circumferential furrow.
11. Craniocerebral injuries
12. Ransom note
13. The pen
14. The Pad
15. The practise notes
16. Splinter
It appears to me that John and Patsy look at the crime-scene from a different perspective, that is initially John states he read to both children, whilst Patsy states she redressed JonBenet in the red turtle neck which was later found balled up in the bathroom. Both these statements were retracted, denied or mis-remembered depending on their alleged source.
So was it Patsy who staged acrime-scene redressing JonBenet in her red turtle neck, possibly restyling her hair into pigtails etc.
Did John then attempt to restage the crime-scene recognising that some elements were very suspicious?
Or was JonBenet's death a direct result of sexual assault and the rest a staged coverup?
Lets consider a possible course of events e.g. at some point after arriving back from the White's JonBenet consumes some pineapple e.g. this tells us she is awake, not asleep as her parent claim. Shortly after this she is dead.
Also accepting
she was placed into the wine-cellar within the 15-20 minutes of death suggests she was either killed upstairs and quickly moved downstairs all it all occurred downstairs. A version of events that does not tally with Steve Thomas' bedwetting theory.DeeDee249 said:Or, since evidence suggests she was on her stomach when strangled (the anterior urine stains and the knot at the back of the neck), her arms may have been in that position (bent at the elbow against her chest underneath her) and remained that way. However, this is less likely because of the livor mortis pattern, which tells us that she was placed on her back within the first 15-20 minutes of death, probably before rigor in her arms would have gotten to that stage.
And of course the allege urine stain outside the wine-cellar seems at variance with a child who had just emptied her bladder upstairs? If you accept JonBenet emptied her bladder upon death down in the basement then must she have been killed there? Also if JonBenet was carried downstairs wrapped in a blanket, how come there is a urine stain on the floor, should the blanket not have soaked it up, that is when was she wrapped in the blanket and why?
So could JonBenet actually have been nude when sexually assaulted and killed then redressed to suit whatever staging seemed appropriate?
Could John have intended to redress JonBenet in the pink barbie nightgown, since this would be more indicitive of a bedroom abduction, than her white gap-top? Was John restaging a prior staged crime-scene?
http://www.jonbenetindexguide.com/1998BPD-John-Interview-Complete.htm
LOU SMIT: I would like to
17 show you photograph number 145, and this
18 is a photograph of the wine cellar and it
19 was taken at after the body was found.
20 But John, I would like you just to take
21 look at this, and again difficult
22 photograph, but tell us what you see.
23 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, that's looking
24 in the room from the door, I see the blanket
25 that looks like the one that was around her.
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*1 There is a pink something, pink -- I think
*2 that's the nightgown or.
*3 LOU SMIT: That's what I was
*4 going to inquire about. It is a
*5 nightgown, it is a pink one, it is a
*6 Barbie nightgown?
*7 JOHN RAMSEY: It looks like
*8 it's a shinier material than I remember.
*9 (INAUDIBLE). That looks more like what I
10 kind of remember was on the Barbie doll
11 itself.
12 LOU SMIT: That one does?
13 JOHN RAMSEY: Right. If I had to
14 speculate, that looks too shiny, the material,
15 but it seems to me I remember that Barbie doll
16 had a shiny pink nightgown thing on it.
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