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    The decision was made not to arrest Zimmerman before anyone talked to the 2 patrol cops who were the first on scene.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Netzilla View Post
    I have a 9mm semi-auto pistol and I suppose it is possible but I'd find it highly unlikely. The slide is going to go back when the gun is fired - there is a lot of force involved. You would have to prevent the slide from coming forward to prevent another round being chambered. However, once you released your grip I suspect the round would then be chambered. Just my opinion, I've never tried this and could be off base and I'm not a gunsmith or anything of that sort.
    Thank you, I was just wondering since there was a discussion in one of the threads about how the gun was found, in that there was a full clip but there was not a bullet in the chamber, which should automatically happen when the gun is fired (If I am getting this wrong please excuse, I know very little about guns) So, either the gun misfired somehow and no bullet got chambered or GZ was cool enough to secure his gun by taking a bullet out of the chamber and reloading it into his clip?

    That all just sounds bizarre to me, IMO JMHO and stuff


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Fessel View Post
    It just really sunk in that the police reports that the City released that were supposed to quiet everyone down about no arrest were written at 2:30 and 3:30 Am that night.

    Those police reports were written after the decision was made to release George Zimmerman.
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    My father is LE and from IME the reports are always done last, meaning after the suspect is released/locked up. At least here anyway, so I'm not sure why that matters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whiteangora View Post
    GZ's father was a magistrate, not a judge.....big difference in Virginia.

    “Robert J. Zimmerman served as a full-time magistrate from 2000-2006. Please be advised that in Virginia magistrates are judicial officers, but they are not considered "judges" and do not possess trial jurisdiction. More detailed information on the role of the magistrate in Virginia is available on Virginia's Judicial System Website .”
    From the above attachment. This is interesting since reports say his wife was a court clerk:

    "Furthermore, a person seeking appointment as a magistrate will not be eligible for appointment if such person or his spouse is a clerk, deputy or assistant clerk, or employee of any such clerk of a district court or circuit court. However, the Committee on District Courts may authorize a magistrate to assist in the district court clerk’s office on a part-time basis."

    Magistrate judges issue subpoenas, civil warrants, search warrants, probable cause hearings, protective orders, bail issues, etc. They are not trial judges. It appears they're function is administrative only. Still a judge, still considered a judge by those in authority. Appears to work closer with LE and SA and would be in a position to have a greater influence on them than a regular trial judge would. JMO


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    Quote Originally Posted by daisy7 View Post
    Our banks say no hats or sunglasses. I'm really surprised your bank says "no hoodies" instead of saying "no hoods up" I wonder what would happen if someone went into the bank wearing a hoodie with the hood down?
    Well, I guess I'm gonna have to make a quick trip to the bank at lunch. LOL

    Maybe it says no hoods up. Maybe it says no hooded sweatshirts. Maybe it says no hoodies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Netzilla View Post
    You have to admit GZ does have a history of reaching for a phone...


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    All I can seem to get hold of outside the blogosphere is that ABC bit that discussed GZ listing his father as a Magistrate Judge, and the state of VA coming back saying he was simply a magistrate.

    Bloggers have latched onto the phrase "former Orange County magistrate judge", but there's an Orange Co in both VA and FL. It seems to be very difficult to work out just where the father worked, and in what capacity.

    There are rumblings not just about Dad hamstringing the arrest, but also the thing that made GZ's three previous arrests go away and by extension, the thing that allowed him to legally posess a handgun.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Concerned Papa View Post
    How bout if the boy never was on top of Mr. Zimmerman? How bout if he was simply walking or running down a sidewalk going home and was accosted by a wannabe cop with a drawn, loaded, and COCKED cheap little gun pointed directly at his chest?

    Think it might be human nature for a 6' tall kid to make a grab for a little man's little gun in an effort to save his own life?

    Which makes the most sense, considering the location and position the body was found in, this possible scenario or Zimmerman's lame stories?
    I personally think that GZ had the gun out and I am not convinced that there was any scuffle until TM saw the gun, but I did want to attempt to logic through how it could have happened with TM on top of GZ beating him, and I drew a blank....My personal opinion is that GZ's story makes NO sense at all


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    I thought of this last night. If GZ's head had really been slammed on the concrete like he claims
    #1 it would take more than a band aid to heal it
    #2 he would definitely have some kind of concussion. He would have definitely been hospitalized. Head injuries are very serious you never know what can happen. If LE was so concerned about him I'm sure they would have hospitalized him if he had needed it for at least 24 hours. I think he story is greatly exagerated

    I think GZ was the aggressor and he snapped like he did years ago with the cop, lost it and just shot TM unecessarily. He wanted to be the hero again like his good old neighbor claims he is.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SuziQ View Post
    Yeah that comment sounds like what someone with a gun would say. I also have my suspicions that GZ was reaching for a gun and not his cell phone.

    my bolding

    I do too.

    This is all GZ's account. And again, what other things could he possibly have told police other than it was all self defense? He knew that the boy he just shot could no longer dispute anything he said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Concerned Papa View Post
    How bout if the boy never was on top of Mr. Zimmerman? How bout if he was simply walking or running down a sidewalk going home and was accosted by a wannabe cop with a drawn, loaded, and COCKED cheap little gun pointed directly at his chest?

    Think it might be human nature for a 6' tall kid to make a grab for a little man's little gun in an effort to save his own life?

    Which makes the most sense, considering the location and position the body was found in, this possible scenario or Zimmerman's lame stories?
    Exactly, Zimmerman is a coward. He would have never turned that corner in the dark looking for a black male who he thought was armed without having his gun out. IMO



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    Quote Originally Posted by songline View Post
    That is on top of his head. Banging his head on the cement the injury would be on the back of his head. Plus the spot is dark which could be hair it's very hard to tell. jmo


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    Quote Originally Posted by suzihawk View Post
    You may be referring to his interview with with MSNBC's Russell O'Donnell. O'Donnell tore him up.

    Lawrence O'Donnell EVISCERATES George Zimmerman 'friend' Joe Oliver. Part I. - YouTube
    Thanks for posting this. I'm just at the beginning of the vid., but he says he's currently not working because of what he is doing for GZ. That makes absolutely no sense to me!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by rotterdam View Post
    Tray could have had his hands in front and on the gun trying to push it away. I do think there was struggle for the gun and Tray stopped the slide from loading the next bullet in the chamber. GZ crawled away from him by pushing him up slightly and Tray's arms did not move. JMO
    then how was Mr Zimmerman's shirt front not totally covered in Mr Martin's blood?
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