wishuwerehere
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I thought this thread was needed so that we may debate the prosecution's case against Zimmerman, for better or worse.
I don't think they have anything at all because everything so far backs up George's and the eye witnesses claims.
I believe that they have nothing.
The 911 call has nothing on it that is in anyway going to hurt GZ.
1) OK - They 911 oporator said "we do not need you to do that" (follow the guy) but it is still legal for him to do that.
2) Some want to hear that there is a racial slur on the tape. I do not hear that at all.
But even if he did say a racial slur, we have all said a slur which does not mean we are racists.
3) TM is no child as it was falsely portrayed, he was IMO giving the impression of a , and GZ had a right to suspect him based on the history of that area.
BBM - He can suspect him all day long. Call the cops. Call Trayvon names, if he likes. But what he had no authority to do was to pursue Trayvon in an effort to detain him. That is exactly what I think transpired. Trayvon stood his ground. Zimmerman killed him for it. I believe the prosecution will set out to prove this.
jmo
I think they have a dead black teenager, an admitted shooter, a law/2nd amendment issue/gun lobby that a lot of folks really can't stand, a prosecutor known for being a hard *advertiser censored**, and more public pressure (at least initially) than is typically seen, and that's quite an understatement, imo.
I think when they made the arrest they had all of the above, and THOUGHT they had a hate crime element, too. jmo
We have NO idea if he pursed him or not. Everybody is just assuming he did.
they don't have enough evidence to prove with out a resonable doubt that GZ set out to kill Trayvon.
I disgree. I believe Zimmerman's 911 call will be used to show intent. Zimmerman exited his vehicle before the end of the call. IMO this demonstrates that he never had any intention to wait for the cops. Zimmerman was going to be the cop that day.
jmo
I disgree. I believe Zimmerman's 911 call will be used to show intent. Zimmerman exited his vehicle before the end of the call. IMO this demonstrates that he never had any intention to wait for the cops. Zimmerman was going to be the cop that day.
jmo
intent on what? That he was going to kill Trayvon?
JMO.
which 911 call did you listen to?
how long was it?
I'm speaking about the 911 call that George Zimmerman placed.
I know, there is a two minute one and a 4 minute one. the four minure one is the whole call.
I believe that they have nothing.
The 911 call has nothing on it that is in anyway going to hurt GZ.
1) OK - They 911 oporator said "we do not need you to do that" (follow the guy) but it is still legal for him to do that.
2) Some want to hear that there is a racial slur on the tape. I do not hear that at all.
But even if he did say a racial slur, we have all said a slur which does not mean we are racists.
3) TM is no child as it was falsely portrayed, he was IMO giving the impression of a , and GZ had a right to suspect him based on the history of that area.
There may be a hate crime element to this case. But it is so subjective. This case already is a lightening rod as you stated above. There would be no way they would list hate crime with the charges, not in that climate.
jmo
I believe that they have nothing.
The 911 call has nothing on it that is in anyway going to hurt GZ.
1) OK - They 911 oporator said "we do not need you to do that" (follow the guy) but it is still legal for him to do that.
2) Some want to hear that there is a racial slur on the tape. I do not hear that at all.
But even if he did say a racial slur, we have all said a slur which does not mean we are racists.
3) TM is no child as it was falsely portrayed, he was IMO giving the impression of a , and GZ had a right to suspect him based on the history of that area.