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    Quote Originally Posted by ILikeToBendPages View Post
    See this is something I don't understand. If you're waiting for that to trumpet blowing and you're out of here, why are you storing up arms and food? I don't think many have a few things on hand for a just in case. It doesn't have to be the end of the world for you to have some things set back. I always bought extra cans of green beans and corn and can goods when we first got married and built a small pantry, and we've always's had enough in case extra people show up for dinner or a bad storm and we're stuck and can't get to the store.
    I was raised in a constant state of "Doomsday", every Mormon is required to have a 2 year supply of food, water, meds, etc.
    I don't store up food, the BF is the gun nut and fear of the government taking over. And if he was all by himself, he wouldn't survive, no survival skills.
    Joseph Smith was a carnie, a charlatan, a crook, and polygamist. He was murdered because he and his buddies destroyed the printing presses and torched the building of the anti-Mormon newspaper. His brother was shooting at the lynch mob who came to string up Smith when he fell out of the Carthage jail window. You had 27 families and/or husbands who were pretty angry about Smiths "divine"
    marriages.
    Brigham Young got the idea of stockpiling food because of his fear the the US was going to take over Utah. Heck, the Mormon church even "encourages" it's members on who to vote for. The FLDS is pretty much exactly how the LDS church was originally. And that's pretty messed up.
    My kids and I were off the grid for 9 months, we survived just fine. It'll be even easier without them if it ever comes to that again.
    You have to have skills.
    I have skills.
    I'm not worried.

    JMO, OMO, MOO, etc., etc........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasper52 View Post
    ^^^Exactly! That's the reason for investing in precious metals - gives you barter/trading power if need be. I'm referring to worst-case scenarios.
    If I have a dozen eggs, I'm not going to barter for precious metals.....you can't eat it or use it.
    I think a better investment would be toilet paper, lol! Now that I would trade for!
    Think about what you would loose with no electricity or gasoline.
    It's all about living like pioneers.
    Just my opinion.

    JMO, OMO, MOO, etc., etc........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bernina View Post
    The kicker is:
    She visited her nephew the day before, asked her ex brother in law about purchasing a gun for "neighborhood break-ins" that didn't exist, he took her to a pawn shop where she said she didn't have the money til she got her check in 2 weeks, her young nephew, who was dying of bone cancer (now deceased) heard her and her folks discussing it and offered to let her borrow one of his guns and gave her a knife......the nephew collected guns, knives, and swords............lent her the Taurus .380 in it's original box, complete with receipt, loaded the weapon for her, 5 bullets, and gave her the rest of the box of 45/50, and the Rampage knife, again in it's original box.
    All but the actual gun was recovered either in the trash at Madonna's home, or at the crime scene where the body was found. A bullet projectory was found in the Jeep behind the passenger seat.
    From what I gather from the testimony of the brother and sister in law, Madonna did not visit them but very rarely, it was her daughter who was very close with the nephew, aunt, and uncle.
    Madonna did this all in a mere 4 hours, got the weapons and headed back home, driving Jose's Jeep.
    Sill trying to figure out if her glasses are real.

    Day 3 is the medical examiner...........the injuries are very, VERY overkill. The one stab to Jose's mandible dissected it, and that's one of the strongest bones in the body.

    I wonder who paid for the home, and was it through the VA? He had apprx. $5,500 a month coming in for VA disability and SSDI, and he had signed for Madonna to receive his benefits upon his death.
    LE found all his ID's, VA paperwork, AA coins, and medications in the trash, and this was after she said he had left her. And he left his Jeep.
    Going to continue watching..........
    Yeah, obviously I should have watched from the beginning. Closing arguments going on now. Shandles wrapped it up pretty neatly, pointing out that she hadn't been married to Perez long enough to get his benefits if they divorced...

    Thanks for filling in the blanks. That's a lot of incriminating evidence. And the oldest motive around. Now I can understand why her testimony made everyone so mad...

    I'm changing my vote!

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    Quote Originally Posted by coffeejunkie View Post
    Thanks for the new thread!!
    Oh I like this new Shiny thread....
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    ~~Life isn't about waiting for the storms to pass... It's about learning to dance in the rain!~~
    ~~We are not human beings having a spiritual experience, we are spiritual beings having a human experience!~~
    ~~Veni, Vidi, Velcro! I came, I saw, I stuck around!~~

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    WOW! This new thread is making things a LOT easier - fast.... no longer for it to get right!

    Quote Originally Posted by coffeejunkie View Post
    I'm hoping someone takes some pics!!
    Didn't take this picture, as I too had cloud cover - but it was all RED!! Like the sunsets the other 2 nights!
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    Hey all!

    Dropped off the Huz at ER and he will be getting his blood transfusion! I hope ALL goes well!

    Quote Originally Posted by coffeejunkie View Post
    I think you did, Nore! I do believe in that. I dreamed of my Mom after she died and she told me she was okay, too. My grandma dreamed of grandpa and he told her he was fine and they actually had a nice time talking together. The dreams are so real like...
    I too have "seen" my father and mother, waiting for little bro to show up in my dreams! The dreams were REAL!!!!

    There are a couple of threads here on WS, and I believe I've posted links to, but will again:

    Uplifting Signs and Downright Unexplainable. I've bumped this one up a few times!
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...6#post12031526

    and this one - Life After Death
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...3#post11638703

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernina View Post
    If I have a dozen eggs, I'm not going to barter for precious metals.....you can't eat it or use it.
    I think a better investment would be toilet paper, lol! Now that I would trade for!
    Think about what you would loose with no electricity or gasoline.
    It's all about living like pioneers.
    Just my opinion.
    re bold - reminds me of my second trip to Latvia during Soviet times - I brought a bunch of toilet paper!! Our relatives either had an outhouse - with newspaper as toilet paper, or this VERY rough brown paper!! Yikes!

    Okay - going to the pharmacy to pick up my Huz' meds, and than to my massage and than back to the ER!

    Wish my HUZ good luck on this procedure!!!!!

    Later!
    ~~Life isn't about waiting for the storms to pass... It's about learning to dance in the rain!~~
    ~~We are not human beings having a spiritual experience, we are spiritual beings having a human experience!~~
    ~~Veni, Vidi, Velcro! I came, I saw, I stuck around!~~

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    Something really, really weird is going on with my phone services. My landline keeps going dead, and now my cell phone is dead too, it had a full charge!!! This is very strange, is anyone else experiencing anything like this?

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    Niner, hope the transfusion goes well for your hubby, and the rest of your day goes gently. You earned that massage!
    Neesaki, no phone problems here, just a few over zealous salespeople. Maybe it was from that Super Moon?

    Stockpiling TP ..... I can relate to that!! Outhouses .... I don't miss them! I don't remember the one we had when I was just a baby, but one neighbor still had and used hers in the 1960's, and a few country cousins had them. The double-seaters were where we shared a lot of nose-holding giggles. But the ones that used to be at rest areas or campgrounds ..... wrap your nose in TP before entering!
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    I just have this to say......I HATE HATE Windows 10----I could use better words but I would be against rules....Can't find any of my music ---- I'm furious! DH not home but better make it right or .........

    Not in a pleasant frame of mind these days anyways---But this really pizzes me off !!!

    sorry for the rant... (again--not pleasant state of mind)
    jmo

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    Quote Originally Posted by GigiG View Post
    I'll add to that. After living through 9/11 in DC where your ATM card wasn't going to do you any good, I've learned to keep cash on hand. It's great to have food stored up, but should our digital infrastructure go down, you're going to need to buy things you hadn't anticipated on; cards won't be of any use...
    Yes, I can't believe the young people today, they can't even buy a coke without using their ATM card, they don't even know what cash is, probably can't even count it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasper52 View Post
    ^^^Exactly! That's the reason for investing in precious metals - gives you barter/trading power if need be. I'm referring to worst-case scenarios.
    ITA on the precious metals, Jasper.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bernina View Post
    If I have a dozen eggs, I'm not going to barter for precious metals.....you can't eat it or use it.
    I think a better investment would be toilet paper, lol! Now that I would trade for!
    Think about what you would loose with no electricity or gasoline.
    It's all about living like pioneers.
    Just my opinion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Spellbound View Post
    Niner, hope the transfusion goes well for your hubby, and the rest of your day goes gently. You earned that massage!
    Neesaki, no phone problems here, just a few over zealous salespeople. Maybe it was from that Super Moon?

    Stockpiling TP ..... I can relate to that!! Outhouses .... I don't miss them! I don't remember the one we had when I was just a baby, but one neighbor still had and used hers in the 1960's, and a few country cousins had them. The double-seaters were where we shared a lot of nose-holding giggles. But the ones that used to be at rest areas or campgrounds ..... wrap your nose in TP before entering!
    Toilet paper , YES !!! Lots and lots of TP ! And water, and canned goods and freeze dried or dehydrated foods...and of course, wine or whatever is your drink of choice.

    I know, Spellbound, I was wondering about the Super Moon having something to do with it. My cell phone flat out died all of a sudden, I fully charged it last night and it was still charged this morning and I had just used it. Then I got on the land line, made a call, it went through, then it went totally dead. It's creepy Now I've gotta get outta here and over to Verizon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Niner View Post
    Hey all!

    Dropped off the Huz at ER and he will be getting his blood transfusion! I hope ALL goes well!



    I too have "seen" my father and mother, waiting for little bro to show up in my dreams! The dreams were REAL!!!!

    There are a couple of threads here on WS, and I believe I've posted links to, but will again:

    Uplifting Signs and Downright Unexplainable. I've bumped this one up a few times!
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...6#post12031526

    and this one - Life After Death
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...3#post11638703



    re bold - reminds me of my second trip to Latvia during Soviet times - I brought a bunch of toilet paper!! Our relatives either had an outhouse - with newspaper as toilet paper, or this VERY rough brown paper!! Yikes!

    Okay - going to the pharmacy to pick up my Huz' meds, and than to my massage and than back to the ER!

    Wish my HUZ good luck on this procedure!!!!!

    Later!
    Your hubby's getting a transfusion, Niner? I just read it. Hope all goes well and he is better soon. (((hugs)))

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    Niner, sending Jingles to your hubby. I hope all goes well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoey View Post
    I just have this to say......I HATE HATE Windows 10----I could use better words but I would be against rules....Can't find any of my music ---- I'm furious! DH not home but better make it right or .........

    Not in a pleasant frame of mind these days anyways---But this really pizzes me off !!!

    sorry for the rant... (again--not pleasant state of mind)
    Looks like Jasper is here - they'll help you, if recall it's the right person to ask!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jasper52 View Post
    Niner, sending Jingles to your hubby. I hope all goes well.
    Thanks, but the doctor just told me, it doesn't look good for him - so I need please, please, please...

    TONS OF PRAYERS!!!!

    please, please, please....

    Is supposed to get the blood transfusion now, and I'm going back in 2 hours... hoping the doctor doesn't call before than to tell me to get down there....

    ~~Life isn't about waiting for the storms to pass... It's about learning to dance in the rain!~~
    ~~We are not human beings having a spiritual experience, we are spiritual beings having a human experience!~~
    ~~Veni, Vidi, Velcro! I came, I saw, I stuck around!~~

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoey View Post
    I just have this to say......I HATE HATE Windows 10----I could use better words but I would be against rules....Can't find any of my music ---- I'm furious! DH not home but better make it right or .........

    Not in a pleasant frame of mind these days anyways---But this really pizzes me off !!!

    sorry for the rant... (again--not pleasant state of mind)
    -----Zoey , I have 8.1 and cant find all my pictures!
    My Buffy. He lives in Heaven now
    with my loved ones..xoxox

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    Quote Originally Posted by Niner View Post
    Looks like Jasper is here - they'll help you, if recall it's the right person to ask!!



    Thanks, but the doctor just told me, it doesn't look good for him - so I need please, please, please...

    TONS OF PRAYERS!!!!

    please, please, please....

    Is supposed to get the blood transfusion now, and I'm going back in 2 hours... hoping the doctor doesn't call before than to tell me to get down there....

    I'm waiting for the one that installed it--dh
    jmo

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