Was Judas a Traitor?...

BhamMama said:

Interesting read.

I read a book once that discussed this theory. That in order for the prophecy to come true Judas had to this, that it was foretold and nothing could change it and that Jesus knew this and was saddened but resigned. That Jesus knew and was self fulfilling the prophecies.

I just didn't know they were claiming this as brand new information. There is a book called The Passover Plot from 1965 that discusses this theory and a movie with the same name from 1979.

The book I speak of in my first paragraph is a series of books by a woman named Marjorie Holmes, the one that deals with this topic is called Three From Galilee. From the 70's.

Now I'm Jewish, not Christian and found them great reading if for nothing else but to find out what others believe and what Israel was like back then and political motives etc.

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Curious J said:

As a Christian I feel as if I need to respond. The Gospel of Judas was written at least 100 years after Jesus's death and resurrection. In the New Testament epistles, Paul often warned the havoc that false teachers including (or primarily) the gnostics caused in the 1st century church. This book was written in the 2nd century and continued along the lines of false teachers. Christians should not give any creedance to it, nor be threatened by the heightness of publicity the book is receiving.

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Curious J said:

As a Christian I feel as if I need to respond. The Gospel of Judas was written at least 100 years after Jesus's death and resurrection. In the New Testament epistles, Paul often warned the havoc that false teachers including (or primarily) the gnostics caused in the 1st century church. This book was written in the 2nd century and continued along the lines of false teachers. Christians should not give any creedance to it, nor be threatened by the heightness of publicity the book is receiving.

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windovervocalcords said:

Its new to me to have the National Geographic Society authenticate the text and the story on Public Television News.

I have read Elaine Pagels work on the Gnostic Gospels. She is a historian.
Pagels earned an M.A. from Stanford University and Ph.D. “with distinction” from Harvard. She possesses a working command of Greek, Latin, German, Hebrew, French, Italian and Coptic. She also wrote " Beyond Belief, The Secret Gospel of Thomas" and "The Origin of Satan."

Its been awhile since I read the the Gnostic Gospels but I seem to remember that Mary Magdalene had a more prominent role, perhaps also wrote her own gospel.

The Gnostic Gospels, is an analysis of 52 early Christian manuscripts that were unearthed in Egypt. Known collectively as the Nag Hammadi Library, the manuscripts show the pluralistic nature of the early church and the role of women in the developing Christian movement. As the early church moved toward becoming an orthodox body with a canon, rites and clergy, the Nag Hammadi manuscripts were suppressed and deemed heretical.

Very interesting discussion.
http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2006/04/08/gospel_of_judas_inspires_awe_wrath/

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