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This person explains the case well. Dr G is a local ME here in Central Florida but I am not sure where the case mentioned is from. I saw the episode but did not hear where it occured, her show reveals cases she has worked on over the course of her career.
Here is what she actually writes about the case:
"The other episode last night was one in which a woman had shot her husband. Claiming self defense. She said he was drunk and coming after her. He had a rap sheet, which included DUI offenses, and they had often had very bad fights, so this kind of made sense, but something made them not let her off the hook, quite. In the course of the investigation, when they were interviewing witnesses for the trial, a potential witness--i think the dead man's sister or cousin, said that he had been very sick and week in the days leading up to the shooting and he mentioned something about poisoning.
Dr. G. had noticed pink pepto bismol in the stomach, but didn't think a whole lot about it, but it would explain him trying to fight off nausea. There was no alcohol in his system. She was at first , loath to follow up on the poisoning angle since it happens rarely. But she sent blood and urine off to be analyzed for heavy metals. Lo and behold, arsenic. She testified against the woman at the trial, but somethng occured with the chain of evidence such that the woman only ended up getting probation, and Dr. G. said that as far as she knows, the woman never saw any jail time despite poisioning her husband and then shooting him."
Very much on track with the episode which I watched as well. The "something that occured" with the evidence was - it got thrown out because the defense argued that even though Dr G found evidence of long term arsenic poisoning she could not prove this woman was feeding it to her husband, since she could not prove she was feeding it to the husband and they had no other evidence proving either she was not permitted to even mention the arsenic on the stand.
The jury never got a chance to hear this evidence. So this woman got of scott free with his murder, claiming self defense. Dr. G said the evidence she found of long term poisoning showed she was trying to kill him slowly so the arsenic would not be noticed as it would affect him adversly to do enough damage over time to his organs that poisoning may not be noticable as cause of death. (my understanding anyway of her explanation) But since it had been occuring for such a long period of time DR. G figured the woman got tired of waiting and decided to shoot him and claim self defense.
How does this apply here? How can they prove Casey gave the chloroform or anything that may be "detected"? For the very same reason as this other case this evidence could be thrown out. This is going to drag out for so long that they may not even be able to prove that Casey did anything to Caylee even if they find the body. They must find more evidence to connect her to the crime and I have high concerns over this and the more I think on it the more I feel there could be problems here. Even if they find the body Casey can just keep on plaing stupid until they can show a direct link.
Her car was abandoned in a highly visible area, somone could have placed evidence in the trunk during the 3 days it sat at Amscott. She can continue to play stupid with her nanny act, and they can never prove she did not have a nanny. How can you prove something did not exist? Logically you cannot.
The longer I think about this more more circumstantial the evidence appears. They had gloves and shoe prints in O.J.'s case and that was MUCH more solid evidence that he was the culprit than anything that could link Casey to her daughters death. But even they could not prove the gloves or foot prints were O.J.'s he even had a cut on his hand.
What do we have here so far? She was the last known person to have seen Caylee alive other than the "supposed" nanny. And she will keep playing the stupid angle on that one and the evidence found in the trunk of her car which was abbandoned for three solid days and then left in the junk yard for two weeks.
Now ME? personnaly? this all makes me think HARD! This did not all happen by chance, she is not that lucky or smart enough to have had such a good hand dealt in this little card game of hers. NO WAY. I really feel, the more I look at this, that she had help, I am starting to think that everything was a set up deal; including running out of gas all those times and staying away from the house. Something terrible happened on the 16th and that was "D" day. What happened in that hosue that terrible day? What did Caylee see? What went on? How did she end up in the path of destruction? I do not think this was a case of getting rid of an unwanted child, I think there is something much more horrible here that created this darkness. I think there are skeletons in the closets that have yet to surface, I just wish I knew how to scare them out.
How can they prove their case? if they cannot prove Casey's involvment? With so many "outs" she can try and take?
This person explains the case well. Dr G is a local ME here in Central Florida but I am not sure where the case mentioned is from. I saw the episode but did not hear where it occured, her show reveals cases she has worked on over the course of her career.
Here is what she actually writes about the case:
"The other episode last night was one in which a woman had shot her husband. Claiming self defense. She said he was drunk and coming after her. He had a rap sheet, which included DUI offenses, and they had often had very bad fights, so this kind of made sense, but something made them not let her off the hook, quite. In the course of the investigation, when they were interviewing witnesses for the trial, a potential witness--i think the dead man's sister or cousin, said that he had been very sick and week in the days leading up to the shooting and he mentioned something about poisoning.
Dr. G. had noticed pink pepto bismol in the stomach, but didn't think a whole lot about it, but it would explain him trying to fight off nausea. There was no alcohol in his system. She was at first , loath to follow up on the poisoning angle since it happens rarely. But she sent blood and urine off to be analyzed for heavy metals. Lo and behold, arsenic. She testified against the woman at the trial, but somethng occured with the chain of evidence such that the woman only ended up getting probation, and Dr. G. said that as far as she knows, the woman never saw any jail time despite poisioning her husband and then shooting him."
Very much on track with the episode which I watched as well. The "something that occured" with the evidence was - it got thrown out because the defense argued that even though Dr G found evidence of long term arsenic poisoning she could not prove this woman was feeding it to her husband, since she could not prove she was feeding it to the husband and they had no other evidence proving either she was not permitted to even mention the arsenic on the stand.
The jury never got a chance to hear this evidence. So this woman got of scott free with his murder, claiming self defense. Dr. G said the evidence she found of long term poisoning showed she was trying to kill him slowly so the arsenic would not be noticed as it would affect him adversly to do enough damage over time to his organs that poisoning may not be noticable as cause of death. (my understanding anyway of her explanation) But since it had been occuring for such a long period of time DR. G figured the woman got tired of waiting and decided to shoot him and claim self defense.
How does this apply here? How can they prove Casey gave the chloroform or anything that may be "detected"? For the very same reason as this other case this evidence could be thrown out. This is going to drag out for so long that they may not even be able to prove that Casey did anything to Caylee even if they find the body. They must find more evidence to connect her to the crime and I have high concerns over this and the more I think on it the more I feel there could be problems here. Even if they find the body Casey can just keep on plaing stupid until they can show a direct link.
Her car was abandoned in a highly visible area, somone could have placed evidence in the trunk during the 3 days it sat at Amscott. She can continue to play stupid with her nanny act, and they can never prove she did not have a nanny. How can you prove something did not exist? Logically you cannot.
The longer I think about this more more circumstantial the evidence appears. They had gloves and shoe prints in O.J.'s case and that was MUCH more solid evidence that he was the culprit than anything that could link Casey to her daughters death. But even they could not prove the gloves or foot prints were O.J.'s he even had a cut on his hand.
What do we have here so far? She was the last known person to have seen Caylee alive other than the "supposed" nanny. And she will keep playing the stupid angle on that one and the evidence found in the trunk of her car which was abbandoned for three solid days and then left in the junk yard for two weeks.
Now ME? personnaly? this all makes me think HARD! This did not all happen by chance, she is not that lucky or smart enough to have had such a good hand dealt in this little card game of hers. NO WAY. I really feel, the more I look at this, that she had help, I am starting to think that everything was a set up deal; including running out of gas all those times and staying away from the house. Something terrible happened on the 16th and that was "D" day. What happened in that hosue that terrible day? What did Caylee see? What went on? How did she end up in the path of destruction? I do not think this was a case of getting rid of an unwanted child, I think there is something much more horrible here that created this darkness. I think there are skeletons in the closets that have yet to surface, I just wish I knew how to scare them out.
How can they prove their case? if they cannot prove Casey's involvment? With so many "outs" she can try and take?