Glow
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Well finally.
Its always fascinating how if you give something enough time, the emotion evaporates and the real facts come out.
The following are snips from this link/
http://heartkeepercommonroom.blogspot.com
The court case challenging the validity of the YFZ search warrant continues, and some mighty interesting (and disturbing) information is coming out.
You'll recall that the original caller (a hoax) claimed to have been beaten to the point of broken bones which had to be treated at a local hospital. This has always bothered me because it would have been easy to verify, and the hospital should have previously reported it anyway.
A few days ago at the hearing, Ranger Brooks Long testified that he had tried, but was unable to verify this information, for the judge. That omission seems bad enough. But what if he committed perjury when he made that claim? What if he didn't bother to check that story at all?
a private investigator for an FLDS attorney testifies that he checked at the hospital and they tell him that law enforcement NEVER tried to verify if they had treated such a girl. It would have been easy for them to remember her, as it's a 34 bed facility. But there's more. Toes says:
According to the newly-published-on-the-web affidavit of Jessica Carroll of the Family Shelter,
"Sarah told me that the only other time she left the ranch was to go to the hospital . . . She told me it was called the medical center. I asked her if Schleicher County Medical Center sounded close, and she stated, yes, that is the place."
Schleicher County Medical Center is a nursing home.
Toes says it's possible that in such a small community it does double duty as an ER room for battered teens, but we have the shelter feeding information to the hoaxster (that's how Rozita got the name of her alleged 'husband') again, and this isn't the only case where Brooks's testimony contradicts other accounts.
The Pharisee points out that Brooks and Doran decided the caller was probably lying about her name and her age- but Brooks went ahead and had the warrant sworn out on the basis of those claims he now says he believed at the time were false.
She was unable to name her husband until a shelter worker read her a list of men's names associated with the FLDS.
She did not pronounce the name of the town correctly.
She referred to Easter Sunday,
.
She did not know the name of the hospital where she was treated, and when fed a name by a shelter worker she agreed that is where she was treated. It turns out to be a local nursing home, where there are no records of her being seen.
She didn't even have the name of the ranch right. She called it the YZMIN Ranch.
Seriously.
And yet, in spite of all the above problems (and others) with her claims, the Texas Ranger and Sheriff Doran insist there's no reason they should have been suspicious.
The state attorney insists this was all in good faith and there is no evidence that Long or anybody else thought this was a hoax. If that's the case, then there's plenty of evidence above to show that they were criminally idiotic.
But I don't think they were stupid. I think they were over-zealous to get into that ranch and take women and children off of it and were willing to use anything as cover, no matter how flimsy. Otherwise, why were they planning on a largescale removal before they'd even been to the ranch?:
Hours before Walther signed the first warrant on April 3, law officers began amassing a large-scale response that included some 100 officers, a SWAT team, closure of the air space over the ranch, a drone surveillance plane and arrangements for buses to ferry women and children off the ranch. They also met with child welfare investigators and told them to prepare for "several young girls."
If they wanted to rescue young Sarah, they were dispicably negligent and sloppy in going about it. If they wanted to use a mythical Sarah, brought to them via an eleaborate telephone hoax, then they acted about as one would expect:
A Texas Ranger testified it took him two days to link calls that triggered the largest child welfare investigation in U.S. history to a known prankster -- something he could have done before authorities entered a polygamous sect's ranch if a supervisor had requested it.
And a probation officer for the suspect named in the state's search warrant said he would have immediately arranged to turn the man over if Texas authorities had asked.
But no one contacted him.
TWO DAYS before Walther signed the warrent:
Steve Mild, an operations captain for the Tom Green County Sheriff's Office, said he was asked about use of a mobile command center. He said Schleicher County Sheriff David Doran told him before the operation began that authorities planned to remove 20 to 25 children from the ranch.
Another officer, Texas Ranger Aaron Grigsby, said he arranged on the morning of April 3 to close air space over the ranch in preparation for the "most massive search" he'd ever encountered.
Two days before they got on the ranch, they were already planning on leaving with two dozen children. Why?
and this is pretty suspicious:
Kemp also found a 90-second call from Doran's cell phone to Swinton on April 8, 2008. Doran never told rangers he had the number until Kemp asked him about it.
The Texas case looks fishier and fishier.
Its always fascinating how if you give something enough time, the emotion evaporates and the real facts come out.
The following are snips from this link/
http://heartkeepercommonroom.blogspot.com
The court case challenging the validity of the YFZ search warrant continues, and some mighty interesting (and disturbing) information is coming out.
You'll recall that the original caller (a hoax) claimed to have been beaten to the point of broken bones which had to be treated at a local hospital. This has always bothered me because it would have been easy to verify, and the hospital should have previously reported it anyway.
A few days ago at the hearing, Ranger Brooks Long testified that he had tried, but was unable to verify this information, for the judge. That omission seems bad enough. But what if he committed perjury when he made that claim? What if he didn't bother to check that story at all?
a private investigator for an FLDS attorney testifies that he checked at the hospital and they tell him that law enforcement NEVER tried to verify if they had treated such a girl. It would have been easy for them to remember her, as it's a 34 bed facility. But there's more. Toes says:
According to the newly-published-on-the-web affidavit of Jessica Carroll of the Family Shelter,
"Sarah told me that the only other time she left the ranch was to go to the hospital . . . She told me it was called the medical center. I asked her if Schleicher County Medical Center sounded close, and she stated, yes, that is the place."
Schleicher County Medical Center is a nursing home.
Toes says it's possible that in such a small community it does double duty as an ER room for battered teens, but we have the shelter feeding information to the hoaxster (that's how Rozita got the name of her alleged 'husband') again, and this isn't the only case where Brooks's testimony contradicts other accounts.
The Pharisee points out that Brooks and Doran decided the caller was probably lying about her name and her age- but Brooks went ahead and had the warrant sworn out on the basis of those claims he now says he believed at the time were false.
She was unable to name her husband until a shelter worker read her a list of men's names associated with the FLDS.
She did not pronounce the name of the town correctly.
She referred to Easter Sunday,
.
She did not know the name of the hospital where she was treated, and when fed a name by a shelter worker she agreed that is where she was treated. It turns out to be a local nursing home, where there are no records of her being seen.
She didn't even have the name of the ranch right. She called it the YZMIN Ranch.
Seriously.
And yet, in spite of all the above problems (and others) with her claims, the Texas Ranger and Sheriff Doran insist there's no reason they should have been suspicious.
The state attorney insists this was all in good faith and there is no evidence that Long or anybody else thought this was a hoax. If that's the case, then there's plenty of evidence above to show that they were criminally idiotic.
But I don't think they were stupid. I think they were over-zealous to get into that ranch and take women and children off of it and were willing to use anything as cover, no matter how flimsy. Otherwise, why were they planning on a largescale removal before they'd even been to the ranch?:
Hours before Walther signed the first warrant on April 3, law officers began amassing a large-scale response that included some 100 officers, a SWAT team, closure of the air space over the ranch, a drone surveillance plane and arrangements for buses to ferry women and children off the ranch. They also met with child welfare investigators and told them to prepare for "several young girls."
If they wanted to rescue young Sarah, they were dispicably negligent and sloppy in going about it. If they wanted to use a mythical Sarah, brought to them via an eleaborate telephone hoax, then they acted about as one would expect:
A Texas Ranger testified it took him two days to link calls that triggered the largest child welfare investigation in U.S. history to a known prankster -- something he could have done before authorities entered a polygamous sect's ranch if a supervisor had requested it.
And a probation officer for the suspect named in the state's search warrant said he would have immediately arranged to turn the man over if Texas authorities had asked.
But no one contacted him.
TWO DAYS before Walther signed the warrent:
Steve Mild, an operations captain for the Tom Green County Sheriff's Office, said he was asked about use of a mobile command center. He said Schleicher County Sheriff David Doran told him before the operation began that authorities planned to remove 20 to 25 children from the ranch.
Another officer, Texas Ranger Aaron Grigsby, said he arranged on the morning of April 3 to close air space over the ranch in preparation for the "most massive search" he'd ever encountered.
Two days before they got on the ranch, they were already planning on leaving with two dozen children. Why?
and this is pretty suspicious:
Kemp also found a 90-second call from Doran's cell phone to Swinton on April 8, 2008. Doran never told rangers he had the number until Kemp asked him about it.
The Texas case looks fishier and fishier.