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    2010.03.10 Theories about DNA Analysis on CD's

    The CDs feature DNA charts and graphs with no explanation, and no new photos or documents. Aggravating for sleuthy-types.

    My theory: I wonder if Caylee's father has come forward, would certainly help explain volumes of DNA evidence, and that his identify/personal info is what the State went behind closed doors with JS to keep from the defense for now.

    What do you think?
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    There was some mention of DNA testing to rule out GA or LA as Caylee's father, though I doubt that would be included in this dump as pertaining to the case.

    More likely this is relating to identifying remains, and various other samples from the Anthony home, cars, and remains site.

    I'm sure touch-DNA from the duct tape is too much to hope for, and if found would have been hyped alot more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffaloPI View Post
    There was some mention of DNA testing to rule out GA or LA as Caylee's father, though I doubt that would be included in this dump as pertaining to the case.

    More likely this is relating to identifying remains, and various other samples from the Anthony home, cars, and remains site.

    I'm sure touch-DNA from the duct tape is too much to hope for, and if found would have been hyped alot more.
    We already have sufficient DNA results in the released docs to rule out GA and LA as Caylee's father.

    My theory is that these are the detailed DNA results on all the items for which we already have the short-form results. The charts we saw with a dozen or so DNA "data points" for each person and item were not the complete DNA results. However, they were complete enough to draw the conclusions drawn from them. I don't think these DNA files will be at all new or interesting, unfortunately.

    "It would seem to me that June 16, 2008 was the last time that the victim was viewed by her grandparents. It became quite evident that from the OS of the Defense that the 16th was a date of great importance and that a so called time line of activities dealing with CA, LA, GA and ICA on the 16th and what, if any, activities took place on the 15th, 16th and 17th of June on 24 hour cycles would have been, at least, of a minimal requirement of review. I take it at some point you had a computer expert look at that data?" HHJP, 6/21/11
    http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...139910&page=94

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuffaloPI View Post
    There was some mention of DNA testing to rule out GA or LA as Caylee's father, though I doubt that would be included in this dump as pertaining to the case.

    More likely this is relating to identifying remains, and various other samples from the Anthony home, cars, and remains site.

    I'm sure touch-DNA from the duct tape is too much to hope for, and if found would have been hyped alot more.
    BBM. Perhaps, since one of the A's (Lee I think) when asked why they were not sure Caylee was deceased said that they hadn't seen the DNA results. (In the State Deposition).

    I am hoping that the explanation/labeling/corresponding report is on one of the disks that cannot be opened yet. I hope someone will be able to get them open for us!!!!

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    I know this thread is about the DNA but I haven't seen this anywhere and it's about the doc dump... I thought we were supposed to be getting more interview transcripts too?

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    I finally get a day off on "Doc Dump Day" and all it turns out to be is "Undetermined DNA Day"

    Figures lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by LolaMoon08 View Post
    I know this thread is about the DNA but I haven't seen this anywhere and it's about the doc dump... I thought we were supposed to be getting more interview transcripts too?

    Maybe they are on the other disks that couldn't be read?

    http://www.wftv.com/news/22794649/detail.html

    "All of the files require the proprietary software and, even using the software, only some of the files would open for WFTV. Sources told WFTV that the State Attorney's Office and the defense had similar problems actually accessing the files.".....this makes no sense to me. Does this mean the State got the disks from somewhere else (FBI or expert) and couldn't open them? Why would they release them until they got ones the could open? Or were they eventually able to open them? I wish we would get some clarification from the State on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LolaMoon08 View Post
    I know this thread is about the DNA but I haven't seen this anywhere and it's about the doc dump... I thought we were supposed to be getting more interview transcripts too?
    That would be wonderful, but so far, the reports are it is 9 CD's of incomprehensible DNA charts with no notes or docs.

    You can see a sample page at this site http://www.wesh.com/news/22795525/detail.html.

    <snipped from the article on WESH.com>

    "The CDs feature DNA charts and graphs with no explanation, and no new photos or documents.

    One defense attorney said the discs contain some kind of DNA standards requested by the Anthony defense team. The data on the discs requires special software to view."
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    I just got a copy of today's discovery from Muzikman . The naming scheme for the directories and files is pretty straightforward, so it is no wonder the media could not figure it out . Actually, I take that partially back. Muzikman told me a couple minutes ago that Tony Pipitone must have figured it out too, based on his noon report.

    Anyway, one of the discs has the title "knowns" (disc 121). There are three sub-directories, for example NR009010709. That is an FBI lab number. You can find the printed material corresponding to this lab beginning with discovery page 8766 released on September 29.

    Digging into the directory is a file ._NR009010709KB1 6. The graph for this sample can be found on discovery page 8770.

    So the trick will be seeing if there is anything in the materials from today that does not have a corresponding release from last fall. It means checking all the sample IDs from last fall's discovery - an ugly little task. I might do that tonight.

    But unless something new is in this discovery, I think you are looking at the raw data files used to generate the tables and graphs from last fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kentjbkent View Post
    Hmmm....wonder if these are the documents from FBI that were discussed on two different occasions by Baez in court hearings? Remember when JS told JB that he could not order SA to demand that FBI send documents to Baez (don't think SA was even in possession of them yet), nor could he (JS) order the FBI to turn them over (no jurisdiction), but told Baez that he would have to contact FBI himself and it was up to them whether or not to turn over at that particular time (this was last year)...
    That's what Iwas wondering as well.


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    I thought they were going to release other documents too, not just the discs ....how very disappointing

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    Quote Originally Posted by JWG View Post
    I just got a copy of today's discovery from Muzikman . The naming scheme for the directories and files is pretty straightforward, so it is no wonder the media could not figure it out . Actually, I take that partially back. Muzikman told me a couple minutes ago that Tony Pipitone must have figured it out too, based on his noon report.

    Anyway, one of the discs has the title "knowns" (disc 121). There are three sub-directories, for example NR009010709. That is an FBI lab number. You can find the printed material corresponding to this lab beginning with discovery page 8766 released on September 29.

    Digging into the directory is a file ._NR009010709KB1 6. The graph for this sample can be found on discovery page 8770.

    So the trick will be seeing if there is anything in the materials from today that does not have a corresponding release from last fall. It means checking all the sample IDs from last fall's discovery - an ugly little task. I might do that tonight.

    But unless something new is in this discovery, I think you are looking at the raw data files used to generate the tables and graphs from last fall.
    Thank you!!!!

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    Hmmm...

    We already saw all of the A's DNA:

    http://www.docstoc.com/docs/document...oc_id=15087852

    At least I think so...the documents discuss obtaining samples from them all and show profiles and discuss Lee not being Caylee's father.

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    What Happened???

    What the heck happened???

    6:11 p.m. EST, February 26, 2010

    "Hundreds of pages of more evidence in the first-degree murder case against Casey Anthony have been released to her defense team, according to a notice filed Friday in Orange County Circuit Court.

    State prosecutors listed 19 items mostly CDs and a few DVDs that were released to Casey Anthony's defense as part of the discovery process.

    The items released include interviews, photos and transcripts. The notice states there are enhanced photos from the FBI of the trunk of Casey Anthony's vehicle...."

    (snipped)

    http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/...,2448621.story

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    we'll get the transcripts etc. eventually..

    Posted: 6:18 am EST March 10,2010Updated: 12:44 pm EST March 10,2010
    ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. -- New evidence in the case against Casey Anthony was released Wednesday morning, but it's incomprehensible and sheds no new light on the case.

    There are more than a 1,000 pages of documents that have been provided to the defense recently that may be publicly released soon.
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    http://www.wftv.com/news/22794649/detail.html
    my opinion...........and i happen to agree with it.....

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