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I have been trying to get anyone who thinks there is a connection to give their theory, but unfortunately haven't received a response that gives a reasoned theory, or a link to any theory previously proposed which I have overlooked.
I'm not particularly interested in Steven's case, but I am following Susan's case because friends of mine are closely involved. If there were a link between Steven's and Susan's disappearance, it would certainly help in clearing both cases up, but trying to establish a link based on an encounter between Josh and Steven in the desert is just too random for me.
I searched on this site for a while in the Steven Koechner threads to see if I couild find any of these theories, and came upon this link:
http://www.examiner.com/x-30706-Sud...nsidered-by-Utah-missing-person-investigators
In short, neither the WVC nor the St George Police departments think there is any link beyond a similarity in ages and living in Utah, but are happy to exchange information.
That's where I got to in my last post. There is no tenable link.
The only possible link I can think of would be if Josh and Steven became friends online. I feel if they ever did meet up with one another, it would have been prearranged, not just a coincidental meeting. On the day Steve was recorded by security cameras walking away from his car, it seems he was going to meet someone who then picked him up in a vehicle. If he was going to a residence or store, he would have parked in front of it or within close proximity. It would be very surprising to learn the two disappearances are related.
I have been trying to get anyone who thinks there is a connection to give their theory, but unfortunately haven't received a response that gives a reasoned theory, or a link to any theory previously proposed which I have overlooked.
I'm not particularly interested in Steven's case, but I am following Susan's case because friends of mine are closely involved. If there were a link between Steven's and Susan's disappearance, it would certainly help in clearing both cases up, but trying to establish a link based on an encounter between Josh and Steven in the desert is just too random for me.
I searched on this site for a while in the Steven Koechner threads to see if I couild find any of these theories, and came upon this link:
http://www.examiner.com/x-30706-Suddenly-Famous-Examiner~y2010m2d27-Susan-Powell-Steven-Koecher-link-considered-by-Utah-missing-person-investigators
In short, neither the WVC nor the St George Police departments think there is any link beyond a similarity in ages and living in Utah, but are happy to exchange information.
That's where I got to in my last post. There is no tenable link.
I have been trying to get anyone who thinks there is a connection to give their theory, but unfortunately haven't received a response that gives a reasoned theory, or a link to any theory previously proposed which I have overlooked.
I'm not particularly interested in Steven's case, but I am following Susan's case because friends of mine are closely involved. If there were a link between Steven's and Susan's disappearance, it would certainly help in clearing both cases up, but trying to establish a link based on an encounter between Josh and Steven in the desert is just too random for me.
I searched on this site for a while in the Steven Koechner threads to see if I couild find any of these theories, and came upon this link:
http://www.examiner.com/x-30706-Sud...nsidered-by-Utah-missing-person-investigators
In short, neither the WVC nor the St George Police departments think there is any link beyond a similarity in ages and living in Utah, but are happy to exchange information.
That's where I got to in my last post. There is no tenable link.
The only possible link I can think of would be if Josh and Steven became friends online.
I feel if they ever did meet up with one another, it would have been prearranged, not just a coincidental meeting. On the day Steve was recorded by security cameras walking away from his car, it seems he was going to meet someone who then picked him up in a vehicle. If he was going to a residence or store, he would have parked in front of it or within close proximity. It would be very surprising to learn the two disappearances are related.
I'm open to ANY theory that's fact-based, because a solution to these cases is what's needed. Despite what others may believe, I've studied to determine if I'm off-base.
Here's the problem with the "met in the desert" theory: THE MAP
Steven Koecher drove along I-80, not through the west desert.
Josh Powell claims he was in the "Pony Express" area.
You may have to move the map around, to see both A (Simpson Springs Campground) and I-80 -- but when you do, you see that there's no way to get from Simpson Springs Campground in Utah to Ruby Valley Nevada.
The paved roads don't even connect. Steven drove only along the freeways, based on the bank records and receipts. He didn't have time to slog (for no apparent reason) through hundreds of miles of muddy dirt roads -- some of which pass through no-access military areas.
That big light-blue area is Dugway Proving Grounds. You do not drive there there.
What's missing on that map, is the Utah Test and Training Range - which runs between Dugway Proving Grounds and I-80 AND THEN extends further north almost to the Idaho border. It's the Air Force's largest bombing range.
IF Steven had wanted to take a shorter route, he'd have driven up US-93 to Ruby Valley. Hollyblue knows that she and I hashed this out for almost two days, over in the Koecher thread. I'm not even the one who decided that Steven didn't go "off-route"; it was another WSer who pointed out it was near-impossible.
But many peopl have read that examiner.com article's headline, and not the full story. I categorize that non-journalistic story as "sensationalism".
Bottom line: Can anyone here show facts that link these cases ... without discarding known information?
Details ARE important.
I don't personally think there is a connection, but if there were, I know which of those two men I would pick!!!!
Was he instructed to park there for any reason? Another one that comes to mind is simply because someone wanted him to demonstrate his willingness to follow orders.Was Steve Koecher instructed to park there then walk to meet someone who didn't want his car seen at their home?
The problem I have, and I'm not saying the cases are connecting, is we do not know where Josh drove between 12:30 AM and 5:30 PM on December 7, 2009.
Do we really believe Josh Powell tells the truth about much of anything?
However, the fact he just parked and then walked away from his car, apparently walking several blocks, then just up and disappears is very suspicious to say the least.
Was Steve Koecher instructed to park there then walk to meet someone who didn't want his car seen at their home?
Is there a possibility that Steve Koecher is in victim witness protection?
Was he instructed to park there for any reason? Another one that comes to mind is simply because someone wanted him to demonstrate his willingness to follow orders.
At one point it was thought that JP might have headed in some direction other than towards the west desert. Is there any known evidence supporting that or ruling it out, other than the behavior of the investigators?
If Susan had to pick, the choice would be "neither" (frankly).
In fact, if you study their work records, they were similar. No job was ever "just right"uently.
If you study their personalities, there are *some* similarities. Although their religious views were practically opposite of each other, they were as strongly held.
Steven was unable to find "the right girl". When he did find one he thought was right, he prayed to God (who told him she was not the right girl for him). Is that the kind of guy who'd run off with a married woman who had two children?
There are some issues with Steven that I will not discuss. You can read posts by his friend gsmith, right here on WS and get some clues. There is also information from close friends, that cannot be publicly disclosed.
Steven wouldn't have driven through a muddy desert. Susan wouldn't have run off with him.
Although he's being portrayed as a "hero" for rescuing two latchkey children who were locked out of their home, all he really did was call their mother on his cellphone.
It's my personal belief that we cannot project someone's use of a cellphone into heroics involving an encounter with Josh Powell.
(gentle snippage)
If JP says he went west, I'd be looking east. Or in the garbage dump. Why take a body that far, when you can dump it in one of the gigantic trash cans that is out on the street...and have it taken away for you?
I'm more shallow than you give me credit for--I was just going by the photos!!
LOL! :crazy:
I believe the first place Josh would head for, when in a state of panic, is home to dear old dad. I think he drove towards Puyallup!
Of course we don't know what law enforcement has learned through phone records or if they have even subpoenaed Steve or Michael Powell's phone records, but I would think Josh would have stopped at a pay phone and called his father or brother then told them to go to a pay phone to call him.
I just can't fathom Josh dealing with the entire Susan disposal without having consulted someone!