LambChop
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Column A: Evidence that GZ started the fight
*Targeted TM for looking "suspicious", called it in to 911
*Followed TM despite Neighborhood Watch guidelines that explicitly state not to
*Continued to pursue TM despite 911 operator instructing him not to (refusing to give a concrete location where LE could meet him is evidence, IMO, that he was continuing to pursue TM)
*Eyewitness statement from TM's girlfriend that TM was trying to get away from GZ and she was encouraging him to do the same.
*No indication from any of the evidence that TM was, at any time, pursuing GZ.
*TM is screaming for help (as evidence by eyewitness statements from the 911 callers).
*TM is found on his back, dead, with GZ on top of him.
Column B: Evidence that TM started the fight:
*I've got nothing, so please fill in the blank (and please source your evidence, as I did).
My links to support my argument are here:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/traynor-ma...-crucial-phone/story?id=15959017#.T29m1ngqNok
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2...-zimmerman-never-tried-to-help-trayvon-martin
http://abcnews.go.com/US/neighborho...s-questionable/story?id=15907136#.T29onXgqNom
I think all the reports and witness statements claim TM was lying face down and GZ was pressing on his back while straddling his body. So TM wasn't found on his back.