Will Casey face probation?

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krt said:
What do YOU think! :floorlaugh:
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Ya know there were days I felt like saying some of the same things I had to remove from this forum. :floorlaugh: It is tough being a moderator when you feel like your head is gong to blow off, your blood pressure is putting you at risk for a stroke and you just want to say something very bad. :)

Casey got a sweet deal. And if she doesn't run with it and find a new way of life, the girl should be put away for the rest of her life. That is what I think. :maddening:
 
grandmaj said:
Ya know there were days I felt like saying some of the same things I had to remove from this forum. :floorlaugh: It is tough being a moderator when you feel like your head is gong to blow off, your blood pressure is putting you at risk for a stroke and you just want to say something very bad. :)

Casey got a sweet deal. And if she doesn't run with it and find a new way of life, the girl should be put away for the rest of her life. That is what I think. :maddening:
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We love you grandma J!
It must be hard but you and the other mods lead a good example! :woohoo:
 
charok said:
yes but respectfully speaking, isnt smuggling letters( hello cookie?) against the rules, hence NOT good behavior? also ( someone?) smuggled her a rubber (caylee type cause) bracelet too?? that was "contraband" and that too( if im not mistaken) is not good behavior...i mean ive never been in jail or prision, but ive known enough people that say certain things are not allowed, including personal effects, even a rubber bracelet( no telling what that can be used for, harm to self, or craft into a weapon, they get very resourcefull in there w/ what little they have)
so to recap, if smuggling bracelets, ie contraband in to her, and getting the guards to bend the rules for her( letters, someone said let her out of cell to visit w/ ?cookie?iirc) thats model, good behavior? im confused..
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I think they also let an inmate in CFCA's cell and gave CFCA a pair of scissors to cut the inmates hair .
 
I started seeing this particular case take a backhill slide when the defense got to rearranged the tables in the courtrom. That should have never been allowed. They put the actress flat out in front of the jury. The prosecution was at a disadvantage.

This judge bent over backwards to help the defense. It was not necessary. In his zest to not have an appeal or mistrial, he seemed to help the defense

Let's see what he does next. He sure as heck never gave any sanctions to baez either. I am very disappointed in him.
 
I have 0 expectations that Casey will have to come back and serve parole.
JB will never be found reprehensible by the FL Bar .
Cindy and George will somehow continue to make money off of their dead grandchild and will have a comfortable lifestyle.
Cheney Mason will Trademark flippin' the bird and make scads more money.
In a few years there will be a big interview ,maybe with Barbara Walters ,since Oprah's gone,and a book by Casey. Things will have cooled off,the general public will only remember bits and pieces ,enough to get interested in what Casey has to say.

The world is topsy turvy. Bad =rewarded Good=invisible. Really sad.
 
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grandmaj said:
Ya know there were days I felt like saying some of the same things I had to remove from this forum. :floorlaugh: It is tough being a moderator when you feel like your head is gong to blow off, your blood pressure is putting you at risk for a stroke and you just want to say something very bad. :)

Casey got a sweet deal. And if she doesn't run with it and find a new way of life, the girl should be put away for the rest of her life. That is what I think. :maddening:
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I appreciate your response however I was referring to do you think I was for defending FCA or hoping Karma slaps her upside the head............. :)

EVERYONE KNOWS how I feel about Ms. FCA! :floorlaugh:
 
krt said:
I appreciate your response however I was referring to do you think I was for defending FCA or hoping Karma slaps her upside the head............. :)

EVERYONE KNOWS how I feel about Ms. FCA! :floorlaugh:
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Gotcha! sorry I'm preoccupied and tired tonight. :blowkiss:
 
I've been afraid to say anything negative about HHJP BUT I will now that Whisperer has spoken. :p

The judge was fair in many ways but I felt like he constantly pandered to the defense. The judge knew what would be included in opening statements--yet he allowed Baez to begin the DT part of trial with out and out bs lies.

I keep going back to someone here stating that Judge Perry could have rejected the jurors verdict. Too bad he didn't. I lost respect for him when he let a child killer -imo-walk free never to pay for a terrible crime.

If Perry has anything to do with the parole --FCA won't suffer at all.
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rotterdam said:
So bottom line ,around 595 days is equal to a sentence of 1,460 days according to the DOC calculations. Just wow, and wow again.

Or in other words, KC , except for court fee/fines, got zilch for her check fraud conviction.
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they also calculated in "good behaviour"...
 
Wonder if the DT thinks it will help FCA's profile with that "dangerous" public if she skates on the probation?
 
Whisperer said:
How can one be on probation in jail and get credit for time served while doing it? This is incredulous. Perry let her run her fraud charges and her probation with the Lying to LE charges.

Could he have given her probation on a misdemeanor? If so, why didn't he? The only circus I see if the Defense Attorneys in this country spinning the courts to their liking using way too many laws to spin it. Somebody oughta clean out the law cupboards. They are overflowing.

I have never heard of serving a probation in jail or getting credit for your new crimes while doing it.
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BBM - I believe I read it is because he gave her the max penalty for the lying charges.
The probation upon release was the requirement to his adjudication of 7 of the 13 fraud charges. I wonder why he didn't just convict her all 13 charges?
 
Horace Finklestein said:
Wonder if the DT thinks it will help FCA's profile with that "dangerous" public if she skates on the probation?
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Exactly - if FCA cannot do probation she cannot do a real job and cannot live a real life without being in 'protective custody' ... Per JB. So did the DT really win FCA her freedom?

If you cannot do the time, don't do the crime ... FCA is going to do the time whether she is in jail or not. IMO
 
cyberborg said:
So if I understand it correctly, FCA gets time served for her check fraud sentence and gets to serve her probation while in jail facing a new trial for other charges. She is found guilty for some of those other charges while in jail and serving on probation while in jail. She basically gets time served for the new sentence other than a few more days and her probation is deemed complete even though she was facing new charges and was sentenced anew for some.

The whole time the reason FCA is really in jail is because she lied about the death of Caylee faced Murder 1 but was willing to sit in jail and roll the dice than tell it was an 'accident'. She just waited it all out and all accountability and punishment was Basically rolled into her waiting period.

Wow! What a sweet deal! FCA gambled her life and won big. If ever FCA goes to Vegas and gambles I want to be there and play whatever she is playing. What are the odds?
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Yep, and all while in Kindergarten incarceration...the County Jail and not in a Prison.
 
grandmaj said:
The judge through case law, not the probation department decides whether the probation order was carried out.

Right now they are in a position of determining if she served her probation. The lawyers all over the net disagree on this. Only Judge Perry will be the one to decide. The probation as it is described is an administrative probation which was not what was ordered by the court.

Now, I have already said because of the time delay, this order may not fly. But a thorough and full investigation of how time was calculated certainly is within the 60 day time limit and Casey may just wish that Mason let her go on probation for a year. Any calculation of the days for purposes of Judge Perry's Order can be amended. And worst case Casey could be back behind bars.
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Have you let the State know? Seems to me they need to be hit over the head with stuff like this.
 
Reasons why I am not too pessimistic about the probation hearing on Friday is because of the following:
Judge Strickland probably did consult Judge Perry prior to signing that motion. Only Judge Strickland could sign the motion since it was his ruling. Judge Perry was the logical choice to hear it, considering Judge Strickland previous history with the DT.
Why would the motion even be signed/submitted if there was no legal standing or any hope of success. A short statement to the media would have sufficed. Why would both Judges waste their time on a lost cause.
Both Judges are not like the DT team and would not do it for media attention.
So I am keeping up my hopes.
 
I'm not banking on her doing probation. Judge Perry bent over backwards for the defense and making statements that he didn't want anything to come back on appeal. No one, no one, thought that she would be acquitted of all charges, all the charges except the ones for being a liar. No one in their wildest dreams imagined that out of all the people questioned in that far off county, the ones chosen to sit on this Jury would be from the bottom of the bushel. The publicity surrounding the trial was minute by minute updates on the internet and full time slots on cable. DT pulled out the race card during jury selection, I don't think it applied but it worked. The DT is using the threat that more tax payer money will have to be used if she has to come back to Orlando. I don't think she needs protection like that but, I think this threat will work. I do not believe that this is the reason the court will give, of course, when it is decided that she did her probation in jail but regardless of the reason or reasons, I believe that because of all of the publicity surrounding the case and trial of Miss Anthony for the murder of her 2 year old daughter Caylee, Orlando and the State of Florida is happy that Miss Anthony was spotted in another State and pray she stays away.
 
okiedokietoo said:
I'm not banking on her doing probation. Judge Perry bent over backwards for the defense and making statements that he didn't want anything to come back on appeal. No one, no one, thought that she would be acquitted of all charges, all the charges except the ones for being a liar. No one in their wildest dreams imagined that out of all the people questioned in that far off county, the ones chosen to sit on this Jury would be from the bottom of the bushel. The publicity surrounding the trial was minute by minute updates on the internet and full time slots on cable. DT pulled out the race card during jury selection, I don't think it applied but it worked. The DT is using the threat that more tax payer money will have to be used if she has to come back to Orlando. I don't think she needs protection like that but, I think this threat will work. I do not believe that this is the reason the court will give, of course, when it is decided that she did her probation in jail but regardless of the reason or reasons, I believe that because of all of the publicity surrounding the case and trial of Miss Anthony for the murder of her 2 year old daughter Caylee, Orlando and the State of Florida is happy that Miss Anthony was spotted in another State and pray she stays away.
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Well, the way I see it, there is also unethical behavior involved.
Baez knew from day 1, that when probation was started by DOC one day after the sentencing that it was not what the Judge ordered. Yet, he kept his mouth shut. I would not expect K.C to say a word but Baez is also an officer of the Court and must uphold the Court's ruling in that capacity. This probation fiasco could have more than one tentacle. JMO.
How often can you play dumb.
 
rotterdam said:
Well, the way I see it, there is also unethical behavior involved.
Baez knew from day 1, that when probation was started by DOC one day after the sentencing that it was not what the Judge ordered. Yet, he kept his mouth shut. I would not expect K.C to say a word but Baez is also an officer of the Court and must uphold the Court's ruling in that capacity. This probation fiasco could have more than one tentacle. JMO.
How often can you play dumb.
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I know what you're saying and I agree with you - it's just that the DT & FCA plays dirty and so far it has worked in their favor. And playing dumb seemed to work for JB all through the trial, assuming he was playing...
(ot are we ever going to hear anything about any sort of discipline or sanctions?)
 
JSV said:
Is this what you are looking for ... Exhibit B

EMERGENCY MOTIONEmergency motion for hearing (pdf)
Exhibit A (pdf)
Exhibit B (pdf)
Exhibit C (pdf)
Exhibit D (pdf)
Exhibit E (pdf)
Exhibit F (pdf)
Probation Court Orders
Court Order 1 (pdf)
Court Order 2 (pdf)
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Thank you JSV. I will try to find these. I am looking for the sheet of paper they keep flashing on the news that says DOC has established she completed her probation and wish her luck in her future. Th.ey snipped one sentence and I was curious to see the paper in full context
 
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