He had been suspended from school in Miami after being found with an empty marijuana baggie. Miami schools have a zero-tolerance policy for drug possession
Zero tolerance for zero quantity?:rocker:
He had been suspended from school in Miami after being found with an empty marijuana baggie. Miami schools have a zero-tolerance policy for drug possession
Do we know where the home Trayvon was visiting is located in relation to the area of the shooting? I think he was trying to get back to the house as quickly as possible in order to evade the strange man following him but I think those behaviors were completely misconstrued by hyper vigilant George.
Mr Zimmerman's story I assume. The only person who can give the other side was killed by the person who gave that version. I take it with a great big grain of salt.
Ok, so wait - if Trayvon was on top of GZ and slamming his head into the sidewalk then how did GZ's shirt get the grass stains on it? I would understand it being wet - it was raining - but if on a sidewalk where no grass was...............well...............
Having had his head slammed into a sidewalk at least a couple of times - he should have been taken to the hospital.
And then there's that stuff about the suspension from school.
I just don't know what to think anymore.
JMHO
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...1_arizona-iced-tea-suv-unarmed-black-teenager
Trayvon was visiting his father's fiancée, who lived there. He had been suspended from school in Miami after being found with an empty marijuana baggie. Miami schools have a zero-tolerance policy for drug possession.
This is why all the confusion about being suspended.Why hide this?
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...-sanford-police-investigator-suspicious-death
By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel
There is a great deal of misinformation surrounding the Trayvon Martin shooting. Here are some of the most prominent misunderstandings:
Cops returned the gun to shooter George Zimmerman.
<snipped>
Untrue the gun is still being held as evidence
Cops believed Zimmerman had a "squeaky clean" criminal record.
<snipped>
Untrue, Zimmerman originally told the cops he was "squeaky clean"
The cops tested Trayvon for drugs but not Zimmerman.
<snipped>
True - Zimmerman was not tested because he was not arrested. :waitasec:
Sanford cops usually call a prosecutor to the scene of a homicide but did not that night.
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True - SPD talked to a prosecutor by phone but the prosecutor did not go to the crime scene because police believed that they didn't have enough evidence to arrest him
Zimmerman fired twice, a warning shot and a kill shot.
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Untrue - only one shot was fired
Zero tolerance for zero quantity?:rocker:
I'll help by putting the answers to these questions that also appear in the article:
My answers are in blue. Interesting that a prosecutor was called but told they didn't have enough evidence to arrest and that prosecutor just took their word for it. And that GZ wasn't tested for drugs because he wasn't arrested. Really? But yet on the road - LE will do a field sobriety test BEFORE anyone is arrested. So, that comment to me makes no sense about why he wasn't tested.
JMHO
I'll help by putting the answers to these questions that also appear in the article:
My answers are in blue. Interesting that a prosecutor was called but told they didn't have enough evidence to arrest and that prosecutor just took their word for it. And that GZ wasn't tested for drugs because he wasn't arrested. Really? But yet on the road - LE will do a field sobriety test BEFORE anyone is arrested. So, that comment to me makes no sense about why he wasn't tested.
JMHO
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...-sanford-police-investigator-suspicious-death
By Rene Stutzman, Orlando Sentinel
There is a great deal of misinformation surrounding the Trayvon Martin shooting. Here are some of the most prominent misunderstandings:
Cops returned the gun to shooter George Zimmerman.
<snipped>
Cops believed Zimmerman had a "squeaky clean" criminal record.
<snipped>
The cops tested Trayvon for drugs but not Zimmerman.
<snipped>
Sanford cops usually call a prosecutor to the scene of a homicide but did not that night.
<snipped>
Zimmerman fired twice, a warning shot and a kill shot.
<snipped>
Zero tolerance for zero quantity?:rocker:
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I'll help by putting the answers to these questions that also appear in the article:
My answers are in blue. Interesting that a prosecutor was called but told they didn't have enough evidence to arrest and that prosecutor just took their word for it. And that GZ wasn't tested for drugs because he wasn't arrested. Really? But yet on the road - LE will do a field sobriety test BEFORE anyone is arrested. So, that comment to me makes no sense about why he wasn't tested.
JMHO
Lots of new and interesting details in this new article that Daisy posted from the Orlando Sentinel.
Here's a few that caught me:
Police have been reluctant to provided details about all their evidence, but this is what they've disclosed to the Sentinel:
Zimmerman was on his way to the grocery store when he spotted Trayvon walking through his gated community
Trayvon was visiting his father's fiancée, who lived there. He had been suspended from school in Miami after being found with an empty marijuana baggie. Miami schools have a zero-tolerance policy for drug possession.
1Trayvon asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no and reached for his cell phone, he told police.
2Trayvon then said, "Well, you do now" or something similar and punched Zimmerman in the nose.
Zimmerman fell to the ground and Trayvon got on top of him and began slamming his head into the sidewalk, he told police.
Zimmerman began yelling for help.
Zimmerman then shot Trayvon once in the chest from very close range, according to authorities.
http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...1_arizona-iced-tea-suv-unarmed-black-teenager
Because that is just the report from the officers that responded to the scene. They secured his weapon when they secured the scene; that's very common. Any other evidence collected after they turned Zimmerman over to Major Crimes would not be reflected in this report. In fact, someone posted an article here in the previous thread in which the spokesperson for the PD stated they "recovered" his clothing from the night of the shooting.If there was an altercation - which we all know from the witnesses. GZ and Trayvon were in close physical contact. Where was GZ when he shot? If still in such close physical contact than GZ would have had spatter on him. That spatter would go a very long way at figuring out who was what, where and how close when the shot was fired.
Yet, SPD thought nothing of it. No mention of GZ shirt in the "partial" report we have. No mention of taking GZ's shirt into evidence (although we do have the gun taken as evidence). Why wouldn't they do that? Certainly it would be quite obvious that GZ had blood all over his shirt. What did he tell LE? Its was from his nose? And probably some was - but that's for the forensics lab to investigate.
Then there's this that I'm also wondering. Where is the slug and the casing? Was the bullet retrieved from Trayvon? If not, and it was a through and through shot - then did LE go out and find where it ended up? I don't know much about guns - so I don't know if a tek 9 will expell a casing afterward - but it they do - then did LE find it? That would tell them where GZ was standing when he fired and would be important info - if that type of gun does that.
Also, we know nothing about Trayvon's body or clothes. Did he have evidence on his knuckles that he could have punched GZ? Maybe even GZ's blood on his hand from punching? If he was truly attacking him - punching several times - I'm sure there would be evidence of that on his hands.
I just wish they would release a little bit - something. With all this silence, it tells me they don't have anything to back up with they did.
JVM on HLN right now - with the special prosecutor.
JMHO
Zero tolerance for zero quantity?:rocker: