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Old 04-28-2011, 09:44 PM
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TN - Holly Bobo, 20, Darden, believed abducted 13 April 2011 - #19

Holly Lynn Bobo was last seen early on the morning of April 13, 2011, outside of her home in Darden, Tennessee. She was seen being led away from the carport of her home toward a wooded area by a man described as approximately 5'8" to 6'0" tall and 200 pounds, wearing camouflage clothing.
Holly Lynn Bobo was last seen wearing a pink shirt and light blue jeans.
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:45 PM
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Was the FBI brought in recently or have they been involved from the beginning?
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:46 PM
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Was the FBI brought in recently or have they been involved from the beginning?
They were involved from day one.
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:51 PM
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The FBI is reported to have changed the wording from "dragged" to "led away" early on. But this ABC article from 04.24 appears to indicate they are either less involved, or not involved currently:

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[TBI Director Gwyn] said investigators still believe Bobo is in the state, but the FBI would get involved if there was evidence to suggest otherwise.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/holly-bobo-...ry?id=13448569
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Does anyone know if the searches are off now permanently, or are they waiting for weather?
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:53 PM
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They were involved from day one.
Dumb question- what decides if they get involved or not? Just if LE asks?
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:56 PM
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Dumb question- what decides if they get involved or not? Just if LE asks?
I was just wondering that myself. I thought the FBI got involved if there is evidence to the kidnapped being transported over state lines or in the case of a ransom.
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It's sad that they have called off the searchers. I wonder if their is some legal protocol as to how long a community search like that goes on before it is ended? I know people have jobs and families and cannot search forever, but it must be so hard on the family when they cut back on the searching. My heart goes out to them.
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I was just wondering that myself. I thought the FBI got involved if there is evidence to the kidnapped being transported over state lines or in the case of a ransom.
That's what I thought too!
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Old 04-28-2011, 09:59 PM
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Does anyone know if the searches are off now permanently, or are they waiting for weather?
I believe volunteers will be called in, as a need be basis.
I believe that LE is still very involved in searches.
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Here's a pretty handy guide to FBI involvement:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/arc.../t-108436.html
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http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/holly-bobo

KIDNAPPING

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Kidnapping is a Federal crime so I would think some Federal agency would be involved.
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That's what I thought too!
It was unsual for them to brought in so early, but my opinion on this is that the local LE was known to the perp. I think they may be needed people that were more "outsiders" to come in and take a look at things. MOO
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FBI is not the lead agency on this case......there may be some evidence that their crime labs can analyze that TBI doesn't have the ability to do. Hair evidence for example, TBI doesn't have the ability to analyze hair evidence and that would be forwarded to the FBI labs.
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http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/holly-bobo

KIDNAPPING

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Got it- I didn't realize that they were brought in on kidnapping cases. Thanks!
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I think it would be more unusual in this case, with a witnessed abduction and some blood at scene, not to involve as many agencies as possible, as soon as possible. It is not often that a witness exists, usually there is a period of time before a person of this age would be known to be missing. But they pretty much knew they had something criminal right away, so why not get all the help they could, especially when she was not found right away?
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Got it- I didn't realize that they were brought in on kidnapping cases. Thanks!
But usually they only brought in on a kidnapping case when other issues are present as well.... ie crossing state lines or in the commision of another Federal crime. LE however can invite them in at any point in a case and they will usually comply. What seems so different in this situation is that local LE brought them in immediately!
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I imagine that the phone call that brought the FBI in was made by the TBI. Chain of command.
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Okay, I'm just gonna ask, b/c I am not sure I know.

What is the difference between abduction and kidnapping?

Before I came to this forum, my answer would have been: a Ransom.

I just looked something up that says:

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Kidnapping is the aggravated (for ransom or injury) false imprisonment of a person.
Read more: Children's Rights - Kidnapping And Abduction - Act, Sex, Passed, Public, Penalties, and Offenders http://law.jrank.org/pages/12083/Chi...#ixzz1KsGPzHeF


The more I'm reading the less I see there is a difference between the 2...

Okay, there is this slight distinction:

Abduction - child goes willingly but against parents wishes.
Kidnapping - agrravated false imprisonment against will.

tomatoe/tomatah?

does anyone know?
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Technically, the difference between the two can be seen in the etymology of the term "kidnapper": kid + napper, the latter an archaic usage now obsolete - a "napper" was originally a sheep stealer. And a kid is slang, of course, for a child. The term "kidnap" ought always to relate to the taking of a child. An abduction carries no such connotation.
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Okay, I'm just gonna ask, b/c I am not sure I know.

What is the difference between abduction and kidnapping?

Before I came to this forum, my answer would have been: a Ransom.

I just looked something up that says:



Read more: Children's Rights - Kidnapping And Abduction - Act, Sex, Passed, Public, Penalties, and Offenders http://law.jrank.org/pages/12083/Chi...#ixzz1KsGPzHeF


The more I'm reading the less I see there is a difference between the 2...

Okay, there is this slight distinction:

Abduction - child goes willingly but against parents wishes.
Kidnapping - agrravated false imprisonment against will.

tomatoe/tomatah?

does anyone know?
I'd never really thought about it til you brought it up lol. Personally, the words are synonymous to me.
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Okay, I'm just gonna ask, b/c I am not sure I know.

What is the difference between abduction and kidnapping?

Before I came to this forum, my answer would have been: a Ransom.

I just looked something up that says:



Read more: Children's Rights - Kidnapping And Abduction - Act, Sex, Passed, Public, Penalties, and Offenders http://law.jrank.org/pages/12083/Chi...#ixzz1KsGPzHeF


The more I'm reading the less I see there is a difference between the 2...

Okay, there is this slight distinction:

Abduction - child goes willingly but against parents wishes.
Kidnapping - agrravated false imprisonment against will.

tomatoe/tomatah?

does anyone know?
An abductor takes a victim for his own selfish purposes and tries to maintain a low or anonymous profile. A kidnapper eventually makes his abduction known, either to the media or strictly to the immediate family of his victim. He uses his captive as a bargaining tool, whereas the typical abductor keeps his captive as secret as possible.
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An abductor takes a victim for his own selfish purposes and tries to maintain a low or anonymous profile. A kidnapper eventually makes his abduction known, either to the media or strictly to the immediate family of his victim. He uses his captive as a bargaining tool, whereas the typical abductor keeps his captive as secret as possible.
That makes a lot of sense! Thank you!
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