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Old 04-09-2012, 06:58 PM
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17 y/o Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #20

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Old 04-09-2012, 07:05 PM
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JVM says attorneys confirm to them the GZ website is legit...
This as opposed to just coming forward? I just don't get it...
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:08 PM
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GZ talked to Taafe today and Taafe reading off the site name... said GZ wanted everyone in the media to know it...
GZ wanted to share that on Feb 2nd he saw a young black man peering into taafe's house
JVM jumps in LOL
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:09 PM
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You know a case on Websleuths is hot when the first post gets longer and longer and has lots of warnings.

Sorry, just had to say that.

Also want to point out that we have a media thread just for Trayvon, so if you can't find an article on the threads you can probably find it here:

Trayvon Martin Shooting Media Thread - NO DISCUSSION - Page 4 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:10 PM
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Taafe getting heated (again?) Seems like Taafe has an agenda that JVM does not have
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:12 PM
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FT saying that Zimmerman was walking with his 100 pound Rottweiller and his 9mm when he supposedly saw someone suspicious around FT's home.

Good Lord! LOL FT is gonna bury GZ all by himself.

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Old 04-09-2012, 07:13 PM
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GZ talked to Taafe today and Taafe reading off the site name... said GZ wanted everyone in the media to know it...
GZ wanted to share that on Feb 2nd he saw a young black man peering into taafe's house
JVM jumps in LOL
Did you hear him say GZ was wearing his gun the night someone looked in FT's window ?
which leads me to believe GZ carried his gun on all his "patrols"

Again he's doing GZ no favors !

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Old 04-09-2012, 07:15 PM
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Did you hear him say GZ was wearing his gun the night someone looked in FT's window ?
which leads me to believe GZ carried his gun on all his "patrols"

Again he's doing GZ no favors !

HOLY that's true!
Keep talking Frank!
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:16 PM
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FT saying that Zimmerman was walking with his 100 pound Rottweiller and his 9mm when he supposedly saw someone suspicious around FT's home.

Good Lord! LOL FT is gonna bury GZ all by himself.

MOO
That is just unbelievable!!!

I can't wait to hear what he says next!
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:16 PM
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If GZ's attrny's were smart they would put out a disclaimer or some legal thingy to make sure Mr. T.'s comments do not represent their client.

(I let myself out of the corner I'll be good )
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:17 PM
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JVM says attorneys confirm to them the GZ website is legit...
This as opposed to just coming forward? I just don't get it...
If there is a case he cant come forward till after the case.
IF there wont be a case we will hear from him much sooner.
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:19 PM
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"Mr. Wolfinger made the decision that no further investigation was needed because GZ claimed SYG and under the law they could not press charges."
Police were told they could not arrest him, not that they had to stop their investigation. Your source for this was a liberal forum??
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:19 PM
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Did you hear him say GZ was wearing his gun the night someone looked in FT's window ?
which leads me to believe GZ carried his gun on all his "patrols"

Again he's doing GZ no favors !

Usualy those who carry - carry most of the time if not all the time.

that is what I hear. what do I know.
Me No like Gun....
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I always miss my opportunity to comment at the right time. Stupid work

Anyway, back to grills: I know a woman who has a gold grill, and, she's a police officer.
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:24 PM
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Police were told they could not arrest him, not that they had to stop their investigation. Your source for this was a liberal forum??
But why would they continue to investigate a case where they were prevented from making an arrest? The SA's words implied that he would not charge the alleged perp, so what would be the point?
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Old 04-09-2012, 07:25 PM
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So, does Zimmerman have to claim taxes on these donations? It isn't a "foundation" is it? I won't click on the link, so I really have no idea what it's all about?

I find it really weird that Zimmerman's lawyers have never even met him??

What's with FT's face? He looks the same color as Snookie?

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Usualy those who carry - carry most of the time if not all the time.

that is what I hear. what do I know.
Me No like Gun....
I grew up with guns, hunting and fishing. I still don't know where the key is to the gun cabinet or the key where the bullets are kept in my parents home. I am 48. I think mom will let me know when I grow up a little more.

George Zimmerman wasn't going to let a little thing like responsible gun ownership and safety get in his way.

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JMO, but FT doesn't seem to like women much, either. If he's so secure in what he's saying, they why the interrupting, condescending tone?
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Bringing this note from SoSueMe over from the last thread:

Folks, please bear with us while we try to set up another forum where the protests, political issues, civil rights leaders and racial aspects of this case may be discussed. We want to keep this thread strictly about the case and the known facts surrounding the case thus far.

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I wish GZ had his 100 lb Rottweiler the night he saw Trayvon... maybe all TM would have ended up with was a dog bite or a few scratches
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when I went to use our ladder to get a Frisbee off the garage roof..




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You know a case on Websleuths is hot when the first post gets longer and longer and has lots of warnings.

Sorry, just had to say that.

Also want to point out that we have a media thread just for Trayvon, so if you can't find an article on the threads you can probably find it here:

Trayvon Martin Shooting Media Thread - NO DISCUSSION - Page 4 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community
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This is the first time I have actually watched live news coverage and FT reminds me of LP.
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In the last thread the word revenge was being thrown around. IMO, that's more semantics and distraction. A defense attorney will claim a prosecutor or victim is being vengeful and be correct. But that does not negate the right for the prosecutor and victim to seek justice. Not all vengeful actions are wrong.

There are many reasons for trademarking a name. It's called living in the year 2012. Trayvon's parents would be fools not to trademark his name.

Lawsuits are not just about money. But unfortunately that's sometimes the only legal way to make someone understand that what they did was wrong and send a message that the bad behavior has to stop. People finally get it when money is taken out of their pocket.
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Just an observation, but I don't think FT respects women either... he was totally out of line with his finger pointing and yelling at that woman.

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Jackson - such obnoxious behavior. This is the same woman who said GZ fired a warning shot before shooting TM.
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