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Old 06-09-2007, 02:43 AM
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The Doe Network, Part 3: Who is Princess Blue?

For convenience here are the links to parts one and two.

Part 1
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...ht=doe+network

Part 2
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sho...=48762&page=15
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Old 06-09-2007, 02:51 AM
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These are both sketches of Princess Blue. Please note that no one knows her what her hair color, eye color, or skin tone was. Focusing on her facial structure and imagining her with any hair color, eye color, and skin tone may help bring back memories of who she was. Princess Blue may have been White (aka Caucasian) with the possibility of mixed race ancestry.




This is part two of a thread called, The Doe Network" at http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=48232

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Case File 137UFTX

Please Note: She is now being described as, "White" on the TX dps site. This has recently been changed. It is a possibility that she was White with the possibility of mixed race ancestry.
Victim's Ring
Unidentified White / Hispanic Female
  • The victim was discovered on September 10, 1990 in Brazoria County, Texas.
  • Estimated Date of Death: 6 months - 1 year

Vital Statistics
  • Estimated age: 16 - 22 years old
  • Approximate Height and Weight: 4'10" - 5'2"
  • Distinguishing Characteristics: The victim possibly had a tumor on her knee.
  • Dentals: Dental information available
  • DNA: IN CODIS
  • Jewelry: A gold band with 6 clear stones, 2 thin silver bands, a silver band with a scroll design, a Robert E. Lee High School ring (1975), a silver ring with a turquoise unicorn and a pearl-beaded bracelet.

Victim's Rings
Case History
The victim was located on a pile of debris at the end of a Brazoria County road on September 10, 1990
The skeleton was found by an Alvin man who had pulled off the highway to find a place to urinate. He stepped behind a barricade and saw a skull in an old tire.
Authorities beleive the rings are the clue to solving the case. Three rings were on the skeleton's fingers. One was silver with a scroll design, another had a turquoise unicorn on it. But investigators think the 1975 Lee High School ring probably has the best chance of leading to her identity. A jeweler told investigators the ring was a size 9 1/2 and had been resized twice. The person it fit was probably about 175 pounds. She would have been far too young for the 1975 class ring to be hers. It could have been given to her by an aunt, an older sister, by anybody.
The company that made Lee High School's rings doesn't have records from 1975. The Lee class of 1975 probably had about 150 girls. Authorities would like to hear from any of the girls who lost a ring or gave it to somebody else. An ornate "L" inlaid in the blue stone could have stood for the owner's last name or for Lee High School.
No traces of drugs were found in the bone marrow.

Manvel, Texas
Manvel Police Department
POC: Jay Coffman - 281-489-1212
Saturday, September 2, 2006




Ring is top clue in cold case

Teens Remains were found along Brazoria County road in 1990


By: Richard Stewart (richard.stewart@chron.com), Houston Chronicle



ANGLETON, TEXAS - A well-worn ring from the 1975 class of Houston's Robert E. Lee High School is the main evidence police have to try to unravel a 16-year-old mystery. It was found on the finger of a skeleton at the end of a Brazoria County road in 1990.



"It's not much to go on," said Manvel police Detective Jay Coffman, "but it's about all we've got."



In the nine years since the remains were found, investigators have not been able to tell what happened to the female victim, how she got to be on a pile of debris or, more importantly, who she was.



"Somebody's missing this girl," Coffman said, holding the ring. Somebody is missing the ring, too, he said, because he doubts it originally belonged to the victim.



A medical examiner's report estimated that the skeleton found on September 10, 1990, was that of a girl about 17 years old, plus or minus two years, Coffman said. She would have been far too young for the 1975 class ring to be hers.

(Please Note: Princess Blue's time of death has recently been changed from between 6 months to 1 year prior to being found on September 10th, 1990 to, "Unknown." Therefore, it is possible that the ring did originally belong to her. I am currently trying to work this possibility out with the fact that it was reported that bone marrow was taken from at least one of her bones for drug testing. I don't know how there would have been viable bone marrow left in 1990 if she had been killed years before in the mid 70's. Please look for updated information on this in future posts).



"It could have been given to her by an aunt, an older sisters, by anybody," Coffman said.



Richard Rosser, an investigator with the Brazoria County Sheriff's Department, is working with Coffman to solve the mystery.



"Back then, Brazoria County was a dumping ground for bodies of people killed in Houston," Rosser said. "It seemed like we had at least one a month."



The skeleton was found by an Alvin man who had pulled off the highway to find a place to urinate. He told investigators that he stepped behind a barricade and saw a skull in an old tire.



Investigators have no clues as to how she died. No traces of drugs were found in the bone marrow. Medical examiners estimated she had been dead six months to a year.



The victim was about 5 feet tall, plus or minus 2 inches. Medical examiners said the skeleton was probably that of a Hispanic female.



Investigators looked at dozens of different reports of missing teenage girls, but none seemed to match the skeleton.



Three rings were on the skeleton's fingers. One was silver with a scroll design, another had a turquoise unicorn on it. But investigators think the 1975 Lee High School ring probably has the best chance of leading to her identity.



A jeweler recently told investigators the ring was a size 91/2 and had been resized twice. The person it fit was probably about 175 pounds. [Please Note: The TX dps site has changed her weight to, "unknown". A forensic pathologist was not used to help determine her weight. Going by just the ring size would not necessarily be accurate]



An ornate "L" inlaid in the blue stone could have stood for the owner's last name or for Lee High School. The company that made Lee High School's rings doesn't have records from 1975, Rosser said.



The Lee class of 1975 probably had about 150 girls, Rosser said. He would like to hear from any of them who lost a ring or gave it to somebody else. The skeleton is now at the University of North Texas Health Science Center at Forth Worth. That facility operates the Texas Missing Persons DNA Database, which, in turn, feeds information about missing persons to the Combined DNA Index System (CODIS), operated by the Federal Bureau of Investigation.



If investigators get new leads, they can try to test the DNA of relatives to identify her.



"We would at least have a name," Coffman said.



Anyone with information about this case can contact Manvel Police Detective Jay Coffman at 281-489-1212 or e-mail him at jcoffman@manvelpd.org.
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Old 06-09-2007, 02:57 AM
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Sloane, please check your PM's--they are runningith overith lol.

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Old 06-09-2007, 03:02 AM
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Sable you are quick! Thank you so much for copying the info. I too thought the thread was long, so I hope it is okay with everyone that I started a new one. I sent PM's to the core group members and gave them a link.

I couldn't include one for sloane, but since I sleft the link for this thread on the last post I think everyone can find this easily.

I haven't heard from MrsG for some time, and I PM'd her a little while ago. I hope she is doing okay, but I know she has a lot going on.

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Old 06-09-2007, 03:16 AM
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I am still searching ,I know all all of you are better at it than me, will still keep trying
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Old 06-09-2007, 03:29 AM
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Thank you sissy. I am probably not as good as you at it, or at least my dial up isn't. Can you tell me the names of the major local TV stations are? For example, we have one called KVUE 24. Then I can google it and hopefully find it. Thanks muches

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Old 06-09-2007, 03:37 AM
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lion,These are the major local news... we have krtk 13, khou 11 and krpc 12 , there are a few smaller ones and I will keep searching
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Old 06-09-2007, 04:30 AM
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search links for texas:
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http://www.genlookups.com/texas_divorces/
http://www.usa-people-search.com/Default.aspx?view=PE
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http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi

and there's a few listed here also: http://someoneknowsme.com/upload/index.php?showtopic=62
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Old 06-09-2007, 04:31 AM
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Hey, I can't find my texas marriage link...anyone have it???

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Hi rich. Here it is. You originally gave it to me. So now I am giving it back to you.

http://www.genlookups.com/texas_marriages/



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Old 06-09-2007, 04:47 AM
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Hi rich. Here it is. You originally gave it to me. So now I am giving it back to you.

http://www.genlookups.com/texas_marriages/



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Oh thank gawd...I thought I had lost it forever! Thank you!
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lion,These are the major local news... we have krtk 13, khou 11 and krpc 12 , there are a few smaller ones and I will keep searching
Thank you sissy.

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Oh thank gawd...I thought I had lost it forever! Thank you!
Just don't forget to give it back when your done lol.

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Old 06-09-2007, 12:58 PM
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Tabbetha Kay Worford

The Doe Network:
Case File 955DFFL


Tabbetha Kay Worford
Missing since May 5, 1990 from Pensacola, Escambia County, Florida.
Classification: Endangered Missing



Vital Statistics
  • Date Of Birth: July 23, 1970
  • Age at Time of Disappearance: 19 years old
  • Height and Weight at Time of Disappearance: 4'11; 85 lbs.
  • Distinguishing Characteristics: White female. Blonde hair; blue eyes.
  • Medical: Tabbetha has a club foot.
Circumstances of Disappearance
Worford disappeared from her North Fairfiled Road Apartment the night of May 5, 1990.
Worford’s baby was found abandoned on the doorstep of the ex-wife of the baby’s father, Tim Reno


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If you have any information concerning this case, please contact:
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850-436-9599
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Agency Case Number: 90S681230
NCIC Number: M-423169639
Please refer to this number when contacting any agency with information regarding this case. Source Information:
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http://doenetwork.org/cases/955dffl.html

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Old 06-09-2007, 01:13 PM
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Morgan Anne Munson

Morgan Anne Munson


Missing Since:
Age: 16
Missing From: Baton Rouge, LA
Sex: Female
Height: 5 ft.
Weight: 120 lbs.
Eye Color: Blue
Hair Color: Brown
Race: Caucasian
Complexion: Fair
Birth Date:
Last seen wearing: Unknown.
Last Seen: Morgan was last seen boarding a Greyhound bus in Baton Rouge, LA to go to Houston, TX. She has not been seen or heard from since.

Please call the Houston Police Department at (713) 731-5224. Or Call Texas EquuSearch at 281-309-9500 or Toll-free (877) 270-9500. Fax: 281-534-6719

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I edited down the Morgan Munson page as much as I could, and I have no idea when she went missing, though I spent several hours trying to track it down. I'll check the Houston Chron archives now and see if I can find anything there.
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Hi Lanie. I have a gut feeling about what may have happened to poor Tabbetha. I find it odd that her baby was found, "abandoned" on the doorstep of the ex-wife of the baby's father. Hmmm. My guess is that is the last place that a woman would leave a baby in most cases. Very strange. I don't know how much of Princess Blue's skeletal remains were found in Manvel. If they have bones from both feet and ankles they would have been able to tell and would have reported that she had a club foot. But, we just don't know. We want to hold on to any possible match, but I doubt this would be her.

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Old 06-09-2007, 02:03 PM
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Sable on the previous thread you had asked what Kimberly Shawn Cheatham's mother's maiden name is and it is Coates. None of them in the class of 75 alumni either. First thing I checked was for her parents or siblings being in the Class of 75.
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Old 06-09-2007, 02:05 PM
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Even though Morgan has a fair complexion with blue eyes it does not rule her out as being our Princess Blue. Princess could have had any type of complexion--we just don't know.

It is interesting that she was last seen boarding a bus heading to Houston, and she is the right height. I wonder if we can find out if she has ties to Houston to see where if at all the ring might fit in.

Do you have the link for the page on Morgan that you posted? I want to email TX Equisearch and ask them if they have a date last seen for her, and I want to direct them to the link.

Thank you for doing this research and posting it for us, Lanie!

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Old 06-09-2007, 02:28 PM
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The link for Morgan is the giant blue underlined thing at the bottom of the page. When I first tried to post it, the whole thing was humongous, so I shrank the fonts down some.

I agree with you about having a good guess about what happened to Tabbetha. I still think she could be possible, though remote. The reports for Princess Blue sometimes refer to "incomplete skeletal remains", which could explain the club foot, but it is a pretty far distance to dump a body if my suspicions are correct.
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I agree with you about having a good guess about what happened to Tabbetha. I still think she could be possible, though remote. The reports for Princess Blue sometimes refer to "incomplete skeletal remains", which could explain the club foot, but it is a pretty far distance to dump a body if my suspicions are correct.
Lanie, I agree that it would be a pretty far ride to dump a body if it were her and the ex had anything to do with it. It would be too far removed from the ring and from the Houston area. Chances are if he is responsible, he dumped her close by or at least fairly close by. I really think that because there are two strong connections to the Houston area(the REL High School ring and that she was found in Manvel, TX near Houston) that she was either originally from the Houston area or she had a definite connection the the Houston area.

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Old 06-11-2007, 02:57 AM
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Hi everyone. I still have not intently read the letter, but I did notice something that we may want to change. Under Princess' vital statistics it states that her body my have been out there since the seventies. I am afraid that if someone knows a girl who went missing in say 1989 who fits the description except for that they may not come forward. The truth is that we don't know how long she was out there. I don't think that statement was made by a forensic specialist but instead possibly a member of LE who simply didn't know how long she was out there for.

Although, I can't find reliable info to answer certain forensic questions, certain things tell me that she most likely was not out there since the 70's. They have dentals, for example. Remains left out in all weather in a humid area like Houston probably would not have intact teeth for dentals. Also, she still had viable bone marrow which was tested for drugs. Chances are if she were out there since the 70's, that would not be the case.

We have all heard of cases where DNA and nearly or fully complete remains have been found for people or animals who lived up to thousands of years ago. However, those cases are special. There were either frozen, mummified or fossilized due to the conditions that they remained in for all that time. In the Houston area decomposition would be quick and remains would most likely not be intact for very long. The combination of routine high humidity with high heat would accelerate decomposition.

I am thinking that instead we might say something like, "Her remains may have been out there for as long as the 1970's, however her time of death was more likely in the late 80's to early 1990."

This way we cover our bases all around. What does everyone think?

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Old 06-11-2007, 04:00 AM
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I am so sorry but I never did find anything more about this story, not in the news paper either
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That is okay, sissy. Thank you for searching! There are several articles in Houston papers, but I was trying to see if there was a TV news report so I could see the video--even though it might take 15 minutes to download it if it works at all.

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Old 06-11-2007, 12:24 PM
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I have been unable to access the Texas Equusearch website. It says I do not have permission to view it. Can someone else try and see what happens?
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