BUT in the trial, GZ and his lawyer can only use the regular self-defense law, not SYG.
I wonder if GZ goes before a judge and he deems it a SYG case and releases him ,Can GZ turn around and sue for being jailed?The reason for the SYG is so if you have to use force to protect yourself you do not wind up in jail.
Been lurking for a while, and have been deeply entrenched in this case.
Just wanted to say hello and tell you folks how much I appreciate the wealth of knowledge here.
That's all for now.
I do like Richard Hornsby I too wish he would drop in and help us understand this law and how it works.
And Richard if you do drop by.....
my question to you is would you have taken on this case if asked to?
Marine in trouble for tweet about Trayvon Martin shooting...
A Marine at Twenty-nine Palms is facing punishment after making an "inappropriate" reference to the Trayvon Martin case in a Twitter message, the Marine Corps said Saturday.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sns-la-lanews-marine-in-trouble-for-tweet-a-20120414,0,469149.story
Apparently he has never lost a SYG case.
And if I were in Zimmerman's shoes I would have been looking for a lawyer experienced in SYG.
His current lawyer seems to be better than the other two, but still no experience with SYG? What's Zimmerman thinking?
Apparently he has never lost a SYG case.
And if I were in Zimmerman's shoes I would have been looking for a lawyer experienced in SYG.
His current lawyer seems to be better than the other two, but still no experience with SYG? What's Zimmerman thinking?
He tweeted: "Rifle range all day today. Shooting black all day like George Zimmerman." (from ^ link)
Sure we don't have a racism issue in this country... (puts head back in sand...)
I think RH would know more about his own cases than CBS news. :waitasec:I am going by what cbs news article said. He litigated 15 cases and won them all.
"Trial lawyer Richard Hornsby has litigated 15 "Stand Your Ground" cases - none of them homicides - and won them all."
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505263_...-case-against-zimmerman-questioned/?tag=stack
That's not what he himself says:
Good discussion on the case and the SYG defense, and Richard Hornsby is interviewed:
http://www.npr.org/2012/04/12/150507...zimmerman-case
Excerpts from Hornsby:
Quote:
If he decides there are no challenges worth making before the arraignment, he'll file a written plea of not guilty, and that arraignment will actually be waived, and it will never be held by the judge. Then after that, the next major thing I think the public will get to see is there will likely be a hearing on the Stand Your Ground motion, the defense - what we call an immunity hearing, where George Zimmerman will have to present evidence to establish that he was legally defending himself.
And if he establishes that by a preponderance of the evidence, then the judge will be required to dismiss the charge.
Quote:
Is it successful? No, I would not say that people are filing these motions left and right and winning. You know, I've filed maybe 15 motions, Stand Your Ground motions to dismiss, since the law has been implemented, and I've only won two or three of them at the - you know, in front of a judge. Because, again, the judge has to believe the defendant's version of the events and believe the defendant was reasonably defending himself.
And many times, if you have, you know, a defendant and a victim come in, and they're both equally credible, it's sometimes hard for the defendant to meet that burden. The judge says, well, I think a jury should decide this.
You know, the big issue in George Zimmerman's case is, of course, Trayvon Martin isn't around to tell his side of the story, and so the prosecutor is going to have to tell Trayvon Martin's story through circumstantial evidence and things of that nature.
See post #227
IMO The masses will go crazy if GZ goes before a judge and the judge says yes your right it is SYG and releases him.If it goes to trial and he is acquitted IMO Those who believe he was killed for walking while black will make what happened after Rodney King look tame.JMO
(Gently pulls Nomoresorrow's head out of the sand.)
come on girl don't give up just yet, there is work to be done for our children to see.
I totally agree with you. Chit happens. I think the only reason people question TM's dad that night is because that very day Trayvon was suspended for 10 days and for the third time. So some might wonder why the kid was even allowed out the door that night. And why dad just assumed he went to the movies. He was suspended that day and they had no problem with him going off to the movies, with out asking or telling anyone, after telling his kid brother he was going off to get him candy? I am not bashing, just explaining why some might wonder about it. If my 17 yr old says I am coming right back with candy, and I am just walking to the store, then I don't go to bed assuming everything is fine, if he never comes back that night. I know a few people will yell at me for asking these questions, but I am responding to a post in which the questions were already asked.
Your friends son was in his own hometown, so it made more sense that he had found a ride with a friend somewhere. And he wasnt grounded.
By projecting the outcome, you're essentially saying, IF the judge rules against GZ's SYG defense, he/she is only doing so because of public pressure? You couldn't/would'nt accept that a decision made against the SYG defense by a judge could be grounded in exact law pertaining to the SYG defense itself? Cause I'm thinking, IF the judge rules in favor of the SYG defense, he/she will include an explanation of the law and how it applies in this case and, while I may not like it, my anger will be directed at changing the SYG law itself - if that includes PEACEFUL civil disobedience, so be it.
AMOO~
And the difference between regular SYG and self-defense would be what? SYG is a self-defense law.
I wonder if GZ goes before a judge and he deems it a SYG case and releases him ,Can GZ turn around and sue for being jailed?The reason for the SYG is so if you have to use force to protect yourself you do not wind up in jail.