2011.05.11 Kc sick removed from court

[Kat]

Read anything in your books about people who take pleasure in the suffering of others?

No none of the books I was referred to read covered sadism. I'm not sure I want to delve into the psychology even in layman's terms of sadism. JMHO

 

[butwhatif?]

ETA: I believe the term for self soothing behaviors which are repetetive, sort of like a tic, is called "stimming", for stimulating themselves. Read up on it on Google if you'd like. It's seen in mental issues. Some autistic children have it, for one. They will repeat one gesture over and over, like beating a hand on a table constantly, etc.

RSBM
What's interesting to note is that ICA didn't appear to have any of these stimming behaviours prior to being faced with sitting in the courtroom.

Besides OCD, PDD's/ ASD's, and Tourettes- there is another cause of these repetitive movements- which could be very deliberate for visual 'proof' of a possible defense. ( more spaghetti to throw at the wall)

Focal (or simple/complex) seizures can cause these automatisms and generally when these repetitive movements are present it indicates a 'complex' seizure which is considered an altered state of consciousness, which can result in memory loss . (which would be very convenient for ICA to explain away many negative behaviours)
A clear EEG does not and cannot rule out this seizure disorder, which is why these repetitive actions would be useful for a jury to see from the defendant from a defense POV.
Jacksonian seizures are included in simple/complex (focal) seizures which often result in weakness/tingling numbness and muscle spasms/contractions often starting in the hands.
These Jacksonian seizures only last a short time,which would explain her swift recovery.
Note: I'm not saying that I believe she has this disorder, just that it could possibly be a ploy used by ICA and co, when taking into account the alleged seizure she had while with JG.

JMO

 

[justthinkin]

I was out of pocket today, babysitting my granddaughter, and did not get to see today's proceedings. Did see the short video of ICA leaving the courtroom, clutching her right arm, and then reentering the courtroom, clutching her left arm.

Was she having problems with both arms or just one? I had gathered it was only one. If one, then that girl sure has a short attention span, and couldn't remember which arm was supposed to be hurting. Why am I thinking that's probably the case? Hmmm. Mainly because liars tend to trip themselves up if given enough opportunity.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Her airway is clear and she's breathing. She's conscious and alert. There are no signs of bleeding or blood loss. She can self ambulate. After her dramatic escort out of the courtroom, she's attended to by her lawyer, not medical personnel and is deemed fit to return to court.
Such a dramatic medical emergency. Makes you wonder how the family reacted when she started to grow a huge abdominal tumor. Oh wait, they ignored it.

Especially when Cindy - a nurse of decomposition - was Casey's mother

 

[justthinkin]

No none of the books I was referred to read covered sadism. I'm not sure I want to delve into the psychology even in layman's terms of sadism. JMHO

Kat,

Actually psychopaths or sociopaths generally take pleasure in the suffering of others. That's one of the things that sets them apart from us normals. They are sadistic by nature. To what extreme they carry it out depends on where they are on the scale.

Just my lay person's opinion.

 

[azwriter]

Ha. And I agree.

I have recently come down with some social anxiety. Just moved to a new state (DH is a military dude and we move all the time), I've gained a ton of weight and for some reason, answering the phone and going over to meet new people and even THINKING about starting over has me pretty much sandbagged. To top it all off with finding another doctor to help me out with this new problem on top of being a successful bi-polar sufferer has really caused me to feel comfy in my home, my home alone with the doggies.

I get numb, tingly and do exactly what some of you guys have mentioned earlier...pick at my skin/head and really zone out to the point of almost forgetting to breathe at times.

But you know what? Life still has to go on. Sure, I've got work to do to find a doc, find a job, find some friends...but before that big stuff happens? I have to eat, have to take care of the poopsters, maintain a house and talk and inquire about my family (especially right now cause my little brother is going through some major legal problems that have taken over our family...)

This isn't a pity party on me...but LIFE STILL HAS TO GO ON. Anxiety or not. I have to go tot he grocery store to get foods for me and the poopster and The Soldier when he is here...and as much as that leaves me scared and nervous and maybe short on breath? I STILL HAVE TO DO IT. Meds or not.

So she can have a panic attack. Real or faked. But she is still gonna have to do this. Face this...guilty or not. All of us that suffer from anxiety, whether it be large or small scaled, have to go on with life, small steps, big steps preventative steps...whatever. WE HAVE TO GO ON WITH WHATEVER LIFE GIVES US...ON A DAILY BASIS.

It sucks to have anxiety. It's horrible and for those of you who suffer, I applaud you for speaking out about it, telling everyone what it does to you an how you deal with it. Not only does WS figure out the horrible details of crimes and guilty/non guilty people and find missing people...we learn so much from eachother...so much. Anxiety is a super real thing...detrimental to a lot of people.

So, Ms. Anthony can have her panic attack and deal with it the way everyone else deals with it. Face life. This is something she isn't going to get out of...

JMOO...I spoke too long, sorry!!!

Summer Raye, thanks for speaking out. I love your attitude about your problems. You got spunk gal!

 

[PAXIMUS]

No none of the books I was referred to read covered sadism. I'm not sure I want to delve into the psychology even in layman's terms of sadism. JMHO

Sadly I see a lot of it on these forums, a desire to hang the accused out to dry before they have even had their day in court.

 

[beach]

Reminder -

The topic of this thread is KC sick - removed from court on 5/11/11.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

I realize that I'm much older than Casey, but when I sit for long periods of time, I tend to get numbness and tingling in my left arm/hand. I have slight lumbar scolisis that is a likely culprit, but sitting or standing for prolonged periods of time probably isn't good for anyone. Except for the fussing with her hair, clothes, etc., Casey doesn't move around a lot in her chair. Sometimes she doesn't even move around during breaks. I wish someone on the DT would suggest that she move around a little or even do some bending and stretching so she doesn't have future episodes that might be caused by prolonged sitting. jmo