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Can someone give me a link to the video from today? I just finished watching part 1-6 on channel 2, but part 7 is actually from the beginning of the day! It's misnumbered and they don't have part 7 from what I can see. Does anyone have a different link to all the video?
 
Originally Posted by Turnadot
For the first time since the 911 call, I empathised with Cindy today. She wanted to do right by Caylee, and she did, but what seemed clear to me is that she also wanted to help her daughter. She still wanted to, even after she accepted the truth. I can certainly understand not wanting to help sink the needle in. Baez's defense strategy made helping KC impossible. Cindy looked torn apart on the stand today, and I couldn't help by cry for her.

mck16 said:
I cried too. Especially when she was identifying the bed.
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I do not have sympathy for Cindy, and did not want to cry with her today ... but I did.
At the same time though, I thought she was overacting the tears a bit when she looked at Caylee's bed and Caylee's playhouse and sand box and toys ... it's not like she hasn't seen all of these things, up close and personal EVERY DAY of her life since June 16th ... it's not like she was just seeing these things that remind her of Caylee for the first time in a long time .... does she cry like she did on the stand EVERY DAY at home when she sees Caylee's things???? Just sayin ....

oh, and when she asked the Judge if they would remove the photo of Caylee on the monitor because she would get upset when she looked at it and didn't want to cry .... that was a bit much IMO. She has photos of Caylee allll over her home that she sees every day!!!! George took a small photo of Caylee to the witness stand with him the first day he testified.
 
IMO the biggest revelation from CA testimony is -- on June 16th the flurry of phone calls CA received at work from ICA - was ICA looking for a sitter - and one of the only few times CA said "NO" - ICA gave CA the ultimate punishment for that ...and CA will have to live with that for the rest of her life
 
I wonder if Lippman might have filed a motion that asks the judge to prohibit any contact or attempted contact from the defense or ICA during the trial. Those two notes at the end of the day (yesterday and today) really have me thinking that's what it could be. Witness tampering?
 
per Amster above: ICA worked for Universal after Caylee was born? CA is adamant that she did

mine:
in testimony today CA is adamant that ICA reported to her that she was working for Universal after the birth of Caylee.

these are two very different sentences with two very different meanings.
 
Well was little Casey showing her "AMAZING" personality today??? I did not get to watch the whole thing and thank you to the person that directed me to the link to be able to watch what I did. At least I saw some.
I saw enough to believe that Cindy finally realizes that all this time Casey has been taking her and everyone for one big ride.
Now it is time for Casey to take the gurney ride.
 
I overslept this morning and missed about half of today's session but am trying to catch up.

From what I've gathered, Cindy is not going along with the defense and is no longer covering for Casey????

It would appear that the state is having Cindy relate the elaborate web of lies Casey told her during the 31 days. The state has already put a number of Casey's friends on the witness stand to relate Casey's whereabouts during the 31 days, which is the complete opposite of what she told her mother.

Am I correct the the state is building this in such a way that there will be no escaping all the lies Casey has told?

The jury will see that everything Casey told her mother was a lie. The jury will see how she lied to her friends about even the simplest of things - lied to one friend changing their plans for the evening because she decided to do something else..........got off the phone and told Melissa England, "I'm such a good liar."

I've noted that the state asked TL and his roommates about Casey making or receiving calls while living at the apartment...........all stated that Casey would go outside when talking on the phone. It will be apparent to the jury that she was keeping others from hearing her lie to whomever she was talking to on the phone.
 
NoeticSoul said:
I wonder if Lippman might have filed a motion that asks the judge to prohibit any contact or attempted contact from the defense or ICA during the trial. Those two notes at the end of the day (yesterday and today) really have me thinking that's what it could be. Witness tampering?
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Whatever the Lippman's Motion was .... the Judge asked if there were any objections to it, "before he SCHEDULES it" !! So, it is something that Lippman (Cindy and George) is asking the Judge to "schedule" for them. The State has no objection to it, but the Defense sure does object. Wonder what the Judge will "schedule" for the Anthonys? The Judge cannot force the Inmate to visit with her parents in the jail video system.....
Wonder if the Anthonys are asking for the Judge to schedule an independent mental health exam of their daughter? Could the Judge do that?
 
I think JB et al on the defense team should have a pretty effective "weird shield" so they can put up with KC and her sociopathic crap LOOOOONG past the time the rest of us would be screaming for mercy. To be able to defend the indefensible (I seriously believe JB and the defense team see it this way) means to shut off your own conscience in order to do your JOB (defend KC).

This makes sense to me as an old psych RN, my daily life was dealing with personality disorders. I had to go to work, I needed to support my family, so how could I continue to do that job AND keep from strangling the patients or running screaming from the unit?

You compartmentalize. In the back of your head, you KNOW this patient is seriously WRONG, maybe even evil. Yet, it is your J-O-B to provide a service to them (in my case, a therapeutic one). You split yourself apart. Some people can't and understandably won't do it. For some reason, good or bad, I can do it. I could be kind and patient while at the same time know in my heart of hearts I was being kind and patient with someone who would rape my daughter and burn down my house if they thought it would get them what they wanted.

I never thought before this moment I could compare my job as an RN to that of a defense attorney :D but dang it, there it is :)
 
ThinkTank said:
Originally Posted by Turnadot
For the first time since the 911 call, I empathised with Cindy today. She wanted to do right by Caylee, and she did, but what seemed clear to me is that she also wanted to help her daughter. She still wanted to, even after she accepted the truth. I can certainly understand not wanting to help sink the needle in. Baez's defense strategy made helping KC impossible. Cindy looked torn apart on the stand today, and I couldn't help by cry for her.



I do not have sympathy for Cindy, and did not want to cry with her today ... but I did.
At the same time though, I thought she was overacting the tears a bit when she looked at Caylee's bed and Caylee's playhouse and sand box and toys ... it's not like she hasn't seen all of these things, up close and personal EVERY DAY of her life since June 16th ... it's not like she was just seeing these things that remind her of Caylee for the first time in a long time .... does she cry like she did on the stand EVERY DAY at home when she sees Caylee's things???? Just sayin ....

oh, and when she asked the Judge if they would remove the photo of Caylee on the monitor because she would get upset when she looked at it and didn't want to cry .... that was a bit much IMO. She has photos of Caylee allll over her home that she sees every day!!!! George took a small photo of Caylee to the witness stand with him the first day he testified.
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I disagree because seeing Caylee's photos and her things in her own home is not the same as seeing them today in court as she's helping the state of Florida convict her daughter for murdering her granddaughter, and then ultimately sending her to death row. What I saw from Cindy today was genuine. JMHO.
 
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Look at that snarl!
 
ThinkTank said:
Originally Posted by Turnadot
For the first time since the 911 call, I empathised with Cindy today. She wanted to do right by Caylee, and she did, but what seemed clear to me is that she also wanted to help her daughter. She still wanted to, even after she accepted the truth. I can certainly understand not wanting to help sink the needle in. Baez's defense strategy made helping KC impossible. Cindy looked torn apart on the stand today, and I couldn't help by cry for her.



I do not have sympathy for Cindy, and did not want to cry with her today ... but I did.
At the same time though, I thought she was overacting the tears a bit when she looked at Caylee's bed and Caylee's playhouse and sand box and toys ... it's not like she hasn't seen all of these things, up close and personal EVERY DAY of her life since June 16th ... it's not like she was just seeing these things that remind her of Caylee for the first time in a long time .... does she cry like she did on the stand EVERY DAY at home when she sees Caylee's things???? Just sayin ....

oh, and when she asked the Judge if they would remove the photo of Caylee on the monitor because she would get upset when she looked at it and didn't want to cry .... that was a bit much IMO. She has photos of Caylee allll over her home that she sees every day!!!! George took a small photo of Caylee to the witness stand with him the first day he testified.
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Agree with ya, except I didn't cry for CA nor extend sympathy. Linda and Littman prepared her very well, although CA brought out some of her old self a few times. She slipped up a few times but because the jury knows nothing of her vindictive, hateful lies and actions she has told and done in the past three years, the jury wil see only how she testified as a broken grandmother.
 
ThinkTank said:
Originally Posted by Turnadot
For the first time since the 911 call, I empathised with Cindy today. She wanted to do right by Caylee, and she did, but what seemed clear to me is that she also wanted to help her daughter. She still wanted to, even after she accepted the truth. I can certainly understand not wanting to help sink the needle in. Baez's defense strategy made helping KC impossible. Cindy looked torn apart on the stand today, and I couldn't help by cry for her.



I do not have sympathy for Cindy, and did not want to cry with her today ... but I did.
At the same time though, I thought she was overacting the tears a bit when she looked at Caylee's bed and Caylee's playhouse and sand box and toys ... it's not like she hasn't seen all of these things, up close and personal EVERY DAY of her life since June 16th ... it's not like she was just seeing these things that remind her of Caylee for the first time in a long time .... does she cry like she did on the stand EVERY DAY at home when she sees Caylee's things???? Just sayin ....

oh, and when she asked the Judge if they would remove the photo of Caylee on the monitor because she would get upset when she looked at it and didn't want to cry .... that was a bit much IMO. She has photos of Caylee allll over her home that she sees every day!!!! George took a small photo of Caylee to the witness stand with him the first day he testified.
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I really think the combination of facing KC in court and testifying against her, along with the photo exhibits just did her in. :cow:
 
tlcox said:
per Amster above: ICA worked for Universal after Caylee was born? CA is adamant that she did

mine:
in testimony today CA is adamant that ICA reported to her that she was working for Universal after the birth of Caylee.

these are two very different sentences with two very different meanings.
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I heard LDB ask her if she thought ICA was working there was because of the lanyard and CA saying, no, she did work there. Gah! I'm confusing myself! Nevermind....:confused:
 
Stella5 said:
I disagree because seeing Caylee's photos and her things in her own home is not the same as seeing them today in court as she's helping the state of Florida convict her daughter for murdering her granddaughter, and then ultimately sending her to death row. What I saw from Cindy today was genuine. JMHO.
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I agree...she reacted as a grieving grandmother who is dealing with the loss on a daily basis. Anything and everything renews the pain and grief.
 
chckmate22 said:
IMO the biggest revelation from CA testimony is -- on June 16th the flurry of phone calls CA received at work from ICA - was ICA looking for a sitter - and one of the only few times CA said "NO" - ICA gave CA the ultimate punishment for that ...and CA will have to live with that for the rest of her life
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I agree. I don't think CA would have told that if it wasn't true. Sounds like KC couldn't find a sitter so she taped Caylee up and threw her in the trunk. Many posters have speculated that this is what took place. WOW Hearing CA confirm that gives me chills. I understand the DP charge now. How is the DT going to explain KC asking CA to babysit when she had supposedly just drown?
 
Is it known from Ca's testimony today when she heard the defense's statement that Caylee drowned?
 
Notice how low Casey's chair is compared to the others at the defense table. I believe it is to make her appear smaller than she already is!!! Another tactic.
 
There was a hearing not long ago wherein Baez asked George if he would be willing to do ANYthing in order to save/protect Casey, up to and including lying on the stand, or even not attending a court hearing even under subpoena.

George replied that he would indeed do anything, including lying under oath or not attending a hearing.

My thinking is that ICA believed with all her (vacant) heart that George was going to get up on the stand and do precisely what he had told Baez he would do--lie for his daughter.

What ICA didn't know, or maybe she did--who knows?--was that the information in the psych reports was going to come out before trial and totally rock George and Cindy's worlds.

As I recall, Jeff Ashton was the one who conducted the depos of the 2 psych doctors. I am sure that he required both doctors to provide copies of their reports for the depositions. I would lay money that Ashton contacted Mr. Lippman and informed him of what those documents/reports stated. Mr. Lippman then informed George and Cindy, with ICA none the wiser--she still believed that her parents would stand up and lie for her, just as they have done for the past 3 years.

She should have stopped with all of the lying before she talked with those 2 psych doctors.

In stating whatever it was she said to them she, in effect, signed her own death warrant.
 
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