2015.08.27 Curtis Wayne Wright: Charged with Murder in the 2nd Degree

[LaLaw2000]

Catching up this morning and my head is spinning with all this new information concerning CWW! Throughout all of this MS remained best buds with CWW and even brought him into Dr. Sievers and his children's lives. TS's sister even hugged this despicable person at her sister's funeral! She probably has chills thinking about that now. GB her.

 

[SeesSeas]

I have followed other cases with search warrants, The people merely leave the home. They are not handcuffed

Some legal insight regarding handcuffing owner or occupant of house when search warrant is executed; and detention vs arrest of those handcuffed during search warrant execution:

Execution of Warrants.—The Fourth Amendment
http://law.justia.com/constitution/us/amendment-04/11-execution-of-warrants.html
. . . in Michigan v. Summers,[SUP]174[/SUP] the Court held that officers arriving to execute a warrant for the search of a house could detain, without being required to articulate any reasonable basis and necessarily therefore without probable cause, the owner or occupant of the house, whom they encountered on the front porch leaving the premises. The Court determined that such a detention, which was "substantially less intrusive" than an arrest, was justified because of the law enforcement interests in minimizing the risk of harm to officers, facilitating entry and conduct of the search, and preventing flight in the event incriminating evidence is found.[SUP]175[/SUP] For the same reasons, officers may use “reasonable force,” including handcuffs, to effectuate a detention.[SUP]5[/SUP]

 

[Dmacky]

Some legal insight regarding handcuffing owner or occupant of house when search warrant is executed; and detention vs arrest of those handcuffed during search warrant execution:

Execution of Warrants.—The Fourth Amendment
http://law.justia.com/constitution/us/amendment-04/11-execution-of-warrants.html
. . . in Michigan v. Summers,[SUP]174[/SUP] the Court held that officers arriving to execute a warrant for the search of a house could detain, without being required to articulate any reasonable basis and necessarily therefore without probable cause, the owner or occupant of the house, whom they encountered on the front porch leaving the premises. The Court determined that such a detention, which was "substantially less intrusive" than an arrest, was justified because of the law enforcement interests in minimizing the risk of harm to officers, facilitating entry and conduct of the search, and preventing flight in the event incriminating evidence is found.[SUP]175[/SUP] For the same reasons, officers may use “reasonable force,” including handcuffs, to effectuate a detention.[SUP]5[/SUP]

Thank you SeesSeas :smile:

 

[human]

So the officers felt a lot of risks with the two of them?

 

[creepingskills]

This has probably already been discussed. If so, I apologize in advance.

I think the "warrant" LE was waiting for was actually a search warrant for their house. It seems reasonable to me that they would handcuff all occupants of said house/home while the search is being performed. IMO They took them to be interviewed SEPARATELY while the search was going on. After they were finished with the search and interview they were released. Also, just my opinion ~ they were never really both "officially arrested" at all, the first time.

They needed the evidence they had collected from their house to "officially" arrest CWW.

IMO, on July 12 a SWAT team executed a search warrant at CWW's trailer. LE likely intended to find something during the search that would support probable cause to arrest, so they were probably waiting on an arrest warrant.

I have followed other cases with search warrants, The people merely leave the home. They are not handcuffed

It all depends on the circumstances, how to ensure the preservation of potential evidence and officer safety. Here, because they used a SWAT team to execute the search I feel confident saying LE took extra safety precautions for a reason; CWW's criminal history, potential for violence. I'm sure they were worried if they simply asked CWW to leave the home, he'd 1. flee 2. destroy evidence not in the trailer 3. kill himself or others. Also, given CWW's background, who is to say he wouldn't go to a friend or family's home and remotely destroy evidence.

I wouldn't be surprised if they used a "flash bang" instead of knocking on CWW's door. Let's hope that CWW experienced a mere fraction of the terror TS experienced on June 29.

"The flash bang creates a diversion by emitting a loud bang and a flash of fight," said Sgt. Don Brown, who is the assistant commander of the DeKalb County SWAT team. Only SWAT officers who are trained and certified to use flash bangs are allowed to deploy them. The bang, flash and the smoke give SWAT officers enough distraction and cover to safely make their move. "If you didn't have this type of device, this diversionary type of device, you are risking - you are allowing the subject to be somewhat ready for your approach," Brown said.
http://www.cbs46.com/story/25696349...t-demonstrate-flash-bang-device#ixzz3ldifoVNk

 

[creepingskills]

So the officers felt a lot of risks with the two of them?

Yes. They could have suspected a meth lab, a potential hostage situation, suicide by cop scenario. The harm caused by detaining the subjects of a search is relatively low compared to not cuffing them, and potentially letting the situation escalate. CWW doesn't have much to lose, IMO.

ETA: "requests for SWAT teams come when officers working a case express concerns about public safety based on past experiences at an address or with people there, or when police have "intel that indicates there's a possible connection to weapons." The district patrol lieutenant then makes a case to the SWAT team commander. "It's part of a tool in our tool box when we feel it's appropriate," Vettel said. http://www.inforum.com/news/3738441...e-search-warrants-served-fargo-home-two-years

 

[concernedmother]

IF CWW did get away with murder years ago, wouldn't he be a good choice for his bf to pick in he wanted his wife murdered? jmo

 

[creepingskills]

IF CWW did get away with murder years ago, wouldn't he be a good choice for his bf to pick in he wanted his wife murdered? jmo

My thoughts exactly. Proven hit man!

 

[Scout]

This has probably already been discussed. If so, I apologize in advance.

I think the "warrant" LE was waiting for was actually a search warrant for their house. It seems reasonable to me that they would handcuff all occupants of said house/home while the search is being performed. IMO They took them to be interviewed SEPARATELY while the search was going on. After they were finished with the search and interview they were released. Also, just my opinion ~ they were never really both "officially arrested" at all, the first time.

They needed the evidence they had collected from their house to "officially" arrest CWW.

Handcuffing the occupants of a residence in order to search it, barring extenuating circumstances, would be a violation of their rights. I'm sure they were detained for questioning and then when an arrest warrant was not issued, for whatever reason, they had to be released. We don't know why the arrest warrant was not issued. Could be that the judge or magistrate refused to sign the warrant, or that investigators elected not to pursue it because they weren't ready to disclose the evidence necessary for probable cause. Or possibly they thought they could gain more at that point by CWW being free.

 

[FightTheOstrich]

So CWW is potentially pretty good at making people disappear. This time he doesn't make the victim disappear and really Florida is a great place to do that. Alligator Alley is just around the corner. Of course it's a lot more difficult to collect on a life insurance policy when someone just vanishes.

On another note, assuming these boys were running drugs, through known drug corridors, driving a minivan potentially registered to a doctor in FL or the house husband of a doctor is a great cover. Especially if MS also took his daughters and perhaps even his mother along for the ride.

 

[Mountaingazer]

IMO, on July 12 a SWAT team executed a search warrant at CWW's trailer. LE likely intended to find something during the search that would support probable cause to arrest, so they were probably waiting on an arrest warrant.



It all depends on the circumstances, how to ensure the preservation of potential evidence and officer safety. Here, because they used a SWAT team to execute the search I feel confident saying LE took extra safety precautions for a reason; CWW's criminal history, potential for violence. I'm sure they were worried if they simply asked CWW to leave the home, he'd 1. flee 2. destroy evidence not in the trailer 3. kill himself or others. Also, given CWW's background, who is to say he wouldn't go to a friend or family's home and remotely destroy evidence.

I wouldn't be surprised if they used a "flash bang" instead of knocking on CWW's door. Let's hope that CWW experienced a mere fraction of the terror TS experienced on June 29.

"The flash bang creates a diversion by emitting a loud bang and a flash of fight," said Sgt. Don Brown, who is the assistant commander of the DeKalb County SWAT team. Only SWAT officers who are trained and certified to use flash bangs are allowed to deploy them. The bang, flash and the smoke give SWAT officers enough distraction and cover to safely make their move. "If you didn't have this type of device, this diversionary type of device, you are risking - you are allowing the subject to be somewhat ready for your approach," Brown said.
http://www.cbs46.com/story/25696349...t-demonstrate-flash-bang-device#ixzz3ldifoVNk

Doesn't his wife have a child? I hope he/she wasn't home

 

[debbiegarcia36]

IMO, on July 12 a SWAT team executed a search warrant at CWW's trailer. LE likely intended to find something during the search that would support probable cause to arrest, so they were probably waiting on an arrest warrant.



It all depends on the circumstances, how to ensure the preservation of potential evidence and officer safety. Here, because they used a SWAT team to execute the search I feel confident saying LE took extra safety precautions for a reason; CWW's criminal history, potential for violence. I'm sure they were worried if they simply asked CWW to leave the home, he'd 1. flee 2. destroy evidence not in the trailer 3. kill himself or others. Also, given CWW's background, who is to say he wouldn't go to a friend or family's home and remotely destroy evidence.

I wouldn't be surprised if they used a "flash bang" instead of knocking on CWW's door. Let's hope that CWW experienced a mere fraction of the terror TS experienced on June 29.

"The flash bang creates a diversion by emitting a loud bang and a flash of fight," said Sgt. Don Brown, who is the assistant commander of the DeKalb County SWAT team. Only SWAT officers who are trained and certified to use flash bangs are allowed to deploy them. The bang, flash and the smoke give SWAT officers enough distraction and cover to safely make their move. "If you didn't have this type of device, this diversionary type of device, you are risking - you are allowing the subject to be somewhat ready for your approach," Brown said.
http://www.cbs46.com/story/25696349...t-demonstrate-flash-bang-device#ixzz3ldifoVNk

Great info. Thanks!

 

[AlwaysShocked]

So CWW is potentially pretty good at making people disappear. This time he doesn't make the victim disappear and really Florida is a great place to do that. Alligator Alley is just around the corner. Of course it's a lot more difficult to collect on a life insurance policy when someone just vanishes.

On another note, assuming these boys were running drugs, through known drug corridors, driving a minivan potentially registered to a doctor in FL or the house husband of a doctor is a great cover. Especially if MS also took his daughters and perhaps even his mother along for the ride.

I don't think they were "running drugs" in the manner of obtaining cocaine or marijuana from outside sources - Mexican or Colombian drug cartels. My theory is they were using Teresa's medical practice to obtain prescription opioids to sell on the black market and Teresa discovered what was going on. I think they ordered opioids through the medical practice but had them delivered somewhere that CWW could obtain and distribute them.

I think LE will be looking very carefully at anyone and everyone who has been busted for opioid possession in the area where CWW lives. If this is what has been going on, LE will eventually arrest a street dealer or two in that area and persuade them to turn on CWW. But this could take some time. In the meanwhile, they have CWW on the murder charge.

If the new wife of CWW has been involved, she'll be going down too.

 

[Chelly]

I don't think they were "running drugs" in the manner of obtaining cocaine or marijuana from outside sources - Mexican or Colombian drug cartels. My theory is they were using Teresa's medical practice to obtain prescription opioids to sell on the black market and Teresa discovered what was going on. I think they ordered opioids through the medical practice but had them delivered somewhere that CWW could obtain and distribute them.

I think LE will be looking very carefully at anyone and everyone who has been busted for opioid possession in the area where CWW lives. If this is what has been going on, LE will eventually arrest a street dealer or two in that area and persuade them to turn on CWW. But this could take some time. In the meanwhile, they have CWW on the murder charge.

If the new wife of CWW has been involved, she'll be going down too.

BBM
LE can easily determine this through The Practice's pharmaceutical supplier. However I believe pharmaceutical vendors have checks in place that pick up unusual activity and send out red flags. Easier said than done for the medical practice to order its pharmaceutical supplier to send out large quantities of opioids to location out of state.

 

[FightTheOstrich]

I don't think they were "running drugs" in the manner of obtaining cocaine or marijuana from outside sources - Mexican or Colombian drug cartels. My theory is they were using Teresa's medical practice to obtain prescription opioids to sell on the black market and Teresa discovered what was going on. I think they ordered opioids through the medical practice but had them delivered somewhere that CWW could obtain and distribute them.

I think LE will be looking very carefully at anyone and everyone who has been busted for opioid possession in the area where CWW lives. If this is what has been going on, LE will eventually arrest a street dealer or two in that area and persuade them to turn on CWW. But this could take some time. In the meanwhile, they have CWW on the murder charge.

If the new wife of CWW has been involved, she'll be going down too.

If anything I think CWW was still involved in meth.

I'm not familiar with Florida's prescription drug monitoring program E-FORCSE but I am familiar with programs in other states. It's pretty difficult to fly under the radar today with the amount of electronic monitoring by the state. CWW and company have already proven that they just aren't that savvy. When the doctor is not involved in the scam it's really difficult to pull off. And the employees who have stolen the doctor's Rx pad always get caught, always. When the unsuspecting doctor finds out, LE is already involved.

 

[SeesSeas]

If anything I think CWW was still involved in meth.

I'm not familiar with Florida's prescription drug monitoring program E-FORCSE but I am familiar with programs in other states. It's pretty difficult to fly under the radar today with the amount of electronic monitoring by the state. CWW and company have already proven that they just aren't that savvy. When the doctor is not involved in the scam it's really difficult to pull off. And the employees who have stolen the doctor's Rx pad always get caught, always. When the unsuspecting doctor finds out, LE is already involved.

^^^ E-FORCSE

http://www.floridahealth.gov/statistics-and-data/e-forcse/
Welcome to E-FORCSE®, Florida's Prescription Drug Monitoring Program

http://www.fsipp.org/pdf/rules-regulations/EFORCSE-PDMP-Oct2011.pdf
E-FORCSE, Florida's Prescription Drug Monitoring Program is pleased to announce that on October 1, 2011, prescribers and dispensers may begin requesting access to the FL RxSentry database.
On October 17, prescribers and dispensers may begin logging on to the FL RxSentry database to request patient advisory reports (PARs). A PAR is a reporting of a specific patient's controlled substance prescription history that is provided by the FL RxSentry database. PARs are for informational purposes only and imposes no obligations of any nature or any legal duty on a prescriber, dispenser, pharmacy, or patient. PARs are not subject to discovery or introduction into evidence in any civil or administrative action against a prescriber, dispenser, pharmacy, or patient arising out of matters that are the subject of the report.

 

[Lilibet]

I really believe CWW was involved in drug trafficking. I wouldn't be surprised if he had branched out from meth and was also selling prescription drugs and possibly heroin too. Mexican cartels are big in meth and heroin in MO, so it's hard to know if CWW could get involved with them, but he may still be cooking meth and dealing heroin on a smaller scale. So many states have cracked down on prescription pain meds, that people turn to heroin. Interestingly, Missouri is the only state without a drug monitoring program, as of 2015, so that could work to his advantage getting prescription drugs to sell, but I don't see how it would involve TS's office or provide a murder motive. I suppose he could have been selling pain meds in FL. It's all very complicated, and I don't claim to have it figured out , but I think drugs of some kind are involved. JMO

These articles provide some informative reading FWIW.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_358b8c90-29ba-5c8f-acba-2bdaf5d6523f.html

http://fox4kc.com/2015/07/20/state-lawmakers-work-to-put-missouri-drug-store-image-out-of-business/

http://www.abc17news.com/news/heroin-in-midmissouri/34382566

Large heroin bust in Lee County, FL where TS lived.
http://www.nbc-2.com/story/29396891...lienttype=generic&mobilecgbypass#.VfXqYEpHarV

 

[DexterMorgan]

But to <modsnip> is way more personal than simply getting caught thieving.

This was payback on the highest level. Jmo.

 

[FelicityLemon]

Ic-All - (I read it as I See All) Detective & Security Services. Reinforces my thoughts that MS uninvolved - this was solely CWW and his schemes. I mentioned before about the possibility of CCW being able to "spy" inside the Sievers home (and who knows who else) as well as office.

"Kitty Lifka, 85, a Missouri woman whose family employed Wright as an IT specialist, said he was a smart man who they fired."
"Kitty Lifka said that Wright was intelligent, especially when it came to computers. But problems arose...She said her son Raymond told her that he had to let Wright go due to problems."

"Lifka also knows one of the men arrested in Teresa's murder -- Curtis Wright -- or Wayne as she called him.
"I had heard some things about Wayne. They were negative. They were not nice," said Lifka."

"Her husband, Ray, and sons Raymond and Todd, were familiar with Wright through his work as an employee of Rali Enterprises and IC-All.com from 2003-09."

Just an aside: there's unlimited money for Voyeur Video of women and children performing very personal and/or intimate functions of daily life. Given that people pay to see video from hacked baby monitors, we know there's a lucrative customer base for anything. If CCW came solely to break in the home and remove hidden cameras or spyware, he could have enlisted JR as an extra driver for the long drive. 10k would be a fat enough paycheck for that and to help ensure his silence and loyalty. Murder could have been circumstantial if he didn't know TS was going to be there. OTOH, murder could have been the sole purpose for the same reason.

Sources:
http://mo.numberji.com/business/ic-all-com-3148350040-id-5378610-a94c8
http://www.news-press.com/story/new...ers-murder-envelope-suspicion-broad/72004168/
http://www.nbc-2.com/story/30013123...w-light-on-homes-security-system#.VfXtbZ0UXdQ

 

[human]

I have to out this on here even thgh I am sure it is on here earlier.

It talks about how CWW is not violent.

Oh, there was the one time he tried to run his uncle over with a car, but otherwise , no issues.

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/crim...out-together-before-killing-happened_76891245